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snohare
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   Posted 2/9/2010 5:12 PM (GMT -7)   
nono You may think this is trivial, but it is life and death to someone !

Went to put on my boots in the hallway the other day, and found the toes full of peanuts. Yep, the meeces had been stockpiling...all the way from the kitchen, through the living room, and up and into the boots. One peanut at a time (unless of course we have a particularly Herculean mouse, a particularly muscular mus musculus), a laborious task for one so small.
Well, I was inclined to let it pass. After all it was my fault for spilling the peanuts on the floor when I was hurriedly filling the bird feeder the other day - I thought I had picked them all up but obviously not. "Hey, at last I have help with the housekeeping!" I thought, as I tipped them out of my boots.
I have to admit I wasn't any too chuffed to find the last of my rare Pink Fir Apple potatoes nibbled, but again - leave them on the floor in a rural house at the tail end of a hard winter, with thousands of mouseholes all around in the garden and fields, and you can expect little else.
But today I went to feed the birds again, and found that my fat balls had been savagely attacked. It looked like a squad had been busy all night, chewing through the nylon mesh and then removing the seeds from the suet before deshelling the sunflower seeds, leaving the debris in a pile taller than a mouse. shocked On the kitchen table.
Now, I'm as caring and compassionate as the next man. If you read Sniper's threads at Christmastime and saw the dreadful poems, you will know my dilemna is a long-standing one. But I really need to do something about this. My seed potatoes, shallots, vegetable seeds, ocas, Jerusalem artichokes - all sorts of stored seed tubers and larder vegetables are at risk if the mice are now getting onto the table. And of course from the hygiene point of view...mice dribble urine everywhere that they go. eyes Not to mention, there are birds that will starve if their food keeps going.
The dog snoozes on, oblivious to a fresh source of fast food.eyes I have no cats, no catflap, and as I'm getting ready to move it wouldn't be wise to get one. I have bought a mousetrap yeah and have postioned it next to the wall where they will run...unsprung, for the moment.
But I am leaving in just a few weeks, and I really don't want to poison or kill any of my fellow residents. If only I could store my vegetables in a mouseproof container - but anything mouseproof also needs to be breathable to prevent things going mouldy. I thought I had it sussed with my wicker hamper basket, but it has mousable holes. Anything the diameter of a pencil, a mouse can get through.
Any suggestions ?

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   Posted 2/9/2010 6:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hmmm. It is possible to get traps that will catch an animal without killing it. I'm not sure if it's possible to get it in mouse-size, but you might like to find out.

That way, you could catch the mice and set them free in the woods: maybe that would set your mind at rest?

What if you wrap your storage containers in metal flywire? Can mice chew threw metal? I think they can, but you can always experiment...

My sympathies.

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   Posted 2/9/2010 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
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vietvet
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   Posted 2/9/2010 7:27 PM (GMT -7)   
what's a pencil?

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   Posted 2/10/2010 12:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Hmmmmm, see my poem was right. There is a better mouse trap for the soft hearted. Dont know if you have them there but home depot and Lowes carry them. usually plastic , they are rectangular in shape and counter balanced . you set them by placing them on the floor and lifting the door. The bait is placed in the closed end and as little mouse crawls to the bait the box tilts to the rear and the door closes. It has a small latch and Mr or Ms mouse is caught until you choose to let them go as far from the house as possible as to keep them from returning to your abode. Also we use to keep potatos in a hanging wire mesh basket in the shed . I dont know if these work but there is a small device available which when plugged into an electrical socket is said to emit a sound undetectable to the human ear yet totally unbearable to rodents. The device goes in and the mice go out. Not a bad investment for next years crop either. If you cant find them at a nearby store I am sure you can find them on the net. Meawhile put you birdfood in a tin with small holes , say ice pic size , if you worry about mold and you may also make a bag from window screen, the aluminum type for your tatters . We also use to but crackers in large tins that we punched holes in with an ice pic and stored potatoes and turnips but you have to check them as one bad tater will rust the tin. Hope this helps more than the poem.....
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   Posted 2/10/2010 6:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Sno I am a little more cold hearted than you....trap 'em and kill 'em! My house backs to a large field and the meeces come every spring. Now my stomach can't tolerate seeing a smashed mouse in the trap (my husband is responsible for the first trip into the kitchen in the morning untill all are caught). There are traps that kill but keep the corpse inside the trap. I can't remember the brand, but Lowes had them last year when I pondered them. I'm thinking about buying my neighbors a new cat....I can't own one, but theirs used to kill the mice, then take them home :-)

I had a mouse eat my favorite coulis dispenser and it was empty...that was the last of my compassion. If they are desp-a rat-e enough to eat plastic, the herd needs thinning!
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   Posted 2/10/2010 1:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Sno, we plugged all the holes with steel wool. Don't know if that's feasible since you're moving soon, but it works. No mice indoors since. We have a field right behind our house too. Good luck!

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   Posted 2/10/2010 3:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Our two cats are getting old and not doing a good job of getting the mice in the wood pile and the chipmunks in the rock wall. Hubbie says he needs a new mouser, I say we need another cat, he says two's the limit. I feel your pain, but have no solution either. Except to go with Habs trap that traps the body. I may have to go looking for those myself.
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snohare
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   Posted 2/10/2010 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
VV said...
what's a pencil?


I would explain to you how one works Dan, and how to tell if it is broken - nonobut there would be no point... eyes And if you got confused you would just say you were lead astray... yeah

Well, I have moved things around in the kitchen. There is now a veritable white Matterhorn, an Everest of chilled white goods, for the mice to climb, before they can get to my ocas. And if I can work out a better place to put my sprouting seeds and potted plant, the wicker basket will be going up on top of the fridge freezer too.
Have any of you guys heard the idea that strawberry and vanilla scents deter mice ? Supposedly Roman Senators used to scent their candles with it to keep the mice out of their bedrooms... idea Personally I think it was to cover the smell that showed there were mice...or a ruse to sell candles...something stinks about the idea !
And if the mice do get their crampons out, and manage to scale the North Face, there is a trap waiting for them... yeah skull devil wink

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   Posted 2/10/2010 7:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I noticed today that the new millers nurseries catalog has some "stuff" that is supposed to make the mice leave you home. Don't know if it works.
 


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   Posted 2/10/2010 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Sno, could you stand your table legs in large bowls of bleach?

The smell might deter them, as might the smell of vinegar.
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vietvet
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   Posted 2/10/2010 8:37 PM (GMT -7)   
i knew you woodn't erase all opportunities for me to answer. (thanks for leaving wood and eraser for me.) hey, i just click the 'print' button. whenever we see a typewriter in a movie, my wife says, "what's that thing?"

ya know, we've got a few of those roaming senators around here, too! ahh, i got a million of 'em!

i know if i suggested a claymore to you, you might rummage through the heirlooms your grandfather left behind for you to wear with your kilt. but, sniper and i have utilized a type of 'claymore' that will afford you some sleep, and you don't have to be as precise in it's use. i don't think this is the same device, however, that sniper was referring to. although, these make a noise, you don't plug them into the wall socket. smilewinkgrin

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   Posted 2/10/2010 9:40 PM (GMT -7)   

I have no mouse solution for you snohare, as we are yet to rid ourselves of 'Barney' (the kids named the pest/pests) who lives in our ceiling (the kids always complain that Barney kept them awake last nightyeah ).

And you are moving again! Didnt you just move there or have I missed something?

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   Posted 2/10/2010 9:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Odd you should mention a Claymore VV. I was about to make somewhat of the same suggestion but just slip a little C4 in the mouse diet , then when the trap slams shut on one , the whole bunch go up like a ring maiden. Alas it would not work for mice that can read . Do you remember what it said on the back of a Claymore ? DO NOT EAT .. Front side said , THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY . Very important to face them the right way , but having one for a snack ???
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   Posted 2/10/2010 11:39 PM (GMT -7)   
My Goodness!You said: " But today I went to feed the birds again, and found that my fat balls had been savagely attacked." I understand moonface is bad but wow!!!!!rolleyes


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   Posted 2/11/2010 4:05 AM (GMT -7)   
VV,,, you just dont understand sno's problem... now did not he mention about a hole the size of a pencil they can get through? using your method his hole would be much larger thus allowing larger rodents, yaks, drunken scotsmen, even the dare i say, english neighbors.

sniper, i actually remember our training in the use and care of certain materials , that a smack of a mouse trap would hardly work unless the rodent swallowed a cap as well? i may be mistaken as its been a number of years.. never got to use a real claymore but the traing ones were fun anyway. remember to always set 'em up so the pattern crosses the next ones!
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vietvet
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   Posted 2/11/2010 5:17 AM (GMT -7)   
idea grandpato, he mentioned suet a little further on, and although it was killin' me, i thought i'd better leave that one alone. congrats on finding a way to skirt banishment from the forum.

yeah, guys, i ate one of those one time......thought it was a can of caviar........no wonder i got digestive problems! to this day, every once in a while i swear i hear a 'clink', you know where.

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   Posted 2/11/2010 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Randy, your right, a good snap on C4 will not set it off, in fact you can burn it to heat C rations but if a cap was on the trap ........ VV , didn't those BB's get sorta crunchy when you dined on that mine ? You know that could cause an explosive discharge later . Grandpato , a tip of the hat to you too for your handling of the suet question. I like VV and I am sure Randy chose to avoid that one for fear of being cast out like mice . As Forest Gump would say,,," and thats all I have to say about that. "
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   Posted 2/11/2010 2:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Sno you are welcome to borrow my five foot rat snake. He adores mice . . . sends them on a one-way trip to his gullet. Just post the address and I will send him on the next Greyhound bus.

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   Posted 2/11/2010 4:29 PM (GMT -7)   
MikeB said...
I will send him on the next Greyhound bus


ideaThey have transatlantic greyhounds ? !!
eyes Mark you, if they are anything like as punctual as FirstBus in Aberdeen, the other passengers will all be eaten before he gets here. skull yeah
nono I get the funny feeling that the elephant and the Claymore have both a small side-effect that my landlord might object to. They both leave large holes in walls, in the presence of mousey triggers.
Now admittedly I am leaving in just over a month, and I do have spare plastic film left over from my DIY secondary glazing...but I think the permanent repairs might end using up all the deposit. (No, I am not referring to those deposits left by the midnight mouse marauders, nor the dog's. rolleyes)
Did Claymores really say "Do not eat" ? I can tell why. Eating C4 would probably give you an almighty headache (yes, I know, not as much as dropping the detonators in a campfire smilewinkgrin ) and yes, it would give you the runs. But hey, you military types have all got such an advantage over us civilians... trained in running fast...accustomed to sprints where if you go too slow, you may end up with a second *ssh*le...and with clothes that have brown blotches at random places. (In Britain the RAF calls soldiers "brown jobs"...after bombing runs usually, I hear wink)
As for the suet, I went into the hardware store in Ballater the other day and said immediately to the owner, "Do you have gripples?" (An obscure item used for tensioning fence wires.)
It was only when he gave me an old fashioned look over the top of his glasses and said cautiously, "Not the last time I saw the doctor" that I remembered the last time I was in I had greeted him in delight with the words, "Ah great, I see you have large fat balls !" blush
I have friends everywhere I go...until I speak. tongue
I think I will go for the C in NBC warfare, and try mopping the kitchen floor with vinegar. (I don't have enough bowls for the kitchen table legs, and there is pipework they can climb up anyway.)
I'd better start cleaning now...so that I am over the shock of doing housework and able to do it nearer the time when my tenancy finishes. (Yes, Sidney Jo, turns out it is a tad more expensive living here than I can afford. So back to the big city, if I can find somewhere that lets me keep the dog I acquired.)
And if the mice don't mind the smell of acetic acid - shakehead maybe they will wipe the floor with me.

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   Posted 2/11/2010 5:06 PM (GMT -7)   
You need a trap and release program for the mice but if it is cold outside and you have openings, they will be back soon!
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   Posted 2/11/2010 9:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Sno, it really does say that on the back, I kid you not. They are much louder than the TV can make them sound too so I dont recommend them . The steel wool in the cracks trick does work. They dont like chewing on it but I would think the spray foam called Good Stuff would plug the holes better. Perhaps a bit of both even. Sorry you have to go back to the city but tomatoes grow well in pots and so do lots of other vegies. Even potatoes if you can find a large enough pot. We use halved 50 gallon plastic drums and have good results. We pick them when they are small, new potatoes and they are good. One more suggestion about mice , would be to have the right dog,,,a rat terrier..
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   Posted 2/12/2010 3:49 AM (GMT -7)   
oh sno! here in america, we are so stupid they put warnings on clothes to not iron them while wearing! also on suppossitories that say "do not swallow"
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   Posted 2/12/2010 6:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey sno....we used the stuff sniper mentioned, Great Stuff, to fill the mouse hole in the garage. They do not like that stuff either and it stayed in place better than steel wool. Hate to admit that sniper beat me to a good idea. drat.
Oh and if you are mpping the floor to avoid the critters....diluted ammonia works well too....it even helped with an inset problem I had after a nephew brought an ant pile in the house. Not that I am recommending stinky things to rid yourself of pests....I would hate to see where that leads you boys :-)
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   Posted 2/12/2010 7:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Randynoguts said...
also on suppossitories


shocked I find that hard to swallow, Randy !

Sniper, whatever happens I will be growing in raised beds, and I do have my eye on a couple of patches of ground which are available to me. The problem is I don't know where I'll be staying, and with no car/tool storage/water/vandalproof fencing, I might be quite restricted in what I can do/carry. We don't have a product called "Good Stuff" here, we just have it in the whisky bottles ! smilewinkgrin
Habs, ammonia is a brilliant idea, I will try that. Good for reviving the mice when they faint at the sight of me doing housework... eyes yeah
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