so what if you are on LDN but taking pain killers.. what happens?

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debilitated
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   Posted 5/12/2010 11:02 AM (GMT -7)   
i want to start LDN again but also using percocet for pain,
Male, 22. Diagnosed with Crohn's officially since 2001.. Osteoporosis, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Chronic Anemia.

Medications Used: Remicade, Humira, Cimzia, 6-mp, Pentasa, Flagyl, Prednisone, Zifaxan, Entocort,
TPN (Total Parenteral Nutrition), The whole nine.

Current: Methotrexate Injection, Entocort EC, Vitamin D, Fentanyl 25mcg / 72hrs - Zofran - Folic Acid
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Zanne
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   Posted 5/12/2010 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I am not on LDN nor have I ever been on it, but my understanding is that you will get no benefit from any narcotic pain killer while taking LDN. It was developed as a drug to stop abusers from using alcohol and drugs(?) so it interrupts the receptors that respond to the narcotics. I suppose in theory since we use it at low dose, you might get some benefit of the pain med, but .....
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


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debilitated
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   Posted 5/12/2010 11:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Well if i takw my percocet during the day... It will be out of my system and id take my LDN at night..
Male, 22. Diagnosed with Crohn's officially since 2001.. Osteoporosis, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Chronic Anemia.

Medications Used: Remicade, Humira, Cimzia, 6-mp, Pentasa, Flagyl, Prednisone, Zifaxan, Entocort,
TPN (Total Parenteral Nutrition), The whole nine.

Current: Methotrexate Injection, Entocort EC, Vitamin D, Fentanyl 25mcg / 72hrs - Zofran - Folic Acid
Currently On SSDI


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 5/12/2010 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   
It is all I can do not to ask the obvious question.
You know that LDN and opiates do not mix.
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spookyh
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   Posted 5/12/2010 1:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Although theoretically, the LDN should be out of your system in a few hours, it doesn't seem to be the case for most people. They recommend stopping LDN 1 week before the need for pain meds (like a colonoscopy). And they recommend being off painkillers for a few days before starting LDN.

One other thing, taking both LDN and painkillers has the potential to make you very sick. Some people can get away with drinking a glass of wine now and then, but it's generally recommended not to even do that.
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR, Zyrtec
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, Magnesium, Coconut Oil, Garlic Oil, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


BeeSting
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   Posted 5/12/2010 3:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Taking LDN is leading to a blockage of the same receptor that narcotic pain killers is using. So it's no idea to combine these two at all. There is a lot of other pain reducing pills without narcotics. They are working very good with LDN.

Besides this, LDN is very often leading to a reduction in feeling pain, often from the first day you take it. So you may not need a particular big dose of pain reducing pills at all during the day. I totally understand that having Crohns may lead to a LOT of terrible pain. But try to stay on LDN for a while before you make up your mind to stop using them this time.

LDN is working in almost 50 % of us. LDN works even better if you try to avoid food or liquid triggers. Everybody being sick for a while may know what food that is better and worse for us, so even if you feel good after just a few day on LDN, try to work with your body, not against it. Don't celebrate reduced bathroom visits by eating something really triggering.4

Oh, and, here's two inspiring videos on youtube..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YirTASydo&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA&feature=related

;-)

Post Edited (BeeSting) : 5/12/2010 4:27:08 PM (GMT-6)

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