Yeast mistery... how came?

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Djin
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   Posted 2/21/2010 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I've learned here that (maybe) yeast is not good for a Chronie. I may cause bacterial overgrowth? Is it right?
 
In the other hand, white breads is recommended as an easy digestion, non residue food.
 
Its hard to say if it "agree" with me... after all, if it DO cause bacterial overgrowth it would take some days to apear, didn't it? It could compromise my "test".
 
At last, but not the least, if live yeast DIE at 140ºF, how does it possibly cause bacterial overgrowth?? smhair
 
And chemical ferments? Are they evil like voldermort too?
 
too many questions...   Sometimes I think it would be easier to get a Phd degree!
 
Please.. any thoughts welcome.
 
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Diagnosed in nov/94 - Started with Prednisone, followed by Pentasa, entocort, flagyl, Imuran, Cipro, etc.
Blockage - First Surgery 2001 (no ressection)
Severe bleedind - 2003 - Stopped by 60mg of Prednisone
Stricture leading to a ressection in Dec/2008 - Second Surgery
Now on Remicade + 100 mg Imuran + Iron (sort of remission, not sure at all)
 


medchrt1
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   Posted 2/21/2010 1:23 PM (GMT -7)   
proper digestion of glucose in the body is glycolysis ...thus fermentation is essentially glycolysis ..the digestion of glucose inside the body see wikipedia.
yeast is used in industrial fermentation and also an ingredient in probiotics
thus there are more than one genus of yeast, candida is definitely the undesirable type.
proper digestion of glucose requires the presence of enzymes which can become depleted.
not sure about the voldermort then again i did google it and found it to be irrelevant, lol

MMMNAVY
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   Posted 2/21/2010 2:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok there is a pretty simple test to see if you have a bacterial overgrowth. It is a hydrogen breath test.
So you might want to think about taking or eatting probodics. For example some yogerts have probodics, but you can also buy them in pill form, etc.
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   Posted 2/21/2010 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   

Perhaps you have a fungal overgrowth, especially if you have ever been on antibiotics(fungus mycotoxins-poisons). They kill off the good bacteria along with the bad, allowing yeast/fungus overgrowth. There can be a fungal etiology with crohn's and colitis. Fungus is ubiquitous, can penetrate mucous membranes in colon, and can alter DNA in cells.

http://www.healthe-livingnews.com/articles/fungal_etiology_of_inflammatory_bowel_disease.html

http://www.bioactivenutrients.com/news/learn-more-fungus/110

http://www.mold-help.org/content/view/456

Yeast bothers me big time. Sugar/carbs feeds yeast so it is wise for me to limit my carbs and sugar.


Brad P
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   Posted 2/21/2010 8:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Djin said...
I've learned here that (maybe) yeast is not good for a Chronie. I may cause bacterial overgrowth? Is it right?


In the other hand, white breads is recommended as an easy digestion, non residue food.




Can anyone confirm this? Can a candida yeast infection CAUSE an overgrowth of bacteria in your bowels?? and stomach perhaps?? For weeks I've suspected I've had yeast and bacteria problems but couldn't understand how I may have both.

I've done the saliva test
http://www.stopyeast.com/saliva.html

and the results are as described there. I've also have taken antibiotics for possible overgrowth of bacteria in the bowels and it seemed to help for a time. Just to note, the yeast test I did was also prior the antibiotics and also again recently...both showed the same result so I can't blame antibiotics on possible yeast problems.
CD since Fall 1987
Small Bowel Cancer - Sept 2008
Surgery to remove tumor - Oct 1st, 2008
Chemo - Dec 2008 to May 2009
Jan 2010 - NED

Post Edited (Brad P) : 2/21/2010 8:21:02 PM (GMT-7)


hld4good
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   Posted 2/21/2010 11:27 PM (GMT -7)   
My doc confirmed candida albicans overgrowth by ordering a Complete Stool Kit. She didn't suggest the Hydrogen breath test. I don't know why. The Kit confirmed overgrowth and after 9 months on probiotics it was reduced drastically. Do a search about crohn's and candida and you'll find several good sites that explain what happens in the gut when candida takes over. Good luck!
Age 58, Crohn's since age 21
3 bowel resections, 1980,88,95
1 fistula repair, 2005
probiotic
digestive enzymes


Djin
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   Posted 2/22/2010 4:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Thankyou for the good information. I'm doing dome research in the probiotics matter, and taking little - Nutren/Yoghurt like. (just to begin)

And about the yeast present in bread/cakes (for growth of the recipe), could that be harmful? I think not, but I fear I misanderstood something.

Just trying the "there is no question too silly" statement :)))
 
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Diagnosed in nov/94 - Started with Prednisone, followed by Pentasa, entocort, flagyl, Imuran, Cipro, etc.
Blockage - First Surgery 2001 (no ressection)
Severe bleedind - 2003 - Stopped by 60mg of Prednisone
Stricture leading to a ressection in Dec/2008 - Second Surgery
Now on Remicade + 100 mg Imuran + Iron (sort of remission, not sure at all)
 

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