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fongers06
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   Posted 5/6/2010 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I am sorry if this is a repost, but I am confused about what exactly probiotics are and what they are supposed to do for you?
Diagnosed with Crohns in May 08
Resection in November 08
Currently on Humira, Entocort, Xifaxan, Zoloft, Ritilan SR, B12 injections, Calcium and Vitamin D
Married, mother of 4


Nanners
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   Posted 5/6/2010 9:07 AM (GMT -7)   
We Crohnies tend to have an overabundance of bad bacteria. Taking probiotics helps to add more good bacteria into your intestinal tract to even out the playing field so to speak. Hope that helps.
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Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
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MToronto2
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   Posted 5/6/2010 9:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Probiotics are good bacteria. Our bodies contain both, good and bad. The good's job is to keep the bad in check.

The bad bacteria may or may not cause infection, some of us cut our fingers and do not get infected, some do, with bacteria.

Chances are, if you have IBD, your bacteria, or intestinal flora, is out of balance. So probiotics can help bring the flora back into balance.

I started using long before the medical doctor's came to this realization, and now healthy bacteria is being marketed all the time.

You can get good bacteria cheaply, by going to a health food store and getting a good plain organic yogurt and then using that as your starter for making yogurt yourself (very easy to do, I'm sure you can google a recipe for it or try a SCD website, which I bet will find you all kinds of recipes for making it yourself.

For those who find yogurt as disgusting as sour milk, like me, you can take probiotics in pill from. The price will range from 10 -100 dollars, depending on the type. I find Primal Defense in powder from, so I can regulate how much I take, works best for me. Having said that, I do switch up my brands, as each use different compilations of probiotics. A good rule is a multi-spectrum probiotic with types that will survive digestion into the colon.

NOTE: When starting any supplement, start small, every other day if not half doses and work up. With Probiotics you will react, more diarrhea, chillls/sweats, bloating among other effects as the body detoxifies. This will stop, or should, over time, as the good over take the bad.

ProB's are good for every gut, not just sick ones. Our ultra processed and chemically laden food can lead to an imbalance of flora. Guaranteed if you've taken anti biotics your gut will benefit from ProB's. If you have IBD, Probiotics should be part of the daily regimine.

Our bacteria flora, which covers us inside and out is important to keep in balance. It's why we should not use antibacterial soap, as anti biotics and anti bacterials cannot distinguish good bacteria from bad, and kill both. Plan soap and time will be just as effective on the dirt, and will leave the good bacteria alone.

I only buy Probiotics from health food stores, usually they are refrigerated, but Primal Defense is not, which makes it easy to travel with. At home I refrigerate, just cuz I can. It's not cheap though.


I hope this helps :)

BE well,
CD 24 years. Multiple surgeries in past 10 yrs. 4 year Illeostomy. Mesh rejection. Too close to death, twice. Large inscisional hernia. Perpetually underweight. Short bowel syndrom. Have used a variety of complementary medical therapies. Highly recommend Bowen Therapy as the best body work. Take me vites. Started Low Dose Naltrexone March 27, 2010. Got married for the only time 2008. Survive because of the love of good friends, and because I can. Happy to be alive. IBD needs more awareness and more voices willing to speak up. BE well.


DaveF
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   Posted 5/8/2010 8:36 AM (GMT -7)   
I just read a book called the Probiotics Revolution. I think the auther is Huffnegal. He runs the research lab at U of Michigan. This will tell you everthing u want to know. I found it to be a great book and would lighly recommend it. I agree with the previous post and take the same probiotic. Additionally I make a 24 hour probiotic yogurt and eat this all the time.
Let us know if you start and if they help
Take Care
David
 
Diagnosed March 3rd 2010, Kapidex 60mg, Pentasa 3000 mg, D 50,000 (weekly), Probiotics, Probiotic Yougurt, SCD


Grandpato2
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   Posted 5/9/2010 12:20 AM (GMT -7)   
MToroto2 thanks for a great breakdown. As I just started a new probiotc recommended by my GP, you gave me a few tips to impliment. BTW it called Tu-Zen and contains 10 billion live lactobacillus plantarum. It supposedly helps reduce the symptoms of IBS. Fiarly cheap as these things go @ $32 for 30 in Canada. no refrigeration required . I'll try to remember how it goes and post the results if any. Rob
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


MToronto2
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Date Joined Apr 2010
Total Posts : 232
   Posted 5/9/2010 9:10 AM (GMT -7)   
My pleasure Grand,

I'd be curious to find out how it goes.

Remember to start slow and don't get discouraged if there's a change of symptoms... ;)

I'm guessing we're in the same city...?
CD 24 years. Multiple surgeries in past 10 yrs. 4 year Illeostomy. Mesh rejection. Too close to death, twice. Large inscisional hernia. Perpetually underweight. Short bowel syndrom. Have used a variety of complementary medical therapies. Highly recommend Bowen Therapy as the best body work. Take me vites. Started Low Dose Naltrexone March 27, 2010. Got married for the only time 2008. Survive because of the love of good friends, and because I can. Happy to be alive. IBD needs more awareness and more voices willing to speak up. BE well.


Grandpato2
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Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 681
   Posted 5/10/2010 1:14 AM (GMT -7)   
No M I'm lucky I live in Vancouver lol
Male, 54 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk, Entecort, Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


MToronto2
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Date Joined Apr 2010
Total Posts : 232
   Posted 5/10/2010 5:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Awww shucks, let's not get all west-east about it. We both lucky we live in Canada :)
CD 24 years. Multiple surgeries in past 10 yrs. 4 year Illeostomy. Mesh rejection. Too close to death, twice. Large inscisional hernia. Perpetually underweight. Short bowel syndrom. Have used a variety of complementary medical therapies. Highly recommend Bowen Therapy as the best body work. Take me vites. Started Low Dose Naltrexone March 27, 2010. Got married for the only time 2008. Survive because of the love of good friends, and because I can. Happy to be alive. IBD needs more awareness and more voices willing to speak up. BE well.

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