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Nanners
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   Posted 3/30/2010 2:10 PM (GMT -7)   
You are always talking about a stock/soup you make up for those bad days.  Can you give me the recipe again.  I haven't been feeling so great (too much stress) so I have that anxious tummy, and would like to make some up and put it in the fridge/freezer to eat as needed.  Thanks, and I hope you are doing well as can be expected.
 
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   Posted 3/30/2010 2:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, stock is easy.

Just go down to the supermarket / butcher and ask for some chicken frames (that's the skeleton that's left once they take the breasts, drumsticks, etc etc off). I find that three or four is a good number.

Put frames in saucepan. Add water - maybe enough to cover half or 3/4 of the bones. Gently boil for a few hours until the residual meat has turned white and the frames are starting to disintegrate.

Strain. Put broth in fridge to settle overnight. In the morning, skim off the fat and dispose of it. Divide the stock into portions and refrigerate / freeze, then enjoy. You can drink this straight when flaring / doing bowel prep, or add a few noodles or mashed root veg or rice when you're starting to recuperate, or use it as the basis for making soups / casseroles.

I choose chicken frames because I like to take the meat off the bones once it's cooked and use it for sandwiches, or for soup. You can boil up chicken necks too, and necks will make a richer stock, but I find that the meat off the necks is too fatty for sandwiches, so I use them less often.

You can do this with most types of bones, but I tend do make chicken stock most of the time, as lamb and beef bones are very fatty and the stock pans are horrid to wash up afterwards.

You can be very posh and add carrots, celery etc to your chicken as you're making the stock, but I prefer to boil it straight.

I also save any water from when I microwave veg and freeze it, and that becomes veg stock. It's not the traditional way of making it, but it's easy and it suffices.

Hope this helps and that you feel better soon.

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   Posted 3/30/2010 2:53 PM (GMT -7)   
ps. You can also do this with a whole chicken.

Some people also make stock with their leftover bones from their regular daily meals, but my mother never did this as she said that there's a limit to how many times you should heat / freeze / reuse meat products, and that you risk food poisoning by reusing bones like that. Celebrity chefs like Nigella do it, though, so you can make up your own mind.

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   Posted 3/30/2010 3:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I would say also if you are doing the whole chicken that unless you like the taste of gizard take it out. Once you are finished with the bones my Mother ground them up and used them as part of the compost pile.
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   Posted 3/30/2010 7:25 PM (GMT -7)   
an old grinder (about 5 inch opening) that was my great grandma's that basically c-clamped to the cabinet or table, and Be Very Careful when you jammed those bones in there
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   Posted 3/30/2010 8:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hmmmm. It's a good idea. I don't have a grinder, but I wonder if I could run cooked bones through the mulcher, along with the garden clippings?

Your Mum / Mom sounds as if she was very thrifty and industrious.
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   Posted 3/31/2010 12:11 AM (GMT -7)   
I remember using those old grinders especially at Christmas to grind up onions and dry bread for turkeys way less mess and quick. Nanners I hope you'll be feeling better soon Rob:-)


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   Posted 3/31/2010 4:28 AM (GMT -7)   
My mom makes soup exactly like that for me when I'm not feeling well!
I had to laugh at the phrase "chicken frame"... that is an awesome way of saying it. Here it's the much less lovely word carcass. Gross!
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   Posted 3/31/2010 6:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much for the recipes. My sister in law down in Guadalajara always make this wonderful chicken soup just for me. She puts in a herb called yerba buena which is good for your stomach, but I can't find any up here. I tried making her soup without, but it just doesn't taste the same. Thanks again for the ideas. Hugs!
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   Posted 3/31/2010 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I always have homemade soup in the freezer for just this reason. Whole foods has frozen bones near the meat counter that are really cheap (neck and backs), if you have a Whole Foods near you. I make mine with just a few changes from Ivy's. I use Chicken broth instead of water, so I get a double rich broth in the end, I add a bay leaf, a few carrots, a few stalks of celery, an onion and a few pepper corns and about 1/2 a cup of lemon juice. The lemon juice helps to pull all the protein out of the bones so the stock is richer and all the veggies just add extra taste, but I toss them at the end. I still chill the broth like Ivy does, because of the lemon juice the broth is basically gelatin when cold. When I make soup out of it, I actually use fresh chicken breast because I don't end up with much usable meat from the bones. It is the most comforting thing when doing a prep or not feeling well. I hope you feel better soon.
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   Posted 3/31/2010 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Oooh that sounds really good too Zanne. I will have to try that one too. Thanks so much for the suggestions.
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   Posted 3/31/2010 3:56 PM (GMT -7)   
You can make it with a splash of vinegar too.
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