Why Gastroenterology?

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GDen
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   Posted 1/13/2010 7:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Ever ask your gastroenterologist that? If I was in med school, I think it'd be near the bottom of my list of chosen fields, probably just above proctology! All day talking about poop, looking up bums, down pieholes, etc. (But one of the worst jobs has got to be the stool specimen tech! :P )

OTOH, I think being a gastroenterological researcher would be fascinating. I really had no idea (and still probably don't) just how complex a system it is and how much isn't understood about it.
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   Posted 1/13/2010 7:34 PM (GMT -7)   
You could say 'Why?' about any job really, but I see your point. I suspect some may be in the field because they could be like us and want to help others. Some may be fascinated like you said and I bet there is good money as well.
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   Posted 1/13/2010 7:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, according to Wikipedia the average salary for a gastroenterologist is $319,000, which seems pretty high to me. Going by BLS data, my GE probably makes low $100's in my part of the US.
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   Posted 1/13/2010 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
My 9 yr old daughter now says she wants to be a GI Doc because she wants to make other people who feel like she does feel better.  Plus, her GI Doc has colitis himself and that's how he ended up in the profession.

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       Posted 1/13/2010 8:22 PM (GMT -7)   
    We were speculating about that during one support group -- how many gastroenterologists became such because they themselves have IBD. Nobody knew for sure of any doctors, but suspected one or two. They figured doctors were probably very reluctant to advertise they have IBD.

    OTOH, one of the nurses at the group worked for a gastroenterology clinic and was drawn to it because she has UC.
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    pb4
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       Posted 1/13/2010 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
    I think besides money (which I'm sure to most docs is very important, as it is for many people) but I think each doc finds a particular part of the body more fascinating more than others do, which likely has alot to do with why a doc chooses to specialize in gastroenterology. there are more than just IBD that affects the GI tract, IBS, cancer and I'm sure likely other GI issues as well, so it probably never gets too boring for them and I bet it's even more of a challenge considereing they cannot even find a cure for us.

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    randynoguts
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       Posted 1/13/2010 9:04 PM (GMT -7)   
    way more to it than guts and butts.. liver, spleen, pancreas, stomach, esophogus, intestines, gallbladder, and all the things that go wrong with all those things.
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    GDen
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       Posted 1/13/2010 9:28 PM (GMT -7)   
    Gastroenterologists don't do surgeries do they?
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    Rider Fan
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       Posted 1/13/2010 9:58 PM (GMT -7)   
    nope
    33 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

    Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. Proferrin iron pills.

    Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.


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    lilcrohnieUK
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       Posted 1/14/2010 2:35 AM (GMT -7)   
    I remember my GI saying he always found it fascinating how no two patients were the same with IBD, maybe they all just like a challenge?!
     
     


    tez25
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       Posted 1/14/2010 2:43 AM (GMT -7)   
    i totally see your point about talking about poo all day etc, but i actually find GI stuff really interesting!  I'm a 3rd year med student and before i became ill, GI was way down on my list of choices.  Since i got ill and i started trying to work out what was wrong with me, however, i think GI is really really interesting and it is now one of my top choices for what i want to do when i graduate!  Take Crohn's for example, don't you find it really interesting that one disease can affect anywhere in the digestive tract and how 2 people with the same disease NEVER have the same experience with it.  I don't know, i've still got time to decide, but i do think i would really like to do GI and i think it would be nice for my patients to know that i have gone through/ am going through what they are going through.  And i suppose if i am flaring at the time, they'll be more sympathetic to me if i need to run out to the toilet every now and then :)

    OzCrohnie
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       Posted 1/14/2010 6:04 AM (GMT -7)   
    Not quite answering the question, but I do know that my surgeon (he's a Colorectal & General Surgeon) thinks its hilarious that he is a butt doctor...
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    Have had one, two, three, four colonoscopies.
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    MikeB
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       Posted 1/14/2010 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
    In my experience, and from talking with a few doctors through the years, most physicians choose the field they eventually train and practice in simply because that was the rotation they enjoyed most and found most stimulating during the last two clinical years of medical school. I once asked a neurologist why he chose it and he said "I like the detective work." Surgeons tend to choose surgical specialties because they enjoy the action. The internal medicine sub-specialists (GIs, cardiologists, nephrologists, allergists, etc.) tend to pick their fields because during internal medicine training one category of diseases/patients appealed to them more. If there is one group that tends to focus on specific specialties for other reasons it is probably the high number of female doctors who go into OB/GYN or mammography in radiology. Othwerwise I think it is usually "this is what interests me most." I really don't think money is a big factor . . . even most primary care docs (family medicine, internists and pediatricians) make pretty good incomes.

    MAG102886
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       Posted 1/14/2010 7:37 AM (GMT -7)   
    My gastroenterologist has Crohns....I think that explains his choice, lol.
     
    I always said if I go into the medical field (and I want to!) that I would do something with GI. 
     
    It hits home for me obviously, and I'm sure a lot of doctors pick something that hits home for them in some way....others just fall into it.
     
     
     
    Dianogsed with Crohns: At 16 years old. 23 years old now.
    Surgeries:3 Bowel Resections, Gallbladder Removed, 3 Abscess Cleanings, Fistula Repair
    Current Meds: Methorexate, Vitamin B12 (injections), Nexium.
    Next Surgery: None.
     

    FallColors
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       Posted 1/14/2010 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
    I don't know why but thank the good Lord that they chose GI rather than something less messy! Like dermatology or podiatry (which are important too, of course, but not as nasty).
    Diagnosed with Crohn's in early 2007.  Several peri-rectal abscesses and two fistulae with setons.  Allergic to Remicade and Humira.  Currently on 6MP, and vitamins D and B-12.


    GDen
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       Posted 1/14/2010 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
    One time I was at my GI clinic and the nurse said the doctor was doing some sort of hemmie procedure, so I guess they "operate" on those, at least in a minor way. Don't think also insert setons?
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    pb4
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       Posted 1/14/2010 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   
    When I had my perianal crohn's skin tags banded because they THOUGHT I had hemmies (but were WRONG), it was a colon and rectom surgeon that did that procedure....generally in Canada for any surgeries needed (re: GI) they send you to a colon and rectom surgeon.


    :)
    bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
    omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
    probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
    vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
    Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
    I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
    I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
    ~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


    randynoguts
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       Posted 1/14/2010 3:32 PM (GMT -7)   
    yes they can do surgeries if they are also a surgeon... or at least assist.. mine have at times.. they can help with the identification of gut parts and disease if the regular surgeon aint up to speed on your specicfic problem.. you may even have a student doing your op under supervision of a credentialed surgeon.. always ask that when your signing your authorization forms..
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    FallColors
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       Posted 1/14/2010 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
    Randy, I'm not sure I want a surgeon that needs a GI to identifiy parts.  "And that there is the stomach, and that pink snakey thing is the intestine...."  Actually, my first general surgeon needed that level of help!  Ouch!!  tongue
    Diagnosed with Crohn's in early 2007.  Several peri-rectal abscesses and two fistulae with setons.  Allergic to Remicade and Humira.  Currently on 6MP, and vitamins D and B-12.


    jpnutritionfirst
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       Posted 1/14/2010 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
    I'm a 4th year medical student, and I want to go into GI . . . for obvious reasons. I definitely advertise that I have crohn's . . . wouldnt you want to go to GI doc that has crohn's??? Of course! And how about a GI who believes in diet as well?? That's me!
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