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Sniper
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   Posted 4/29/2010 8:59 PM (GMT -7)   
 I dont know if you guys are watching that massive oil spill going on in the gulf but we are going to have a real mess down here ,, soon. Oil is going to be coming ashore by tonight and the marshs and estuaries of the coast are going to suffer . Louisiana, Mississippi for sure and maybe Florida in the near future. Hurricanes are bad enough , we dont need this ...
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randynoguts
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   Posted 4/29/2010 10:36 PM (GMT -7)   
i still wonder why the heck they dont napalm the oil slicks and set it on fire. it would burn off very quickly as thin and spread out as it is. it would be over in a hour.
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Sniper
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   Posted 4/30/2010 5:33 AM (GMT -7)   
They have burned some Randy but they say the strong winds are stoping them from burning more, plus its pushing it all over. Winds have been strong from the south for days but there is a cool front on the way and they are hoping it will push some back off shore. That would be good for us but if they cant sop it up its going to head more to the east and that means the Florida pan handle. Spring break wont be as nice if it does because that white sand wont be white.
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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 4/30/2010 5:33 AM (GMT -7)   
I think it might be because there is a risk of engulfing ships/other oil platforms when burning in an uncontrolled manner. Plus I think the goal is to stop the oil pump at a much lower level and then burn it off once the valve is shut off.  But it is hard to burn oil that is fathoms under.


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Sniper
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   Posted 4/30/2010 5:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Thats true MMMNAVY . The weather has not been kind to them and the leak is very deep. The military is going to be there today with subs. Coast Guard is saying they have a novel plan but I dont know what it is. There is no valve where the leak is. I dont know how much but usually there is a great deal of pressure blowing oil and natural gas out of a well . Plugging is done with the weight of the well head, thats why they are so large but a broken drill casing that deep will need some ingenuity . Also dont forget that the whole platform has burned and sunk . If the wreckage is on top of the leak , there will be more work to do plus the danger of getting ensnared . There have already been 11 deaths .
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   Posted 4/30/2010 6:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been watching this on the news, but I had no idea it was that close to you. I wish you and your neighbors a lot
of luck. You really don't need this!!!
Vicky

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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 4/30/2010 7:20 AM (GMT -7)   
just a guess I am wondering if they will try some sort of sleeve or cap, but the massive force of the oil coming at them it is going issue.
Good luck submariners and divers!
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CrazyHarry
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   Posted 4/30/2010 4:35 PM (GMT -7)   
i am hearing that they are saying this could be a worse disaster than the exxon valdez spill in alaska. i also heard that shrimpers are suing BP for the spill.
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randynoguts
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   Posted 4/30/2010 7:56 PM (GMT -7)   
well i heard that it could have been terrorism.. that homeland security sent swap teams down to the gulf and that hugo chavez and the iranians did it with a UDT or a missle. i know the swat team thing is true but not about the rest. but why else would they send a swat team unless they had info on some type of attack ?

as for burning, its suppossed to be light sweet crude so it should evaporate pretty good making burning easier and the boats can sail out of the area. what on the surface and getting to the beaches would burn very quickly. but its not good TV like oil soaked birds...
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ozonehole
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   Posted 4/30/2010 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   
The most detailed, intelligent analysis of the situation can be found here:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6407
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Sniper
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   Posted 4/30/2010 9:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Its 5000 barrels per day and stoping it will take 38 days. Thats how long it took to drill it and thats how long the rig next to it will take to redrill down to a point it can be plugged. So says BP rep anyway. I wondered about the swat team too Randy, no idea whats up with that. I dont know if they will ever know what happened though . So far the wind has saved my nic of the woods but that could change. Friend of mine said their lab worked all week on a chemical mix that would work on the spill, with no luck. Lots of ideas are floating around on what to do but right now its just a lot of boats sopping up as much as they can and hoping for the wind to change or at least die down some.
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randynoguts
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   Posted 4/30/2010 10:16 PM (GMT -7)   
ozone... why in the world would we want "detailed and intelligent" when we can make crap up !? ;0)
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Grandpato2
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   Posted 5/1/2010 12:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I guess the consequenses of reducing stress by not watching the news means I'm way behind on this disaster. confused Sorry about the off hand comment yesterday! I had no idea. sad Rob
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Sniper
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   Posted 5/1/2010 6:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Grandpato, no problem. News on TV seems to be always bad. Good things happening in the world just dont make the news. I get most of the info I need from the weather report.
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   Posted 5/1/2010 7:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Thats where i saw it too n i sure am thinking this is scary stuff seriously
so bleeding much damage is being done really
i just hope everyone is safe
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jujub
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   Posted 5/1/2010 7:17 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been wondering if they could do what they used to do with onshore wells that were burning. They used to (maybe still do, I don't know) dynamite them to implode the well and stop the flow.

MMMNAVY
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   Posted 5/1/2010 7:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Like I said Good Luck Submariners. They are the best prayer we got right now.
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Sniper
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   Posted 5/2/2010 7:01 AM (GMT -7)   
So far its not looking good. The strong winds have the waves crashing over the booms used to catch the oil and the weather report isn't showing a lull anytime soon. No report on what the subs have found but if the wreckage of the rig is on top of the leak there is no getting to it. BP says they are drilling down to the source to plug it but that will take over 30 days and right now there is no real way to know how big the leaks are. More than they had thought in the begining. I am concerned with what chemicals are being sprayed to disperse the oil too. I know hind sight is 20/20 but this could have been prevented with the use of a valve that is available and being used in all other countries but they did not have one because it cost a million dollors. Pocket change compaired to what this is going to cost . I'm too old and decrepit to volunteer like so many have, putting down booms and cleaning birds and animals but I wish I could . How do you wash a pelican anyhow ? Dawn dish soap is the choice I am told. I best head down to Wally World before the oil gets here. With all the critters in my back yard bayou, I'm going to need some Turtle wax...
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nawlinscate
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   Posted 5/2/2010 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
This spill is on its way to being the biggest ecological disaster in US history, following less than five years after the biggest manmade  disaster in US history. We don't need this. Have you seen the lines at all of our seafood restaurants, as people race in to get what may be their last taste of local oysters for a long, long time? Have you seen the meetings of shellshocked fishermen, as they contemplate the loss of their livelihood, possibly for a decade? After five years of fighting back after Katrina, this is too cruel.

There's plenty of blame to be assessed--but right now we have to find some way to stop this underwater gusher and keep the majority of this oil from destroying our already battered wetlands. Pray for Louisiana and the Gulf Coast, folks. We need all the help we can get.

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nawlinscate
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   Posted 5/2/2010 7:41 AM (GMT -7)   
By the way, the valve you're talking about, Sniper, is required in all oil-producing countries--except the US.
 
 

Post Edited By Moderator (MMMNAVY) : 5/2/2010 9:06:43 AM (GMT-6)


Sniper
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   Posted 5/2/2010 9:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Yep , thats true nawlins . I have a real bad feeling about this.
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   Posted 5/3/2010 6:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Keeping you all affected in my thoughts and prayers. This really is bad mess and not what our country needs right now. Hugs!
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   Posted 5/4/2010 4:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Sniper...glad to hear this morning that the winds are helping out right now. It is very hard to weed through what is 24 hour news sensationalism and what is fact living so far from the actual issue. Hope you are never as "slick" as the newscast makes you out to be!
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Sniper
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   Posted 5/4/2010 7:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Habs, the wind indeed has shifted and thats at least some good news for the eastern Louisiana coast and it may give the clean up crews more time before it comes ashore eleswhere. Mississippi may be the next target and they were hit hard by the storms too so they dont need this. Your right about the media coverage. A friend of mine in wildlife management is pulling duty down there now. He told me yesterday that mostly they are having to keep the world media people out of the way. He said that every time a large blob of sea weed or clump of marsh washes ashore the film crews stampede over and film it saying this is oil washing ashore and what a tragic mess this is. Truth is so far we have been somewhat lucky. The disperser is working and the high wave action sort of broke the oil up like a big washing machine. They are close to trying a type of bell structure that will be droped down over the leak so it can be pumped into barges but this has never been done in such deep water before. Fingers crossed for that effort. We are far from out of the woods but maybe there is hope. Time will tell.
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.

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