What does it mean if my stomach swells up after eating medium sized meal????

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champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 2/6/2010 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Here I am with another post - please be patient with me! I am learning so much from this forum.  For those of you who have gotten to "know" me form my posts, I'm having my second active flare in the six years since being diagnosed with CD.  This has been the worse by far and resulted in hospitilzation last month. 
 
My question relates to how my stomach swells after I eat and doesn't go down for quite some time - maybe an hour or two or more after my meal starts digesting. My oldest son joked and asked me "So when is our baby sister due?"   My ribs even hurt and my sides become swollen and hurt too.  I swear I can feel "her leg" ha!.   This even happens, although to a lesser degree, when I drink my morning shake, mostly the feeling of fullness and discomfort.
 
So, from this forum,  I've gotten great ideas of what to eat (I'm eating low residual diet now, taking stool softerns as the prednisone has resulted in formed stools for the first time in 6 years!, and have two protein shakes with physillium fiber daily).  I've been tapering off my predinsone from 60mg and now am taking 50 mg.  B/c of the prednisone, I'm hungry all the time and can eat without having a a hunger /full gauge like I usually do ... although the basic discomfort I get with eating in general has me thinking.
 
Could the "load" that seems to sit in my stomach mean that maybe I have a narrowing in my large bowel? My large bowel, by the way "shut down" and showed up "black" on the XRay the doc took which landed me in the hospital, (in addition to my severe dehydration).  Could it be I should be taking a digestive enzyme when eating?
 
I think practiaclly, my body is telling me to eat more but smaller meals, rather than the 2 or 3 larger/medium meals I've been eating ....
 
Has anyone experienced this? Ideas?  Help?  Thanks and thanks for being so patient with all my questions as of late!!!!
44-single mom diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    6MP kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - now on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosed hemorrhoids (external as well as internal).
 
Fibromyaglia; migraines; herniated disks C5,6 and arthritis in neck; asthma; scolisis in back/arthritis.
 
 
 


Nanners
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   Posted 2/6/2010 9:04 AM (GMT -7)   
You might want to talk to your doctor about a possible bacterial overgrowth. I just finished treatment for my second bout of bacterial overgrowth. I was just like you and after I ate anything I would get really bloated and felt like I wanted to pass gas, but couldn't. I have the stricturing/scarring type of Crohns and though for sure I had another stricture. Turned out it was just bacterial overgrowth. I was treated with 10 days of Cipro and it knocked it right out. In fact like a day or two after starting the Cipro I felt sooo much better. This last time the Cipro didn't agree with me, so he switched me to 1200 mg of Xifaxan (sp?) for 10 days and I just finished my last dose this morning and feel much better.

With the bacterial overgrowth I also started taking a better probiotic. I am going to also start taking digestive enzymes as those are said to help avoid future bacterial overgrowth attacks.

Now having said all that, it could also really be a stricture going on. With you getting your disease under control with the 6mp and then stopping it could have caused any inflammation that was healed with the 6mp to create scar tissue and cause a blockage. You should always stay on maintainence meds even when feeling better. This is a chronic and incurable disease and must be treated at all times. (JMHO) I would suggest you talk to your doctor about the possibility of bacterial overgrowth, but also get some testing done to check for strictures. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Gail*Nanners*
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Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 2/6/2010 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Nanners:

Yes, in hindsight, maybe it wasn't the best idea to go off meds, but I was in remission for a few years. I felt I could keep it that way with diet alone and I was wrong. This disease is smarter than I am.

Did they say what kind of bacteria it was? I hate to take antibiotics as it gets the good bacteria out of wack. Also, I gave birth to a Group B Strep baby and know we can colonize this in our intesines as well as our uterus ... do you think there is any link to Group B Strep and Crohn's or what I'm experiencing now?

Thanks!
44-single mom diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    6MP kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - now on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosed hemorrhoids (external as well as internal).
 
Fibromyaglia; migraines; herniated disks C5,6 and arthritis in neck; asthma; scolisis in back/arthritis.
 
 
 


Nanners
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   Posted 2/6/2010 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Don't know anything about the Group B stuff, but we Crohnies tend to get bacterial overgrowth alot. I get it because I have had surgery and its pretty common thing to happen I guess. Google it and you will get more info about it, including descriptions of symptoms and causes.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

tps
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   Posted 2/6/2010 1:12 PM (GMT -7)   
hi ive had crohns for over twenty years and only in the last couple of years ive been getting the swelling after eating. i was taken into hospital three weeks ago with swelling and pain and they found that my duodenum is so badly scared that i now have to live on the liquid food elemental for the rest of my life, i dont wish to scare you but its worth getting your doctor to do a C.T scan or x-rays to check your crohns hasnt affected yours.
i have hated taking my meds over the years and have gone on and off them. if could turn back the clock i would stay on them to stop the crohns doing the damage it has, so my advise to all is keep taking the meds!

pb4
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   Posted 2/6/2010 3:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Everyone (not just IBDers) should eat smaller meals at a time....antibiotics kill off all bacteria (including good and bad) leaving your system vulnerable to bad bacterial growth, so IBDers should be taking a good probiotic daily and indefinitely (flaring or not) in order to help keep the gut flora balanced...when theneed arises for antibiotics, then you should take your probiotics at least 2 hours after you've finished taking your antibiotics for the day. Fibre supplements (which my GI told me to take daily and indefinitely) also play a key role in helping sweep the bowels of bad bacteria, not to mention it helps form stools (aids with D or C so no constipation issues) along with cutting back some daily frequency (has helped me) and drinking plenty of water daily is also key...

Since I started taking fibre supplements daily all my excessive gas cut way down to hardly any gas and my bloating is completely gone...of course initially it caused increased bloating and gas but this is normal and can happen to healthy people as well, it's just your system adjusting to it but it does pass...and the benfits completely outweigh the added discomfort.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 2/6/2010 9:37 PM (GMT -7)   
a medium sized meal is subject to interpretation. try eating smaller meals with snackes - ie eat more often throughout the day.

it could be gas. what do you eat at those meals?

try digestive enzymes.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


artist guy
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   Posted 2/6/2010 10:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with that 100% small meals throughout the day, then nothing past 8pm

artist guy


Nanners
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   Posted 2/7/2010 8:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree with the smaller meals too, because its best for me to eat 5-6 smaller meals a day vs 3 big meals a day. But I still got the bacterial overgrowth. The probiotics and digestive enzymes will help to prevent future bacterial overgrowth probs. Good luck!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

medchrt1
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   Posted 2/7/2010 9:27 AM (GMT -7)   
This can be a stricture or gas as been said.

You need to ask your doctor if , when weaning off prednisone, should you increase carb intake. Also ask at what times of the day. If you excercise do you want more glucose before the workout?
If this is not bacterial overgrowth you need to get your glucose intake back on track because you want normal insulin response back on track. prednisone although anti inflammatory, is an insulin supressant, and you want things back to normal as you wean gradually off the prednisone. when you consume glucose and it is in bloodstream, that insulin kicks in, tells the organs to pull it out to convert for normal storage.
Too much protein can be just as much a contributor to bloating.

champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 2/7/2010 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
All of your input is invaluable and give me practical means in which to deal with my current issues and talk to my doctor.

My bloating comes immediatly after I eat ... so that wouldn't necessarily be from the fiber supplement I'm taking, right? I've upped the powdered psyllium from t tsp in AM to two in PM as well ...

Thanks!
44-single mom diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    6MP kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - now on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosed hemorrhoids (external as well as internal).
 
Fibromyaglia; migraines; herniated disks C5,6 and arthritis in neck; asthma; scolisis in back/arthritis.
 
 
 


champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 2/7/2010 2:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I've also started taking BEANO before each meal and that is helping quite a bit ... masking what ever is the larger problem, but helping. I think I'm going to back off of solids for a few days and do protein/fiber shakes from rice milk and slowly introduce small bits of food at smaller meals, keeping a food diary ... why is this so hard?

And I'm so hungry on this prednisone! I'm usually not a snaker and don't over eat and keep a steady weight and I'm gaining weight and hate it. I feel yucky. Thanks for your support!
44-single mom diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    6MP kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - now on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosed hemorrhoids (external as well as internal).
 
Fibromyaglia; migraines; herniated disks C5,6 and arthritis in neck; asthma; scolisis in back/arthritis.
 
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 2/7/2010 4:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Bloating could be from just eating and/or the fibre supplements, don't add more fibre supplements too soon, wait for your system to adjust to it first...like I said, I no longer get bloated after eating/drinking since taking the fibre supplement and my system adjusted to it.

Drink enough water daily too.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 2/7/2010 7:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I think you might be right ... I should maybe ride this out to see if it is the fiber and increase my water.  I get such bad heart burn and burp so much too ... argh!  I am supposed to talk to my doctor on Monday to see if should taper my prednisone from 50 mg to 45mg .. he wants to check in every 5 day (I've been out of the hospital for 6 weeks, leaving at 60mg and have been on Imuran for 3 weeks). Do you think it wise to decrease the prednise while I'm so bloated and have abdmoninal/stomach pain/discomfort?
 
Thanks for all your help on this ... this is just so miserable!
44-single mom diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    6MP kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - now on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosed hemorrhoids (external as well as internal).
 
Fibromyaglia; migraines; herniated disks C5,6 and arthritis in neck; asthma; scolisis in back/arthritis.
 
 
 


Nanners
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   Posted 2/8/2010 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
The Prednisone can also cause GERD/Acid Reflux problems too. Maybe adding something like OTC Prilosec or Pepcid AC to your med mix until you get off the Pred will be helpful. Good luck!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease & Anxiety/Panic
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

champagnekindofgal
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   Posted 2/8/2010 7:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Talked to my GI Doc, the he thinks the gas / distention is from the increase in fiber. What scares me is that my bowel movements have increased from one on prednisone (a new recent rarity for me) to about five daily. But, I'm tapering down a bit on the fiber (not completely) until I get this under control.

Good news is that I get to go down on my pred from 50 mg to 45 mg ... yeah! Just in time as I'm developing that buffalo hump, hoping I can reduce that ...

Have added yogurt and beano to each meal and also ordered probiotics and RevitalX to support my gut ...

Thanks for all your support. Does any one every feel like a prince or princess in the pea?
44-single mom diagnosed with Crohn's 2004 via pill camera    6MP kicked into remission (along with modified diet) so went off in 2006.
 
2009/2010 acute flare and hospitalization - now on Imuran. Currently taking 55 mg prednisone.
Current problem - protruding thrombosed hemorrhoids (external as well as internal).
 
Fibromyaglia; migraines; herniated disks C5,6 and arthritis in neck; asthma; scolisis in back/arthritis.
 
 
 

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