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debilitated
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   Posted 3/13/2010 10:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I feel honestly in my personal opinion that this disease is caused a lot by the food we eat.

The #'s of Crohn's Cases are increasing dramatically all over the world. Even in places never seen before.
I honestly think in the next 5-10 years.

Not EVERYONE, but HUGE amounts of people are going to have Crohn's Disease.
I think it will get to that point where it's really going to start effecting people. Important people. Athletes.

Sadly, it may be the only way I and others may get relief because it just honestly seems that its turning into an epidemic.

Sorry for the abrasive post but i hope someday it does get the attention Crohn's disease really needs. I still wouldn't wish this condition on my worst nightmare.

medchrt1
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   Posted 3/14/2010 2:30 AM (GMT -7)   
i think US patent application 2009/0092637 A1 (publication date April 9, 2009) is "on the correct autoantigen track".

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   Posted 3/14/2010 3:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Debilitated
I am totally with you regarding it being caused by the food we eat especially regarding how the food is produced-pumped with who knows what in the case of meat, sprayed with god knows what in the case of cereals,veg, salad etc and then in a case of a lot of the commercially prepared foods they are pumped with preservatives, colouring, artifical flavouring etc.
I think (although I do not know) that is why some people have good results with the SCD-it appears to be taking food back to bascis.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 5:50 AM (GMT -7)   
If diet was really the cause, it'd also be the solution, as in coeliac disease.

Things just happen. Things go wrong. People develop genetic weaknesses. What explains motor neurone disease? Haemophilia? We know there is a genetic basis to Crohn's, and that genes affect the severity/behavour of the disease, but we don't know what triggers off the genes to do their annoying work. Me, I'd look to a genetic cure in the future. That, or stem cell therapy.

medchrt1
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   Posted 3/14/2010 5:55 AM (GMT -7)   
http://www.diamyd.com/
will prolly come from this company

Escalador
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   Posted 3/14/2010 5:58 AM (GMT -7)   
genes dont play an important role in this disease

NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 3/14/2010 6:01 AM (GMT -7)   
They play enough of a role to make Crohn's disease run in families: they're not that insignificant.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   
If you want to debate the genes vs food on a small sample: I am a biologic only child, but I have an adopted sister. My mother had CD, my father has AS, both Auto Immune diseases. I have CD and have problems with my back and other joints (pre cursor to AS?). My sister has nothing. WE BOTH ate all the same foods growing up, grew up in the same environment, lived in the same house for our entire childhood, yet I showed signs of CD at 13. Sorry I don't believe that genes play NO part in this.
I am predisposed to Auto Immune diseases because of my parents history. Can food be a trigger, sure, cause, not in my opinion.
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Escalador
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   Posted 3/14/2010 6:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Crohns isnt a genetic disease ...

to quote:
http://www.ccfa.org/reuters/geneticlink

"- Scientists have identified a handful of genes that increase the risk of developing Crohn's disease"

increase the risk... that means its not a direct causal link ... so its only a factor, but not the primary one ... if you'r talking about cures or vaccines then the primary factor (that is still unknown) is the important one

the most "famous" gene to crohns is the NOD2 ... but the mutation of that gene is only present in 30 % of people that have Crohns (and in 10 % of people that dont have crohns)... see my point? its not the primary factor

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   Posted 3/14/2010 6:21 AM (GMT -7)   
the big problem is that Crohn's disease is unlikely a single disease entity and that, in all probability, Crohn's disease represents a syndrome with multiple etiologies. By definition, Crohn's disease is an etiopathic disease, i.e., it has no known etiology. Cases of idiopathic bowel disease (including Crohn's Disease) are diagnosed subjectively by individual clinicians and pathologists; there is no specific test for the disease. Because it is a subjective diagnosis, there exists inherent error. In fact, there is a known 20% diagnostic error in Crohn's disease.
so, we are at the point that we dont know what it is, why it is, and how it is... for now i dont see how we could get any kind of a cure in the near future withour answering those 3 questions ... thats why I am excited about the MAP theory.. for now, the MAP theory and the Hygiene hypothesis are the only 2 active theories that are trying to answer those questions

debilitated
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   Posted 3/14/2010 8:06 AM (GMT -7)   
hmm, well thanks for hijacking the post. :-D

was simply looking to see if people believed the disease was spreading and rapidly becoming popular.

not if it was genetic debate.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
The problem is that there are so many different factors that seem to make people get Crohn's and it varies between people so it's pretty difficult to understand. It's a really complex disease, unfortunately. I do believe that one factor for me is that my aunt had MS, so I was predisposed to having an autoimmune condition. No family history of CD though. I don't think that food triggered it for me, but I do believe that stress did in my case, because I was under a tremendous amount of stress when the disease first hit me. I'm sure it was laying dormant before that, but stress is definitely what made it all start in my case. I hope that they figure out exactly what causes this and if there are any controllable environmental factors that can be used to prevent this, and hopefully some day find a cure, but I think it'll be a loooong time before we see one, unfortunately.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 8:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes there will be a cure. Regardless of the cause(s) of CD. I believe that nothing is incurable given time to develope tech. I also feel that we are close to understanding the way our bodies work and that knowledge will yield cures for most things. Unfortunately stupidity and other human weakness will not be cured that soon.

This is just my gut (pun) feeling.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
I do hope that one day there is a cure. I think its a long time off though. Because I feel there are too many variables as to the cause of Crohns. Some have strong family histories of autoimmune diseases in their families. Some one in a family might have RA, while another Crohns or another might have MS. Then there are folks like myself who have absolutely no family history. But....I did take alot of antibiotics as a child, drank lots of milk, and started smoking at a very young age (13). Smoking is a known trigger for Crohns, so I personally thats what did it to me. But I think debilitated has one good point, that more people are coming down with it, and I personally feel it has something to do with all the preservatives and fast foods in our diets now a days. JMHO
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   Posted 3/14/2010 9:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm not very optimistic as far as a cure. I'm glad about all the new treatments though.
33 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. Proferrin iron pills.

Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.


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   Posted 3/14/2010 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   
In europe and south America they are having 80% success rates with complete no symptom remission at the 6 year mark with stemcell transplants. 20% have had their symptoms decrease by such a large amount that their meds were reduced or stopped. Stem Cells are the key to a cure and life long remmission. If i could afford it I would go to Europe Tomorrow!

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   Posted 3/14/2010 10:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Doc2007 said...
In europe and south America they are having 80% success rates with complete no symptom remission at the 6 year mark with stemcell transplants. 20% have had their symptoms decrease by such a large amount that their meds were reduced or stopped. Stem Cells are the key to a cure and life long remmission. If i could afford it I would go to Europe Tomorrow!


I live in Europe and this is the first time i'm hearing about this .. whats your source? :)

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   Posted 3/14/2010 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
well this is terribly cynical....but here is my answer. Do I believe a cure is possible - yes. Do I believe it will be found anytime soon - no. the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money treating these disease..there is no profit in a cure.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 10:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I actually feel like I was infected with this, but I have no scientific proof of this.
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Escalador
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   Posted 3/14/2010 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
MMMNAVY said...
I actually feel like I was infected with this, but I have no scientific proof of this.


I didnt want to say it but I too think aliens gave me this




just kidding smilewinkgrin

vixen
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   Posted 3/14/2010 10:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Doc 2007- I too am in Europe and it's the first I have heard

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   Posted 3/14/2010 11:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, Stem cell transplants are happening right here in my neighborhood in chicago. He is correct. Success rates are unreal. They are just very hard procedures, risky and needed to be done carefully.

I honestly believe that we are going to continue to eat more poorly. More Mcdonalds, more fast food. The poor you get the worse off you eat. cheap food. Preservative food.

Ill bet in 5- 10 years, Crohn's will be something we will see all over the place.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Cheap, degraded, factory-farmed food has been around since the second world war, and yet rates of IBD didn't immediately rocket. I think there are many other factors at work than diet, although doubtless diet is a trigger for some people.

But too many people place too much emphasis on diet, in my opinion. It's great if a specialist diet works for you. Doesn't mean it's going to work for everybody or even the majority, as is indeed the case.

debilitated
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   Posted 3/14/2010 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
cheap degrated but real.
Now they are scarfing down cows with massive amounts of corn. and hormones.

not grass.
massive amounts of antibiotics.

trust me... its A LOT different. It's the meat. Its the food... just because families grew up eating the "same" food doesnt mean anything. We all have different triggers.

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   Posted 3/14/2010 12:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Just google stemcell treatment for crohns. A friend of mine was going to go when he thought he may have gotten cancer. During his research he found a lot of info on crohns and he called me really excited about it. He is a very very very smart man. A computer genius and studies nano technology and things of that nature.
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