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jpnutritionfirst
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   Posted 4/29/2010 11:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm thinking of trying helminth therapy. Unlike other natural therapies out there, this really makes sense to me scientifically. The small clinical trials I've read through show very promising results and there are no serious or lasting side-effects. It's pretty expensive, but I'm willing up to up the $3000 dollars to at least try it once. Has anyone else tried this? I know there was a previous post about this but it was a while back. Any recommendations for the best supplier? Any reason why I shouldn't do this? By the way, it doesn't bother me that a worm would be living inside of me if it means I can loosen up my dietary restrictions a bit. Ah, if I could just eat an oreo every once in a while . . .
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Herbert Smith
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   Posted 6/13/2010 4:32 AM (GMT -7)   
You can find the list of providers here: opensourcehelminththerapy.org/mediawiki2/index.php?title=Providers
I tried the therapy recently and so far I am seeing good results.

jpnutritionfirst said...
I'm thinking of trying helminth therapy. Unlike other natural therapies out there, this really makes sense to me scientifically. The small clinical trials I've read through show very promising results and there are no serious or lasting side-effects. It's pretty expensive, but I'm willing up to up the $3000 dollars to at least try it once. Has anyone else tried this? I know there was a previous post about this but it was a while back. Any recommendations for the best supplier? Any reason why I shouldn't do this? By the way, it doesn't bother me that a worm would be living inside of me if it means I can loosen up my dietary restrictions a bit. Ah, if I could just eat an oreo every once in a while . . .

MAG102886
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   Posted 6/13/2010 5:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm seriously considering this, actually I told my GI I wanted to do it.  I showed him this website http://autoimmunetherapies.com/helminthic-therapy-worm-therapy-index.html  and he told me he would do some research on it and get back to me.  When he did get back to me he told me the doctor running the whole thing is not credible, and he has only ever done 2 research papers (I guess that's bad?) on the subject. That's not to say the worms themselves don't work.  He also said the way they are harvasting these worms isn't correct (I don't know what the correct way is).  Honestly, even after him saying his thoughts I still wanted the worms. 
 
I've seen a couple different ways to take them.  One is drinking, and another is putting them on a bandaid and sticking it to your arm.  Patients say you can actually feel them digging into your skin and through your body (not painful, but ticklish).  Once the worms are in your body they go straight to your lungs, at this point you cough them up and then swallow back down the mucus and ta-da they are in your intestines.
 
Some people use websites, others actually go to Mexico and see doctors there for the worms, and some even go harvest the worms themselves!!  Personally, I think I'm going to wait a while to attempt to get mine.
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Herbert Smith
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   Posted 6/13/2010 6:08 AM (GMT -7)   
There's some truth to what you posted and some are misplaced facts. I highly suggest you to visit the link in my previous post, read all the research posted there and follow all the links. It will take you a few hours to read it all as there is quite a lot of information there. Also, join the yahoo group mentioned there and read the last few hundred posts - they contain personal posts by people who already started this therapy (such as myself).
Whipworm is obtained by drinking the fluid with the ova. Hookworm enter through the skin - all you feel is a mild itch.
It's irrelevant that Marc Dellerba - the PhD your dr referred to, only authored 2 papers. He is not providing a medically authorized treatment and he hasn't published anything on the subject himself - he is just providing the therapy. However, there is plenty of research showing that it really does work as treatment for Cron's.
I can tell you that the way they are harvesting the worms is in fact correct as the patients obtained successful infections.
I would suggest you print out the actual research articles from the medical journals and show them to your doctor. Then see what he says.

MAG102886 said...
I'm seriously considering this, actually I told my GI I wanted to do it. I showed him this website http://autoimmunetherapies.com/helminthic-therapy-worm-therapy-index.html and he told me he would do some research on it and get back to me. When he did get back to me he told me the doctor running the whole thing is not credible, and he has only ever done 2 research papers (I guess that's bad?) on the subject. That's not to say the worms themselves don't work. He also said the way they are harvasting these worms isn't correct (I don't know what the correct way is). Honestly, even after him saying his thoughts I still wanted the worms.


I've seen a couple different ways to take them. One is drinking, and another is putting them on a bandaid and sticking it to your arm. Patients say you can actually feel them digging into your skin and through your body (not painful, but ticklish). Once the worms are in your body they go straight to your lungs, at this point you cough them up and then swallow back down the mucus and ta-da they are in your intestines.



Some people use websites, others actually go to Mexico and see doctors there for the worms, and some even go harvest the worms themselves!! Personally, I think I'm going to wait a while to attempt to get mine.

downgarden
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   Posted 6/14/2010 12:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey!

I ordered my Whipworms from Biomonde in Thailand last week, I will start with the medium dose for 5 weeks.
Acctually the same company that sells to Biomonde will be starting a new test here in Denmark on the Hvidovre hospital later this year with whipworms for Chrons.
Thou I cant wait to get in that test group so I already ordered :)

Their name is Ovamed and they from Germany, Biomonde is just selling the worms.

Herbert Smith
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   Posted 6/14/2010 1:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Why use TSO? It has to be taken every 2 weeks and is much more expensive. Why not just use Trichuris trichiura? One dose every 18 months and it's much cheaper. Also, whipworms are more effective for Ulcerative colitis. I think hookworm are much more effective for Crohn's.

downgarden said...
Hey!

I ordered my Whipworms from Biomonde in Thailand last week, I will start with the medium dose for 5 weeks.
Acctually the same company that sells to Biomonde will be starting a new test here in Denmark on the Hvidovre hospital later this year with whipworms for Chrons.
Thou I cant wait to get in that test group so I already ordered :)

Their name is Ovamed and they from Germany, Biomonde is just selling the worms.

downgarden
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Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 74
   Posted 6/14/2010 2:15 PM (GMT -7)   
You are right.

You know where can I get the hookworms from?

Herbert Smith
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   Posted 6/14/2010 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
You can find the list of providers here: opensourcehelminththerapy.org/mediawiki2/index.php?title=Providers

downgarden said...
You are right.

You know where can I get the hookworms from?

NatWell
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   Posted 3/8/2011 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   
still trying to get an answer to a really important question-  Can I eat after taking the TSO worm solution or do I have to wait a while?  Is this taken on an empty stomach or does it matter?  I took the worms 2 hours ago, I wonder when I can eat!!  :)  Anybody?
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