can this cause a flare?

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chrissy27
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   Posted 1/30/2010 7:54 PM (GMT -7)   
My kids have been sick and i caught the dreaded stomach virus.  I didn't vomit--just nausea and stomach cramps.  Now i have bad diarrhea.  I know that it is part of the stomach virus b/c my kids have D too.  Does anyone know if having a stomach virus can cause a flare up?

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champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 1/31/2010 12:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Who knows?

For my recent flare, I would point to one of the following:

1. Swine Flu

2. Use of Toradol (contraindicated for Crohn's I found out) for migraines

3. Change of weather.

This disease is so tricky and so specific to each person ... so it is hard to say. I know that with each flare, I know how to take better care of myself and to prevent the mistakes from happening again. Yet, there is always something new to learn.

Take care of yourself and drinkl lots of fluids with electrolytcs and check in with us ... we ae here for you ..

Liz
Diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    Imuran (6MP) kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - put back on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosis hemorrhoid.
 
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 1/31/2010 1:34 AM (GMT -7)   
In essence it could cause a flare...having CD can make us more vulnerable when we get hit with gut bugs and gut bacterial infections like C-Diff...consider adding a probiotic to your regime (taking it daily and indefinitely), not saying that it will protect you from getting flu bugs but it may help some and certainly can be helpful on a daily basis of living with CD (best is to take it daily and indefinitely, flaring or not). One with a minimum of 10 billion live cultures, I also have found that the refridgerated kinds are best too.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


medchrt1
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   Posted 1/31/2010 2:06 AM (GMT -7)   
the body has already responded ,increased histamine, mabe inflammation and the liver has been sanctioned to breakdown tryglycerides to fatty acids. so that is the typical response
depending on the level of threat and your individual ability to handle it (some people may have a reaction to an allergen, beesting or food allergen for instance.
from the unwanted organism, other may have no problem with it). the extreme case is when the body produces epinephrine. an allergic reaction, etc.

thus you have already had a flare in response to the virus. The length of each of the things during the response
is important because in crohns breakdown to fatty acids seems ongoing and continually getting this mucousy response. The inflammation continues in the bowel
and the ability of the pathogen to enter more possible and now even might have some recognition uncertainties. The symptoms of the response continue.

The actual answer to the question involves the premise of the question, that is whether crohns can be made into remission. And, if the relationship to the symptoms
in crohns is analogous to the response from the virus.

They seem similar but we have trouble ending the crohns flare while the virus is supressed by normal immune response.
The distinction might be between bacteria and viruses as the medication for bacteria often antibiotic (...the saying is you cannot cure the common cold with an antibiotic).
Generally you cant kill the virus with an antibiotic, there are vaccines to slow down the virus (immunization) or antivirals. as disease in general are mostly viral.

but the question is the same: How do you know that you are/were exposed to a virus or a bacteria or something else?

nawlinscate
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   Posted 1/31/2010 11:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Having been diagnosed with this disease 11 years ago, I can assure you that absolutely ANYTHING can cause a flare--exposure to illness, changes in weather, increased stress, being rundown. Anything that puts increased pressure on your body and your immune system can send you into a flare. So could a stomach virus send you into a flare? Sure.

pb4
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   Posted 1/31/2010 1:14 PM (GMT -7)   
In the almost 20 yrs that I've had crohn's, I've had one stomach flu (pretty good eh) and it was easy for me to tell the difference, I had much more symptoms with the gut bug than with my CD, and it was gut instinct for me as well, plus it was pretty obvious when one of my kids also became ill with it.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


Grandpato2
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   Posted 1/31/2010 3:18 PM (GMT -7)   
pb4 In what store did you buy the Natures Way primadophilus reuteri? I'm having trouble finding it.
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


pb4
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   Posted 1/31/2010 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Grandpato2 I live in Canada, and buy it from a store called Sangsters, but I know it's available in some US states if that's where you live, I'm just not sure exactly which states or which store names.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


FunGuy
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   Posted 1/31/2010 5:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I have had flare that I believe were related to physical stresses as well as others related to emotional ones.
 


Nanners
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   Posted 2/1/2010 7:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Grandpato2 I live in Southern California and use Primadolphilus Reuteri. I buy mine at a local Henry's market. There in the refrigerated section.
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Nanners
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   Posted 2/1/2010 7:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Chrissy27 sorry to be a nitpicker, but could you please go into the control panel and modify your signature. It must be 10 lines or less including spaces. Thank you for your understanding.

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Gail*Nanners*
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*
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