What is having an obstruction like?

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
29 posts in this thread.
Viewing Page :
 1  2 
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> ]

vid53
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2006
Total Posts : 117
   Posted 1/23/2010 2:55 PM (GMT -7)   
What happens when you have an obstruction? Do you feel fuller faster while eating?

pimfram
Veteran Member


Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 506
   Posted 1/23/2010 3:24 PM (GMT -7)   
My experience is:

Little to no hunger
Bloating
Nausea
Vomiting

Edit: I forgot about pain. Pretty much the same as what Zanne said.
Diagnosed with CD July 2007
Currently on Remicade, Imuran, probiotics, folic acid, multivitamin.
Resection December 2009

Amor fati - Nietzsche

Post Edited (pimfram) : 1/23/2010 6:40:45 PM (GMT-7)


Zanne
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 3763
   Posted 1/23/2010 3:36 PM (GMT -7)   
If its a partial obstruction, you might feel fuller faster, have bloating, nausea.... But a complete obstruction can be life threatening, can happen suddenly or over time. It can come on just like a partial obstruction but with much more pain and eventual vomiting. Lack of any bowel sounds or movements is one sign along with a lot of bloating, much more than just a bad CD day for me. The pain is similar to a labor pain. It comes in waves. If you think you are having a blockage, you need to call your doctor or go to the ER. Unless you know what you are dealing with it isn't something to be messed with. Are you having symptoms, or just looking for info?
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


NiceCupOfTea
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 8546
   Posted 1/23/2010 9:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry, I hope this isn't barging in. Feel free to move the post if it is...

One night in December of last year, I had what I thought was an obstruction. Firstly I would like to know if this *sounds* like an obstruction from these symptoms. My abdomen was bloated -- I mean really badly, horribly bloated. I had a feeling of unrelenting, strong pressure at a point somewhere just above and to the left of the belly button -- it was the sort of pressure which *felt* like it ought to be relieved at any moment with a gurgling sound of something shifting and moving, but wasn't. No bowel sounds. I did feel a bit sick but more memorable to me was an overwhelming feeling of wanting to burp but not being able to do so. Oh yeah - and pain. Waves of pain bad enough to make me double over with it about once every 10 minutes or so. No vomiting.

By next day the pressure feeling had gone, but I was still feeling pretty bloated and, if memory serves, passed some gas but very little stool. Next day I went something like 3 times in a row and felt a much greater sense of relief than normal after going to the toilet. I had the same symptoms come back one more time, but they didn't last as long: about two hours, then things started moving and gurgling along in my guts again.

Secondly, I would like to know at what point an obstruction becomes a medical emergency. The "life threatening" aspect worries me a tad :-/ Is it when you start vomiting that it's serious?

Thanks in advance. I'll make an intro thread tomorrow (not that there's that much to tell - my Crohn's has been tame compared to many) but bed time calls. Would rather post now, at the risk of waffling a bit, 'cos if I leave it to tomorrow I might not do it.

Angela N
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2006
Total Posts : 82
   Posted 1/23/2010 10:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I had a blockage in my small intestine last Feb. My pain started in about October. It would come and go every few days. I havn't had any pain in about 18 years...Finally I went to my doctor and I had to have major surgery. What I had was pain on the right side, fever - 103 off and on, and I was never hungry. That was my symptoms. Since my surgery I have been fine. I have diareaha (sp) off and on...I havn't had any pain though..Hope you get to feeling better....

Nanners
Elite Member


Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 14995
   Posted 1/24/2010 8:20 AM (GMT -7)   
This has been my experience with blockages. I cannot move air or stool out at all, I am extremely bloated with squealing belly noises, and I have pains that come in waves much like labor pains. Then the nausea and vomiting start. For me with obstruction pain there is NO other option for me but to go to the ER as the pain is unbearable. When I vomit it is usually green bile and nothing more. Hope that helps.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

artist guy
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 1373
   Posted 1/24/2010 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I had one major obstuction that had to be surgically removed it was life threatening, the I was ok for 6 years then where 8ft were removed at that resection I started to flare there i get what I call gas blockages, lasts 2 to 4 hrs untill gas movesw then I'm ok. 1989 I had that area cut out again due to stricturing. good for 5 or 6 years now that same section is flareing nd i get gas blockages same as above lasts2 to4 hrs depends on how bad sometimes I have to take vicodon for the pain, try to control all gas blockage with diet
cd since 1970 4 surgeries


total obstuction is the worst pain I have ever experienced, LIFE THREATENING TO BO SURE
artist guy

Post Edited (artist guy) : 1/29/2010 12:31:42 PM (GMT-7)


dunny2
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jan 2007
Total Posts : 3200
   Posted 1/24/2010 11:37 AM (GMT -7)   
My obstructions are as described above, plus vomiting fecal fluid. There is no indecision at this point, you know you're
really sick. It is the most horrifying stinky thing that's ever happened to me. When it first happened to me, I didn't know
what it was, but I knew it was totally wrong, coupled with crippling pain, I couldn't wait to get to the hospital. I had a little
voice in my head telling me "Do something or you're gonna die". Not all obstructions are like this, but in general, you feel
ill enough to seek medical attention...
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and lupus.
B12 Shots bi-weekly

Laughter is the brush that sweeps the cobwebs from our hearts...


BeeSting
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 392
   Posted 1/24/2010 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I,ve had exactly the same kind of obstructions as Nanners. I have told my GP and GI about this, but they have never suggested what to do. So I've always thought that this is something I have to cope with while vomiting bile for hours. Sometimes this is going on the entire night and the next day untill the vomiting and severe pain stops. I haven't had any surgery yet, maybe I should ask my GI one more time what to do when I get this sick? Bee

Zanne
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 3763
   Posted 1/24/2010 2:23 PM (GMT -7)   
In answer to the above question, it can become life threatening because you can perforate your bowel. You can also get dehydrated very quickly if you are vomiting. The pain can be incredible and unbearable. All things that need to be handled by medical staff. I have blockages due to adhesions all too frequently. I have discussed them at length with my doctors and we have put a plan in place. As long as I can keep myself hydrated and keep the pain at a tolerable level, I can stay at home. But at the first sign of trouble, I head to the hospital. I also make sure that I am not alone, just to be on the safe side. And I have been dealing with this for years, this is not something I would recommend for anyone who is new to CD or has not discussed it with their doctors.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


stephnigel
New Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 3
   Posted 1/24/2010 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
my boyfriend has bags on i sometimes forget they are there which he says is a relief to him, i try to make him as hapy as i can but i dont fully understand what he feels and what he is going through, he is very independent and always says he is ok but this does not help me know what i am doing can someone help. he wheres an ileostomy bag xx

hld4good
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 193
   Posted 1/24/2010 3:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Prior to 1998, I had more total obstructions than I can count. My gastroenterologist would ask me 2 questions. Are you bringing up bile? Do you feel relief after vomiting, but a few minutes later your stomach refills and you vomit again? If the answers were "yes" he said "pack your toothbrush and get to the ER." I was met at the door and admitted on the run. Anti-nausea meds and pain meds settle things down long enough to get x-rays and blood draws. Now, a partial obstruction may give you pain and nausea but resolves itself before vomiting. Nevertheless, it is something to watch.
58 years old;
Crohn's since age 21
3 bowel resections, 1980,88,95
1 fistula repair, 2005
probiotic
digestive enzymes
L-glutamine powder 3 times a day
sublingual B-12 and B complex
2 T. cod liver oil
2 tsp. tart cherry juice concentrate
Multiple vitamin, 2,500mg vit. C, 1,000mg calcium mag.


CrohnnieMan
Regular Member


Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 190
   Posted 1/24/2010 3:21 PM (GMT -7)   
From what I've read I may have had partial obstructions in the past, but never had the urge to vomit. I would have unbearable pains (in waves) and was the worst pain I've experienced. When this has happened to me the pain would go away and I would pass gas. Sometimes the pain would be severe then I would have D real bad and be OK.

I explained this to my doctor and he didn't seem to think much of it.
500 mg of Pentasa 4 times a day, 1 Florastor 2 times a day, 2 mg LDN at bed time, 1400 IU Vitamin D3

Prior medication until LDN:100 mg Imuran a day - GI wanted 150 mg, but I didn't want to destroy my liver, 1 Gram of Pentasa 4 times a day, 3 mg of Entocort 3 times a day, Librax as needed

AKA:Chronnieman


vid53
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2006
Total Posts : 117
   Posted 1/24/2010 6:02 PM (GMT -7)   
At times after a big meal, i sometimes get the nausea's feeling which last for a short time.

Grandpato2
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 681
   Posted 1/24/2010 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I also agree that vomiting is where I have to draw the line. For me If I vomit 1 or 2 times quickly and then no more it means my blockage is clearing, although the pain my contiune for hours more. If I continue to vomit I'm in real trouble and need to get to emergency quickly.
Male with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003.Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control.5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


NiceCupOfTea
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 8546
   Posted 1/24/2010 6:58 PM (GMT -7)   
The pains I had were pretty excruciating, but not intolerable: especially as they weren't constant, but only came once every 10 minutes or so. But the general rule of thumb seems to be: vomiting = seek medical attention. Still not even sure if it was a proper blockage I had, really. Or maybe it was a gas blockage, as artist guy mentioned...

Thanks folks.

Becky77
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2005
Total Posts : 1768
   Posted 1/29/2010 12:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a strange question. I've had too many obstructions to count, and today I was talking to my sister, who said labor was the worst pain there ever was and basically anyone who hasn't had a baby doesn't know the worst pain there is. I haven't had kids, but told her that the pain associated with obstructions was compared to that of labor because of how it comes in waves and gradually gets worse.

Can any of you mommies out there tell me...is an obstruction about the same amount and intensity of pain as childbirth?

I ask not because I want to tell her I understand childbirth, but she minimizes what I go through with crohn's and her response this morning of "well at least when you're in pain all you need is pain medicine" really made me mad. She doesn't ever see me at my worst, so I think she sees the pain I deal with during obstructions as minimal. My parents are usually the ones with me when I'm near tears in the ER just praying for pain medicine to take the edge off.
Becky

31 yr old female-dx with Crohn's in '97 after emergency resection and appendectomy, 2nd resection '05, Bilateral pulmonary emboli 10/09
Currently on Humira, Omeprazole, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D, sublingual B12, Coumadin


Nanners
Elite Member


Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 14995
   Posted 1/29/2010 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I think obstruction pain is worse myself and I had 2 kids naturally and one c-section. For me it feels like someone takes a dropper of acid and drops one drop of acid into my gut and then it just spreads the pain out from there. I actually say my obstructions come in waves much like labor pains. What your sister is not understanding is that pain meds will make things a little more comfortable for you, but you don't even get the joy of a new baby with your obstructions. Not all cases, but most wind up having to have emergency surgery.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

Nanners
Elite Member


Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 14995
   Posted 1/29/2010 1:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh and for those thinking they can wait till they throw up, not a good idea. Just like Zanne said you could perforate. Most times when I had my obstructions, I didn't start throwing up until I had been in the ER for a bit.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

NiceCupOfTea
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 8546
   Posted 1/29/2010 1:41 PM (GMT -7)   
As bad as my pain was that night, I don't think it was that bad. Maybe about 8/10 on a pain scale...

Anyway, your sister should understand that childbirth isn't the only/worst pain the world. But if she persists in minimising your Crohn's, I would stop talking to her about it. She may be one of those people who doesn't want to concede a millimeter.

BeeSting
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 392
   Posted 1/29/2010 2:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I am learning SO much from you guys here, and I am so thankful, and I now know what I'm NOT going to do anymore. I will not stay at home to cope with this myself.

I have thought that I have always had partial obstructions, but now I understand this is not the case. When I get sick I have severe obstructions, with an almost unbearable pain. I have also avoided taking any pain meds, so I have been suffering in agony during all the hours I have been in my bed, vomiting for 10 - 12 hours. The last time I had an obstruction it started in the afternoon and stopped in the afternoon the day after. For 24 hours!!! Have never been this sick.

I also know that this starts if I have been eating something that is too hard on the intestines. I guess that there's an increased inflammation going on that leads to narrowings. If I am not inflamed, I can eat the same food without reacting. One of the first signs that I use to have is having no bms that day. At that moment I've seen this I should avoid eating.

Thank you all for super advices! :-)/Bee

artist guy
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 1373
   Posted 1/29/2010 3:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I totally agree with what suzanne says, an obstruction can cause our small bowel to perforate, and bile would poison your system. by the time I spent my year in an out of hospital's 3 surgeries, I was so heavilly addicted to pain med's that I had to deal with that issue. the height of my bowel obstuction only demoral would help, every 3 hr's. I was a hospital junkie, now I try to avoid pain med's because they are for me terribally constipating. if I have a bad flare that I need my pain med's for I know it takes me 2 day's for my bowels to work normally. for me normal is 3-4 times in a.m.

artist guy


Grandpato2
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 681
   Posted 1/29/2010 9:23 PM (GMT -7)   
scoolPersonally I'd guess I've had over 100 partial obstructions with out any perforation. My GI knows my history and has never mentioned them to me. She also knows with the state of health care here Surrey B.C. I'd have to sit in emergency in chairs for a minimum of 4-6 hours while enduring all this pain which will actually make it worse because I'm not lying down. I've actually had to sit for 10 hours once. She's told me to use my judgement especially if something different happens as to whether I stay at home or go to emergency.
Nanners if I had a child for every obstruction :0!!!!!
Artist Guy, Please look up the definitions of addiction and dependancy 2 very different things! Here's a link that does a great job of discussing opioids and addiction,dependancy and tolerance.:-)


Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.

Post Edited (Grandpato2) : 1/29/2010 9:27:40 PM (GMT-7)


Grandpato2
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 681
   Posted 1/29/2010 9:33 PM (GMT -7)   
scoolBy the way could others answer Bar77's question re child birth pain greater or lesser than cyclical obstruction pain. I'm curious too! I've heard women say that to other men and I just smile cause I think I know how that feels too. I'm also wise enough not to say anything, just smilewink
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


Nanners
Elite Member


Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 14995
   Posted 1/30/2010 8:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Smart man Grandpato2:) I have experienced both and neither is pleasant. But as I said, at least with childbirth you have a sweet baby to show for it. All I got for my obstructions was alot of pain and a ugly scar down my middle.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
29 posts in this thread.
Viewing Page :
 1  2 
Forum Information
Currently it is Saturday, December 03, 2016 7:11 PM (GMT -7)
There are a total of 2,732,358 posts in 301,012 threads.
View Active Threads


Who's Online
This forum has 151172 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, Whydoesithurtsomuch.
303 Guest(s), 15 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
Psilociraptor, Tirzah, Susannah R., Girlie, mmmk, LG13, NiceCupOfTea, time2reclaim, Hawaii3654, poohcheez, Ggrlsav, pitmom, 614-2101-765-611, marigold33, Mister Mike


Follow HealingWell.com on Facebook  Follow HealingWell.com on Twitter  Follow HealingWell.com on Pinterest
Advertisement
Advertisement

©1996-2016 HealingWell.com LLC  All rights reserved.

Advertise | Privacy Policy & Disclaimer