Borgarigimi - those coffee maker noises

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Sofee
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   Posted 4/22/2010 12:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I am making a plee ~

I suffer from what I think is called Borgariagmi - a noise gut.
It is very very loud and very very annoying.
I is constantly making noises, and is very embarrising.
I have tried GAS X and PEPTO BISMOL - they work for a bit (a few hrs.) but its only a temporary fix.

I have monitored my diet a bit and it seems like it dosen't matter what I eat,
You should hear it - even when I drink water.
There is pressure and discomfort as well that comes along with it most of the time.
I have no idea what else there is out there to make this STOP.
Sometimes it wakes me up a night. And sometimes people look at me strange like I just swallowed a cat
thats trying to claw its way out of my stomach.
I still have about 10 + BM's a day and I am soon going to see another GI in Edmonton for further testing.
Any suggestions, ideas, feedback, similar experiences, is there anyway to get rid of this?
33 yr. old female CANADIAN
dx with UC October 1998
had temp j-pouch: '98-'99
disease free & back to norm: '99-'07
dx. with CD March 2009
Currently taking: Remicade mthly & Imarun


In my next life: I want to be a big beautiful oak tree or something like that... so I can live off of just sunshine and water.


njmom
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   Posted 4/22/2010 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
The noise can be caused by a stricture, due to inflammation and/or scar tissue.
 
We used to be able to hear my daughter clear across the room - even before she was formally diagnosed with Crohn's. After she started eating yoghurt, the sounds quieted down substantially.
 
Today, she makes homemade yogurt, aged 24 hours (per the SCD diet) and eats it every day...we think of it like medicine. 
Daughter (22) Dx'd Crohn's 3/06. Misdiagnosed for two years, including by top pediatric Crohn's specialist as stress. No symptoms for the past three years. March '09 colonoscopy showed stricture gone but two spots of inflammation in TI. Used LDN to taper off Entocort last fall. (Was on Entocort since April 06.) Never had D. 4.5 mg LDN, SCD multivit, homemade yogurt, 5000IU vit D3, 1000 mg calcium, 27-54 mg iron, monthly B12 shots, daily oral B12 1000, 10mg zinc. SCD diet modified years ago to include potatoes and rice. 


lilcrohnieUK
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   Posted 4/22/2010 2:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Mine was very noisy when I last flared, I think also because I was underweight there wasn't a lot on top of my belly to muffle the sound! Even now its still noisier then your average person, I get asked constantly if I'm hungry!
I think if you get pressure and discomfort with it it could well be down a bit of stricturing. My GI said the more noise it makes the more it means your intestines are working hard e.g. having to push something through a stricture, might be worth keeping it low fibre/residue until you can see a GI.
 
 


MToronto2
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   Posted 4/22/2010 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Bor-bor-ygmi! Where the wind goes running through the guts.

Even healthy people get this. It's normal and compared to pooping your pants, it's really not worth your embarrassment.

Try adding probiotics to your diet, if your not taking them already -- start small, every other day and gradually increase; also, you may have to try different brands to find the right combo for you.

The thing to worry about, for me, is when my gut stops making those noises.

Hello Saskatchewan!
CD 24 years. Multiple surgeries in past 10 yrs. 4 year Illeostomy. Mesh rejection. Too close to death, twice. Large inscisional hernia. Perpetually underweight. Short bowel syndrom. Have used a variety of complementary medical therapies. Highly recommend Bowen Therapy as the best body work. Take me vites. Started Low Dose Naltrexone March 27, 2010. Got married for the only time 2008. Survive because of the love of good friends, and because I can. Happy to be alive. IBD needs more awareness and more voices willing to speak up. BE well.


29Lancelot
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   Posted 4/22/2010 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
It is a normal noise - but one that should only be heard with a stethoscope. For us crohnies and the decibels we are capable of - it is usually indicative of a narrowing of the intestines for one reason or another.....obstruction, adhesions, strictures, polyps etc. I had the same issue for most of a year - until it ended with a resection after multiple obstructions. Hope that isn't the case for you - hello Alberta!

  • CD dx '86. Re-section '93. Dx Crohn's Colitis '98.
  • Participation in Remicade trials (fistulae) late 90's.
  • Manifestations of fissures, fistula, scleritis, polyarthralgia and erythema nodosum.
  • Presently on Imuran, Cipro, Flagyl
  • Remicade (2nd attempt - after 10 yrs - failed).  
  • Fistulotomy (Oct 2009) - failed miserably - now healing resistant wound tract (4+ months)
  • Humira (March 2010)


tabicat
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   Posted 4/22/2010 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I get these noises often.
Sometimes there's abdominal pain with them, and sometimes not.

They can be embarassing, but anyone with Crohn's knows, those are the least of your worries.

Sofee
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   Posted 4/25/2010 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
well, sorry for the delay on responding back - thank-you to all of you who responded. Good thoughts, good friends!
I know you are all so very right, Bor-bor-ygmi should be the least of my worries, and yes I have a strong feeling that there is something there abnormal that is causing most of the noises like a stricture or something... I do have a bit of narrowing that they had discovered in tests before, and yes I try very hard to stick to a low residue diet although I do have many favorites like pineapple, and nuts, and popcorn, oh my there are many ... I will end my list there cause its making me hungry. I also take aphadophillis - a natural vitaman that is like taking oodles of yogurt daily and I do see some positive signs with it. But I only take 1 pill a day because they are pretty expensive.
Maybe I will break my piggy bank and try to find some extra $$ and start taking them more often.

Either way I will be going soon to the big city Edmonton and seeing a very busy specialist there for more tests and stuff. I just pray that the good lord will be on my side and things go well and I won't have to miss too much work - The bills don't pay themselves unfortunately...

Thanks again. It is very comforting to know others are out there that know & understand. Its therapy in itself! :o]
33 yr. old female CANADIAN
dx with UC October 1998
had temp j-pouch: '98-'99
disease free & back to norm: '99-'07
dx. with CD March 2009
Currently taking: Remicade mthly & Imarun


In my next life: I want to be a big beautiful oak tree or something like that... so I can live off of just sunshine and water.


Blossom
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Total Posts : 176
   Posted 4/25/2010 1:35 PM (GMT -7)   
From what I understand from my GI doc, those sounds are normal. The sounds are caused by the contractions occurring in the intestines. Some people have this more than others. I know this can be embarrassing, but at least it's not really serious.

Now, if you're having cramping and/or diarrhea every time your bowels are noisy, then that's a different matter and probably isn't normal.
54 year old female;
 
Have had Crohn's of terminal ileum for 10 years.   Small bowel resection (my first) on 7-30-09.  Monthly B12 shots.
 
On Humira since Dec. 2008.  Allergic/hypersensitivity to Pentasa, Entocort, and 6-MP.  


MToronto2
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   Posted 4/25/2010 6:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Nuts, seeds and popcorn are very dangerous! Consider what happens when an ulcer breaks open leaving a nice little pocket for that kind of debris to get lodged into... Pineapple is good, full of digestive enzymes.

I don't have any central abdominal muscles, and I have a colo-cutaneous fistula so I can fart through my belly. So when I get borborygmi I just pretend it's my husband :)

Agree with the cramping and noise, but then I never get noise when I'm cramping.
CD 24 years. Multiple surgeries in past 10 yrs. 4 year Illeostomy. Mesh rejection. Too close to death, twice. Large inscisional hernia. Perpetually underweight. Short bowel syndrom. Have used a variety of complementary medical therapies. Highly recommend Bowen Therapy as the best body work. Take me vites. Started Low Dose Naltrexone March 27, 2010. Got married for the only time 2008. Survive because of the love of good friends, and because I can. Happy to be alive. IBD needs more awareness and more voices willing to speak up. BE well.


Grandpato2
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   Posted 4/25/2010 11:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Not just popcorn any whole corn can be a problem.
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


Nanners
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   Posted 4/26/2010 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I would lean towards a stricture myself. And do agree wholeheartedly that a good probiotic will help alot too. Good luck!
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Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
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