Who has Gallbladder involved in all this?

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Peaceandhappiness
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   Posted 3/12/2010 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm curious...I wonder if my gall bladder has anything to do w/all this. I don't get the regular *symptoms* that describe Gall Bladder pains or attacks or anything, but sometimes I swear I can feel my food filtering through it or something going on there. I've had just about everything checked except that...although last summer I went to the ER twice for a stomach thing (they thought it was Diverticulitus, but my Gastro is now saying it was something else), they had ultrasounded my gall bladder and it came back as *constricted* whatever that means.
-Mom of a preschool boy and teenage girl and wife to a wonderful man.
 
Hypothyroid, newly dx'd Crohn's, Gerd. I love to look for natural ways to heal first, conventional ways second and keep my faith.


broomhilda
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   Posted 3/12/2010 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh yeah...it's possible to have gall bladder problems going on at the same time. Several here do, however, don't think there is a "direct" link to the Crohns even though most of us might argue that point. I have a gall stone(s) that like to migrate & block the bile duct every now and then...pain, nausea, etc. The gurgling you feel is most likely your stomach though. Freaky feeling isn't it!
 


Valerie3
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   Posted 3/12/2010 5:46 PM (GMT -7)   
My old GI told me that there is a link to Crohn's in the small intestines and gallbladder problems. If you've got any disease in your small intestines, she said you're more prone to issues with your gallbladder. We thought I might've had gallstones, but I don't, at least that any tests have shown.

Grandpato2
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   Posted 3/12/2010 10:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I was eventually checked for gallbladder problems and they found 3 or more stones that also were mobile and would block the ducts causing severe pain. I had mine removed in Nov. '09. The right side pain I frequently had is now gone but the pain above my belly button is still there so now I know for sure that's the crohn's. I'm glad it was removed, I've enough pain without adding more.
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


Becky77
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   Posted 3/12/2010 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I suspect my gallbladder is causing me issues, though all tests on it have been normal.

I wonder though, should I ever have to have surgery again for my crohn's, if they could go ahead and take it out just to possibly save me a surgery in the future from gallbladder issues??
Becky

32 yr old female-dx with Crohn's in '97 after emergency resection and appendectomy, 2nd resection '05, Bilateral pulmonary emboli 10/09
Currently on Humira, Omeprazole, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D, Coumadin


sgirl
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   Posted 3/12/2010 11:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I believe it can be connected. I had gallbladder problems in 08, and since I was pregnant at the time and losing weight fast they decided it was best we take it out. I've been happily gallbladder pain free ever since! now to work on the crohns............ :)
Diagnosed with UC in February 2009.
Diagnosed with Crohn's Colitis December 2009.
Flaring since October 2008

Medication: Pentasa 6x daily, Imuran 37.5 mg, multivitamin. Probiotics through yogurt.


tsitodawg
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   Posted 3/13/2010 1:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Your gallbladder can be affected by your disease. When they removed my gallbladder I did not have any gallstones but it was not functioning correctly and was releasing way too much bile. They did not know why at the time because I was still going through the diagnosis process and they just decided to remove it because of the damage I was having from all the bile. When they removed it, the doctor put in his notes that the gallbladder was extremely thickened and inflammed possibly due to Crohn's disease. The same thing was written about my appendix that was removed 3 months prior by the same surgeon with 4 inches of intestine. He was the first to say that I had Crohn's disease despite it taking another year for me to be officially diagnosed.

Nanners
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   Posted 3/13/2010 9:51 AM (GMT -7)   
ALOT of folks on this very forum have had their GB's removed. Very common occurence. Good luck!
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Peaceandhappiness
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   Posted 3/13/2010 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   
tsitodawg said...
Your gallbladder can be affected by your disease. When they removed my gallbladder I did not have any gallstones but it was not functioning correctly and was releasing way too much bile. They did not know why at the time because I was still going through the diagnosis process and they just decided to remove it because of the damage I was having from all the bile. When they removed it, the doctor put in his notes that the gallbladder was extremely thickened and inflammed possibly due to Crohn's disease. The same thing was written about my appendix that was removed 3 months prior by the same surgeon with 4 inches of intestine. He was the first to say that I had Crohn's disease despite it taking another year for me to be officially diagnosed.
 
 
 
So how did you get diagnosed with the Gbladder stuff? I feel like I can "feel' bile/toxins releasing from it, but I don't get "attacks" or pains there or anything and my Gastro won't look at it, I have no idea where to start. I wish it would just have an attack so then it could be taken seriously. lol. How did they know it was doing damage?

-Mom of a preschool boy and teenage girl and wife to a wonderful man.
 
Hypothyroid, newly dx'd Crohn's, Gerd. I love to look for natural ways to heal first, conventional ways second and keep my faith.


Grandpato2
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   Posted 3/14/2010 12:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I was diagnose by abdominal ultrasound, the easiest test ever.
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


tsitodawg
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   Posted 3/14/2010 11:54 PM (GMT -7)   
It took another year after having my gallbladder removed to have a firm crohn's diagnosis due to a doctor that was in complete denial and his P.A. that was convinced that i was just 10 pounds overweight. Finally a internist, who is now my primary care physician, hospitalized be due to a G.I. bleed and would not let me out of the hospital until he knew what was wrong. 3 weeks later I was released from the hosptial, on remicade, and now fully diagnosed through a pill cam, biopsy, and promethius test. He was upset that I was not diagnosed back at the time of having my appendix out and then again when I had my gallbladder removed 3 months later. Looking back he said it should have been an easy diagnosis.

Kittikatt
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   Posted 3/17/2010 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   

I had my GB taken out last April.  I was having an upper burning/pain/ache in the middle of my torso, between my breastbone (a few inches above my belly button).  My GI didn't know "what" would cause that kind of pain.  My cousin who is an ultrasound tech suggested I get my GB checked, even though my GI didn't think that was the problem.

I would have placed money on my GB being fine but NOPE!  I had gall stones...a lot of itty-bitty ones so out it came.  My GI was shocked.  I was shocked.  My cousin was not.  According to her, the pain that most bad GB's cause aren't typical.  I always thought the pain had to be sharp and on my right side.  Not the case.

I think anything digestion-related should be tested if a person has Crohn's.  You never know!  After my GB was taken out, I came out of my 2-year long flare.  Go figure.


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Jen77
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   Posted 3/17/2010 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I lost my gallbladder several years ago. I had full on attacks, throwing up, sever pain. They didn't see anything on ultrasound the first time. A year later I had a very bad attack, and that's when they saw the stones. When my surgeon removed it he said it was very swollen and inflammed. I've been told there is a connection. It's part of our digestive system after all, so it doesn't surprise me.
~Jennifer
 
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease 2/06, and Health Anxiety/OCD 12/08 Taking Asacol, Questran, Toprol XL, and Celexa.


onedaymore
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   Posted 3/17/2010 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I had mine taken out long before I was diagnosed, but looking back . . . the symptoms were the same. And the lack of the symptoms disappearing after surgery kept me on a crusade to find out why -- hence the Crohn's diagnosis. Mine was a hunk of scar tissue by the time they got it out, and hadn't been functioning for quite some time.

Like many have already said, I've heard there's a strong connection between gallbladder dysfunction and IBD.
Diagnosed with Crohn's in 2008 at the age of 22.
Currently on: Remicade, Imuran, Pentasa, Zofran, Tramadol, Welchol, Phenergan, Ambien, Metoclopramide, Omeprazole, Hyoscyamine

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