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craizy_daizy
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   Posted 5/19/2010 9:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I was just skimming through the Crohn's disease article on Wikipedia, as I have been going through a LOT with my disease lately and needed a re-fresher on the basics, and it suggests that hormonal birth control pills could be an environmental factor to developing Crohn's....
Just last week a new surgeon I saw suggested I START chewing tobacco (I don't even smoke it) because he thought it was good for Crohn's, but I googled it and it is supposedly good for UC but NOT Crohn's....

Sorry I had to edit your post due to the following forum rule,

2. No discussion of medical marijuana use.

Post Edited By Moderator (Nanners) : 5/19/2010 10:56:24 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/19/2010 10:03 AM (GMT -7)   
First off sorry I had to edit your post, but rules are rules. But we had a discussion about this not long ago, and I really don't think the BC pills effect Crohns. I actually found more relief using the pill as that time each month would have been heck without them. They really helped me to not suffer so each month. JMHO
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   Posted 5/19/2010 10:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I went to a talk sponsored by the CCFA one time and the doctors (most of whom were my current or former GIs) did say that smoking tobacco seems to help with UC but makes Crohn's worse.  But, they said the other risks associated with smoking outweight the UC benefits. 
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tez25
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   Posted 5/19/2010 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
hi, i just wanted to say that smoking is definately not good for crohns! it makes you as twice as likely to develop the disease. it is protective for UC, but definately not worth it with all of the risk factors associated with smoking!
I'm not sure about the pill, but my GI has never mentioned it to me, nor have i ever read about the pill in a textbook/ website etc. i know that without the pill, my periods would play havoc with my crohn's!!
you never know, hopefully they will make progress with discovering the causes of this disease and maybe they will find that the pill has something to do with it... but i really doubt it and it wouldn't stop me taking the pill!!

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   Posted 5/19/2010 11:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I had simuliar results as Nanners so i do think it does do something
perhaps not for all but i know im one it worked to alleviate sx
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   Posted 5/19/2010 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry, Rider Fan, but it's against forum rules to "flame" non-members (see below).

Thanks for your input, though. - Ivy.

Post Edited By Moderator (ivy6) : 5/19/2010 2:25:09 PM (GMT-6)


craizy_daizy
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   Posted 5/19/2010 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Oops, sorry about the rule break...just thought it was weird that something like that was on Wikipedia, but I guess I've heard that Wikipedia isn't a very reliable source and was curious if someone had read about it anywhere else with more evidence...but I'm guessing not or it would be all over the internet...

And I also believe that this new surgeon I saw is a bit of a moron although, he suggested I get a CT scan before pulling a drain tube (for an abscess three weeks ago) but I took the advice of my preferred surgeon out of town and he told me to have it pulled out after describing the drainage, after 11 days, and now I have it again...or at least something like another abscess. I had a CT yesterday (I've had way too many of those) and it showed what they called *phlegmon or something, like an undefined abscess or just a bit of "stuff" floating around....So, I'm kind of kicking myself for not taking the moron's advice now...
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   Posted 5/19/2010 1:08 PM (GMT -7)   
As for violating forum rules, the above post also violates them:

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4. No posts that attack, insult, "flame", defame, or abuse members or non-members. Respect other members of the community and don’t belittle, make fun off, or insult another member or non-member. Decisions about health and well-being are highly personal, individual choices. "Flaming" and insults, however, will not be tolerated. Agree to disagree. This applies to both the forums and chat.

Post Edited By Moderator (Admin) : 5/19/2010 5:17:26 PM (GMT-6)


ivy6
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   Posted 5/19/2010 1:23 PM (GMT -7)   
GDen, I quite agree. Hold on; will fix :-). Thanks.

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ps. If you ever see a post that bothers you, it might be better to email one of the mods, or send Admin an alert. Sometimes we can miss individual posts like yours, esp if they're buried in a thread.
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   Posted 5/19/2010 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Your surgeon doesn't seem to be completely up to speed on contemporary literature regarding the interaction between tobacco and Crohn's Disease. Also, chewing tobacco has been linked to mouth cancer. I suggest getting a second opinion from a qualified medical professional before pursuing the suggested course of action.

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ivy6
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   Posted 5/19/2010 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Excellent! That's a better way of putting it (and I agree).

Tobacco indeed - what a terrible & dangerous suggestion. *sigh*

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   Posted 5/19/2010 5:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Generally, we tend to stay towards those recent articles from academic research journals, simply because it is usually more valid info.
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   Posted 5/19/2010 11:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Wikipedia is not a reliable source at all because anyone can put that information on there. While it can be helpful for basic info, you can not cite the information for school reports for a reason. Tabacco used to be something that was thought to help the stomach back in the old days but now we know about cancer. Chewing tabacco is actually worse on your body than regular smoking because it goes directly into your bloodstream. The fiberglass shards alone in it are bad enough but then you add in the tabacco and side effects from it.
I have never heard about the birthcontrol arguement but it would not make sense since males develop the disease too. I can assure you that I have never handled or taken birth control in my life unless it was by accident when i was trying to get a mint out of my wife's purse. I can see how it may trigger a flare in someone that already has the disease due to fact it does change the hormone levels in a women.
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