Do you get D from your Probiotics?

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farfrmnormal
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   Posted 4/15/2010 5:48 PM (GMT -7)   
So I recently incorporated probiotics into my diet along with Liberte organic yogurt. The probiotics I had recommended to me are called Ultimate Flora and contain 50 billion live bacteria - specifically designed for Crohn's and UC. I was advised to take them before bed and did so on Monday and Tuesday evening. Early Wednesday morning around 3am I was awoken by cramps and immediately had to use the bathroom. The D was pretty bad. I didn't take the probiotic last night and thought perhaps I should start off by taking one every other night.

Is it good practice to start off slow and take them every other day if I experience difficulties or do I have to take them every day for them to build up in my system? Is D common when starting a probiotic?
- Diagnosed Nov 08' but undiagnosed for 13 years prior with no major problems
- First major flare Aug-Sep 09 - I attribute it to intolerance to meds and crappy GI
- Perianal abscess - EUA with drainage and Seton put in
- Meds: Remicade for life


FunGuy
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   Posted 4/15/2010 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I find that when I take too many probiotics I get bad gas and cramps. Not sure about D since I have that so often anyway. I take ONE a day I am OK and I think I am better off taking them in the morning.

For me i would start slow on those. IMHO
 


farfrmnormal
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   Posted 4/15/2010 6:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for your reply - I was doing really well with having no D since I started my remicade and then after I started the probiotics things started getting all gurgly and upset.

I'm wondering if I should take mine in the afternoon. I can't take them in the morning because I have antibiotics I have to take on an empty stomach.

So taking one every other day is ok? Will I still be building up bacteria in my body by doing so?
- Diagnosed Nov 08' but undiagnosed for 13 years prior with no major problems
- First major flare Aug-Sep 09 - I attribute it to intolerance to meds and crappy GI
- Perianal abscess - EUA with drainage and Seton put in
- Meds: Remicade for life


FunGuy
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   Posted 4/15/2010 6:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know. I can only share my experience with the probiotics I use. If this product is causing you to get worse and you were doing OK without it then why use it? In any event it isn't medicine so i can't see why every other day would be bad and perhaps your body will adjust and you will be able to go to a "full" dose.

Could it be the antibiotics on the empty stomach that are causing your upset???

Luck!!!!
 


farfrmnormal
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   Posted 4/16/2010 5:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I actually started taking probiotics because I was having yeast problems and it was recommended that I incorporate something into my regime. I'm wondering if perhaps I should try something with fewer active cells?

As for the antibiotics - I have to take them on an empty stomach. I've been taking them for about 3 months now and until recently they have not caused me problems.

Insight from others would be great.
- Diagnosed Nov 08' but undiagnosed for 13 years prior with no major problems
- First major flare Aug-Sep 09 - I attribute it to intolerance to meds and crappy GI
- Perianal abscess - EUA with drainage and Seton put in
- Meds: Remicade for life


Nanners
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   Posted 4/16/2010 6:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Sometimes maybe you have to try a different probiotic. I had one that I was taking successfully and then they changed the formula up some and it gave me cramps and D. So I changed to a different probiotic and am doing fine now.
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Zanne
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   Posted 4/16/2010 6:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I've had to try about 4 or 5 brands before I found the brand that was right for me. That being said, it will take a few weeks before your body adjusts to any probiotic, so you need to give it time. If you are still having problems after 3 weeks move on to another brand, give it a few weeks and evaluate again. We all take different brands and could tell you that OUR brand is best, but really it is all about what works for YOU.

But one thing is true about all probiotics. You get what you pay for, so don't go super cheap.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


farfrmnormal
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   Posted 4/16/2010 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I know about the whole theory of “You get what you pay for” with regards to probiotics. I definitely didn’t cheap out. The stuff I purchased was $40.00 and is a 30 day supply. It has to be refrigerated which I have been told is the best to purchase.

I think I will start with the 1 pill every other night to try and gradually work into this. However; I’m wondering if I should just give up on them all together and just do what I was doing before. It seemed to work for the crohn's. The yeast however, that's another story.
- Diagnosed Nov 08' but undiagnosed for 13 years prior with no major problems
- First major flare Aug-Sep 09 - I attribute it to intolerance to meds and crappy GI
- Perianal abscess - EUA with drainage and Seton put in
- Meds: Remicade for life


Zanne
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   Posted 4/16/2010 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I also had tried some very expensive, refrigerated brands and had horrible side effects. That is my point. If you have been taking them for at least 3 weeks and your symptoms have not improved or changed, it isn't the right brand for YOU, no matter how much you paid for it and no matter who recommended it.

I spent the better part of a year trying different brands and having terrible results. I gave up and figured that probiotics were a waste of money and everyone was crazy who took them. A few years later, my doctor recommended that I try a different brand, after the initial "die off", this brand worked for me. Now I am a convert. I can tell if I don't take the probiotic and I increase my dose every time I have to be on antibiotics. If you find the right one for you, it can make a huge difference. It just takes time, patience and trial and error.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


FunGuy
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   Posted 4/16/2010 5:23 PM (GMT -7)   
i think your slow start plan is a good one. drop us a note and let us know how you make out
 

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