I notice a lot of you take Bee Pollen?

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Peaceandhappiness
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   Posted 3/17/2010 2:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Just curious as to why. Do you take it instead of b-stress for stress due to your disease? Or for the enzymes/aminos to help you digest better? Just curious.
 
I understand the need for b-12 (totally) and other stuff. I have taken Bee Pollen in the past or B stress vitamins and not sure which one to buy that is better. I *think* I remember getting more/better results from Bee Pollen. My husband gets results from B-Stress vitamins.
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   Posted 3/18/2010 6:55 AM (GMT -7)   
PB4 is one who has been using Bee Pollen for awhile. Why, I can't remember. But its seems to really help her.
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   Posted 3/18/2010 7:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Just fyi oral b-12 is usually not enough for people with crohns, sublingual or injectables are easier for a crohnie to absorb, especially if you have disease in your TI, where b-12 is absorbed.
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medchrt1
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   Posted 3/18/2010 7:36 AM (GMT -7)   
just an added note that honey itself has potential for being an antimicrobial (as you never see ants eating all the honey do you) lol. so use honey for sweetener :) if you tolerate it of course.

Peaceandhappiness
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   Posted 3/18/2010 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I have sublingual b-12's.
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pb4
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   Posted 3/18/2010 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
I use bee propolis, it's a little different than bee pollen, I find it stronger or something, it's more effective than bee pollen was for me...the bee products are completely different from B-12 or other B vitamins...I take B12 as well since my levels were very low.

The bee propolis helped me alot (not full remission but with my perianal issues I have, I don't expect a full remission, besides which, it's been 19 yrs now and to date I've never gone into full remission)....bee propolis did stop all my lower back pain (I'd get with each of my 30+ daily BM's) it also cut my daily BM's down in half, so 15 was better than 30+ by all means, it stopped all my bleeding too, I have crohn's colitis (CD affecting the colon) so bleeding can be a pretty common symptom with Crohn's Colitis)...my GI was thrilled when I explained all the thing bee propolis helped me with so he encouraged me to continue with it daily and indefinitely since it's 100% non-toxic (doesn't build up in your system and cause any grief).

Just be warned, if you're allergic to bees then avoid bee products.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


Octobergirl
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   Posted 3/19/2010 9:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey PB4,

Can I ask what brand of bee propolis you use?

Thanks!

pb4
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   Posted 3/19/2010 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes Octobergirl, I buy mine from puritans pride online, they're currently having a good sale right now too (at least I think the uy 1 get 2 free is still on at the moment)....When I first started using bee propolis I actually bought the liquid version from my local health food store (puritans does not sell a liquid version that can be taken orally) and it was because I was soooooooooo sick and the clerk said that liquids tend to absorb better and quicker so that's the form I started with, then I weened onto PP brand of pills.

:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


Octobergirl
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   Posted 3/19/2010 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the info, pb4! I'm glad it's working for you. :)

pmedic
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   Posted 3/19/2010 3:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Pb4- I have Crohn's colitis with heavy bleeding and I am very interested in the Bee propolis. I just left the health food store and they had this product in the energy section of vitamins. I didn't buy it because I was worried this would increase my heart rate as I am very sensitive to any medication that can increase your heart rate. Does this product increase your heart rate at all? No side effects? Did you have heavy bleeding/ transfusions before taking this product?Thanks!
Dx:Ulcerative Colitis March 2008
Dx: Crohns May 2008
No surgeries yet but I am desperately trying to keep my colon.
8 blood transfusions, SVT due to low H&H, Anxiety during new medication injections due to past reactions. 
Been through MANY medications with terrible results.
Currently on Cimzia, Welchol (for crohns), Ambien (prn), xanax(prn), Cod Liver Oil and Feosol iron.
Organic diet has made a big difference for me. 
Learning how to love life and relax. 


Peaceandhappiness
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   Posted 3/19/2010 5:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I was taking Bee Pollen in the past as my "be vitamins", plus they have enzymes and aminos, so that is good. They tasted good, and so it wasn't a big deal and I think I might of lost a few pounds.
-Mom of a preschool boy and teenage girl and wife to a wonderful man.
 
Hypothyroid, newly dx'd Crohn's, Gerd. I love to look for natural ways to heal first, conventional ways second and keep my faith.


pb4
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   Posted 3/19/2010 11:25 PM (GMT -7)   
pmedic....it does not increase my heart rate...I have had no side effects from it at all...only those that are allergic to bees should be cautious with bee products..I had heavy enough bleeding before using it but never had any blood transfusions...google bee propolis, you'll find all kinds of benefits that it has...as my GI pointed out to me, with it being 100% non-toxic it doesn't build up in your system, he also said it's a great dietary supplement for IBDers since we have issues absorbing nutrients via diet alone and encourages me to continue taking it...I've been taking it for about 6 yrs now, daily with no issues what so ever....like I said, not full remission but definitely improvement...I read about it from someone at another board 6 yrs ago who claimed it put him into remission...everyone is different of course, but I'll take any help I can get.


:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


pmedic
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   Posted 3/20/2010 7:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Pb4- Thank you for that information. I am going to try it since I just started having an increase in my bleeding again. I can eat honey so I should be ok.
Dx:Ulcerative Colitis March 2008
Dx: Crohns May 2008
No surgeries yet but I am desperately trying to keep my colon.
8 blood transfusions, SVT due to low H&H, Anxiety during new medication injections due to past reactions. 
Been through MANY medications with terrible results.
Currently on Cimzia, Welchol (for crohns), Ambien (prn), xanax(prn), Cod Liver Oil and Feosol iron.
Organic diet has made a big difference for me. 
Learning how to love life and relax. 


pb4
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   Posted 3/20/2010 1:58 PM (GMT -7)   
You're very welcome pmedic, I hope you find some benefits from it...I take 1 500mg cap 2X/day, of course you can take more but I wouldn't take it less than 2 a day...feel free to play around with it too though, upping it or lowering it, finding out what dosage works best for you, afterall we are all different. Be sure to let me know how things go with it....also, although I noticed improvements right away (next day after taking it) I'm sure everyone is different in that respect too so give it a fair chance (finish at least a whole bottle) sometimes it can take months for things to finally kick in....I can only go by my experiances with it but I hope you have lots of luck with it too.

Also, pregnant or breastfeeding mothers should not use it.


:)
bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


pmedic
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   Posted 3/20/2010 5:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Pb4- I will let you know how it goes! I just got back from a local health food store trying to purchase a bottle but they only had the 250mg extract so I decided I will order it online from PP. Thanks again!
Dx:Ulcerative Colitis March 2008
Dx: Crohns May 2008
No surgeries yet but I am desperately trying to keep my colon.
8 blood transfusions, SVT due to low H&H, Anxiety during new medication injections due to past reactions. 
Been through MANY medications with terrible results.
Currently on Cimzia, Welchol (for crohns), Ambien (prn), xanax(prn), Cod Liver Oil and Feosol iron.
Organic diet has made a big difference for me. 
Learning how to love life and relax. 


pb4
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   Posted 3/20/2010 9:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I'd go ahead and grab the 250 mg of the extract, I started with extract before I weened onto pills, I was in really bad shape when I started with the BP, going 30+ times a day, with lots of blood and severe lower back pain with every BM and tons of mucous too. At least it will be a start until your pills arrive too.  The kind I bought instructed to add a few drops (can't remember exactly how many) to a small glass of juice, it tasted pretty rank but was worth it.
 
:)


bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


pmedic
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   Posted 3/21/2010 11:39 AM (GMT -7)   
This extract was in pill form, not the liquid. Do you think it would work the same?
Dx:Ulcerative Colitis March 2008
Dx: Crohns May 2008
No surgeries yet but I am desperately trying to keep my colon.
8 blood transfusions, SVT due to low H&H, Anxiety during new medication injections due to past reactions. 
Been through MANY medications with terrible results.
Currently on Cimzia, Welchol (for crohns), Ambien (prn), xanax(prn), Cod Liver Oil and Feosol iron.
Organic diet has made a big difference for me. 
Learning how to love life and relax. 

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