confused about retention enema

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Ashworthml
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   Posted 2/22/2010 2:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I was to start the predsol retention enema tonight which I did, i read the instructions and did what it said. But after I had laid still on my front for 5 minutes I had to rush to the toilet, which I did 4-5 times after using it. Retention is supposed to stay in isn't it??? I couldn't hold any bowel movements in,or atleast not after the 5 minutes, does this mean or didn't work or it did?
An enema is supposed to make you go to the toilet and flush the system so I'm really confused! Help, should I have only gone to the toilet in the morning???
The indications they give you tells you nothing about when you should have a movement.
Michelle 40 years old
Diagnosed with CD 2004 (undiagnosed correctly +- 3 years, wrongly diagnosed with IBS)
Bowel resection 2005
medication: pentasa 500mg , Co-codomol 500mg/32mg codeine
loperamide 2mg (prn - take as many as 10-20 a day)
calcium tablets, multivitamin tablets, Omega 3
Ferrous sulphate(anaemia)
levothyroxine (thyroid)
questran light (3 sachets/day), 3 monthly B12 Injections


ivy6
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   Posted 2/22/2010 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I found Predsol very hard to cope with.

One thing you might like to try, is starting with a quarter or a half of the recommended volume until your body is accustomed to retaining that liquid. Obviously, you want to get to the full dose soon, but I had similar problems and my doctor reasoned that it was better to get *some* up and in to start with, than to lose the full dose night after night.

You might find, as I did, that retention gets easier as the Predsol eases some of the inflammation.

Some other tips:

* take two hot water bottles to bed with you: clamp one against your abdomen after the enema, and the other against your back. That might help with the spasms, and help you in retaining the enema.

* warm the enema slightly before administering it. Some people heat it in warm water, but I preferred to warm it against my body until it reached blood temperature.

* take some painkillers (Panadol, whatever) before the enema: these might slow peristalsis and help you with retention.

Good luck, and please know that you're not alone.

Ivy.
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Ashworthml
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   Posted 2/22/2010 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the advice ivy, I will try that tomorrow night and let you know how I get on with it. Also I am really having problems with sleeping atm as it is and I know its not going to be easy to sleep after doing the enemas, but I suppose even if I lay down for an hour or two, then get up if need be and maybe keep it in.But will give anything a go!
Michelle 40 years old
Diagnosed with CD 2004 (undiagnosed correctly +- 3 years, wrongly diagnosed with IBS)
Bowel resection 2005
medication: pentasa 500mg , Co-codomol 500mg/32mg codeine
loperamide 2mg (prn - take as many as 10-20 a day)
calcium tablets, multivitamin tablets, Omega 3
Ferrous sulphate(anaemia)
levothyroxine (thyroid)
questran light (3 sachets/day), 3 monthly B12 Injections


ivy6
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Total Posts : 10404
   Posted 2/22/2010 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I know; it's hard. And I know what you mean about the sleep.

I really hated Predsol: I hope you have a better time with it.
Co-Moderator Crohn's Forum.

Medications for Crohn's ~~ Diet and Nutritional Therapy for Crohn's ~~ Dealing with Abscesses and Fistulae ~~


FunGuy
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   Posted 2/22/2010 8:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I am there with you. I also try to be very sleepy before going to bed and using the cortisone enemas. Sometimes you make it and sometimes you don't. Try to relax.
 


chriswis
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   Posted 7/13/2013 4:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Started my second 2 week Predsol Enemas , Know just how you feel trying to keep the enema in is really hard ,my longest so far was one hour  so I am with you all the way confused

Undignified
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Date Joined Mar 2015
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   Posted 3/26/2015 7:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello, did anyone have any luck with the predsol retention enemas?
I just did my first one tonight and could not keep it in at all :-(

NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 3/26/2015 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I was prescribed Predsol and never used any.

I was then prescribed Salofalk enemas and never even called in the prescription :-/

I've had such bad experiences with laxative enemas I've been put off all enemas. For the laxative enemas, you are meant to hold them in for 15 minutes: I couldn't manage 15 seconds.
Dx Crohn's in summer of 2000. (Yay skull)
Tried and failed: 5-ASAs, Azathioprine, 6MP, Remicade, Methotrexate, Humira.
Diet didn't make any difference either.
Became steroid-dependent.

Had surgery 2/13 - subtotal colectomy with end ileostomy. Currently on no meds and in remission. Also prone to depression and anxiety. Ask me anything >_>

minnietoty
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Date Joined Dec 2010
Total Posts : 2425
   Posted 3/27/2015 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
If you can't retain the enema, there are two options. Either to ask your GI to prescribe you a steroid suppository. Or as my GI advises me to take Imodium to be able to retain the enema.
GERD, gastritis, ileitis, chronic proctitis, IBS and persistent mouth ulcers and fissures
Current meds: Pentasa sachets 4g, Entocort 7.5 mg, Nexium 40 x 2, Ensure, Imuran 175 mg, Baclofen 10 mg x3, Famotidine 40 mg x 2,Gaviscon 1 x 4, Calcium and magnesium supplement, multivitamin, B shots, pregabalin 50x2
Pred 40 mg from Oct. 2010 till Jan.2012
Failed:Azathioprine (generic), Methotrexate

Undignified
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Date Joined Mar 2015
Total Posts : 2
   Posted 3/28/2015 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the suggestions I might see if I can try the sups, am also on oral steroids so hopefully they kick in soon :-)
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