trauma and crohns

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artist guy
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   Posted 1/29/2010 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a question and a theory that has been bugging me for years, since I found this format maybe I can get answers. I was a horse jockey since 1970. I had undiagnosed crohns for 6 month prior to mayor crohns where my bowel collapsed and had 8ft of diseased small bowel remove. I was good no meds, went back 1971 continued my riding career, total remission, 1988 severely broke my jaw in racing accident and had jaw surgery with 3 plates put in my jaw, still no issues with cd, 4 weeks later rebroke my jaw in yet another spill and had surgery and plates removed and my mouth wired shut, food had to be thru a straw. my cd went totally out of control, I got wires off then had to have surgery to remove 1 ft of disease same area as before, then toal remission. this past august i had my two front teeth pulled and had 6 tooth bridge on my front teeth, again total flare and had to go on imuran and pred to calm down my flare. does anybody think that could be correlation. oh yea one incident 1991 i broke my neck in yet another spill and it did flare again but not bad enough for med's. any thoughts on face, mouth, any trauma related to flare up's
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grayeyedblonde
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   Posted 1/29/2010 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Personally, for me, I have found that I seem to have the worst flares when I am going through any kind of stress/trauma in my life. Age 12-13, puberty...Dx'd with CD. Age 18, lost both parents in car accident... bad flare, ended up in hospital for a week. 2 years ago I was in a motorcycle accident, my company shut down so I lost my job and was having relationship problems to the point we split. No health insurance so I just dealt with it and ended up in the hospital having 6 ft of my small intestine removed. I have had "minor flares" in between those times which required either little or no treatment, but the worst ones were when I was dealing with other stuff mentally, emotionally, or physically.
 
I have always felt the way you have. Maybe I expect it, so it happens...?


Dx'd w/ Crohn's in 1979 at age 14, have had minor flares throughout the years, but mostly kept in remission. Bad flare 2008 but no health insurance so I dealt with it. Colonoscopy in July 2009 caused a perforated colon, emergency bowel resection. Was on Pred. Dr. wants to try Humira...
Currently just take a multivitamin, calcium, magnesium, and fish oil.


springthyme
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   Posted 1/29/2010 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey artistguy,  as you know I am not 100% sure if I am dealing with CD yet, but susspect it.  I think that severe stress of tramatic event on your body will trigger this inflammation responce.  I had a hysterectomy 2 months ago and am now suffering more than ever.  I was hoping to avoid any bad side effects from surgery, but they found me.

j_web
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   Posted 1/29/2010 10:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I think stress of any kind is the main contributor to the disease.
CD since July 2007 - prenatal vitamins + extra vit. D, vit. C and iron, fish/flax oil, probiotics

Following excellent Omega-3 diet as per James Scala's 'The New Eating Right for the Bad Gut' - got me out of a flare.


Harley Behavin
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   Posted 1/29/2010 10:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I beleive Stress and Trauma are a great reason why we get flares or other side effects from Crohn's. I never had any trouble with Peripheral Arthritis until I had surgery Dec 2009, less than five weeks ago. No CD flare up but the arthritic pain in my joints is worse than any CD flare up I've ever had. I can't even hold a Pencil!!!! I have to drink through a straw because I can't pick up a glass to take a drink, so I just lean over the glass and use my straw. Makes you feel like an invalid! I went to a Rhuematologist two days ago and he said the arthritis was from my Crohn's, for me to get with my GI doc. He gave me a Cortizone shot said it was a bandage, but I was very grateful for the bandage. Gives me the relief to be able to type this today. Sieze the moment right... I'm scared because at 45, I just went back to school to get my degree in Surgical Technology, and the thought of not being able to be in surgery and be able to pass an instrument is terrifying. I'm paying for my school with Student loans thinking I will be able to pay it back with no problem once I start working.. but what If I don't make it? Stress, yes It causes us all kinds of flare ups!

artist guy
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   Posted 1/29/2010 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
thank god, I thought i was a friek of some kind or was a sissy. thanks for info I knew I could count on you all.

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pb4
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   Posted 1/29/2010 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I've never had any kind of physical trauma like what you guys are describing...I still ended up with CD though...my oldest sister was a pedestrian and was struck by a mini-van, right in front of a hospital which is likely why she survived...she doesn't have an IBD (though my mom and I both do, mom has UC) but sis does have IBS which she had before her accident.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


Ankylos
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   Posted 1/30/2010 8:05 PM (GMT -7)   
In Crohn's "Regional Ileitis" from 1958, he describes a number of individuals whose disease followed shortly after motor vehicle trauma- most from hitting the steering wheel. Of course, before 1958, seat belts were unheard of, so abdominal trauma from motor vehicle accidents would be a fairly common thing.

Anyway- much like other components of Crohn's disease (like NSAIDs, which cause tiny leaks in the gut- the reason they work to prevent heart disease is by slowly bleeding the patient), introducing bacteria from the gut into a wound is probably how Crohn's frequently gets its start. This is probably why those who get appendectomies have a much higher rate of Crohn's disease following surgery, too.
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