No! No! Teva Will Stop Manufacturing Propofol!!!!!

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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/3/2010 9:42 AM (GMT -7)   
From EndoNurse:
"Teva Pharmaceuticals announced today that it will stop manufacturing the anesthetic propofol."
 
These freaking lawyers go looking for the deepest pockets rather than for truth and justice. The issue boils down to how a since closed endoscopy clinic’s staff used single-use vials for more than one patient, leading to the infection of hepatitis C of others.
 
The Southern Nevada Health District found that as many as 63,000 patients could have been exposed to infection through reuse of propofol vials and syringes.
 
“It’s a shared responsibility,” a plaintiff attorney said of the hepatitis outbreak. “If Teva hadn’t shared the 50-milliliter vials with the Endoscopy Center, the temptation wouldn’t have been there to reuse the vials.” Plaintiff attorneys are left to question why the clinics even needed or were sold 50-milliliter vials.

Teva is part of a massive company, Israeli-based Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, with deep pockets. Teva Pharmaceutical, one of the world’s largest manufacturers of generic drugs.  


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dunny2
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   Posted 6/3/2010 9:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Well if that happens, I won't have any more tests done. Profofol is the only thing I trust...
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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/3/2010 10:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Teva isn't the only manufacturer of propofol, but that certainly explains why the shortage of propofol we've been reading about.
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   Posted 6/3/2010 10:10 AM (GMT -7)   

I live here in Vegas where this lawsuit happened and I didn't agree with it AT ALL! It is NOT the drug companies fault that the center used the vials more than once. In all reality, it would be OK to use them multiple times as long as a fresh sterile needle was used each time. This endoscopy center was reusing needles which is how several people came down with Hep C. Sue the Dr, staff and the center, but it was not the drug companies fault.

If you want to sue them for something, go after them for blocking treatments and drugs that are more natural, but would not make them any money.


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JonJon
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   Posted 6/3/2010 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I bet if you get ahold of Michael Jackson's doc, he has this stuff stored away....sorry about the humor.

I have been sedated many times for rectal abscesses but I never have been on propofol. Versed (sp) is what I get.......
 
 
                            
 
 
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grumpygi
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   Posted 6/3/2010 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
No worries, other great meds out there with adequate combinations to achieve the same effect.
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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/3/2010 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey, grumpygi!!! Such as ... ????
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randynoguts
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   Posted 6/4/2010 12:43 AM (GMT -7)   
jonjon, dang it you stole my thunder! ;0).. and i thought Teva only made mandals? ;0)
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dunny2
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   Posted 6/4/2010 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah grumpygi, I'd like to know what meds too. I'm totally resistant to versed. I can sit up and have a full
conversation, probably do garden work as well!!
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and lupus.
B12 Shots bi-weekly

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MayOK
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   Posted 6/4/2010 10:44 AM (GMT -7)   
That's what my doc uses for scopes...man, this sucks. it is such nice sleep. :) b/c i do not want to be feeling any of that stuff going on!

Becky77
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   Posted 6/4/2010 2:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Another med used for light sedation is Diprivan. Patients tend to twitch more in their sleep when it's used, but it works the same. I've seen it used for patients that have to be sedated for MRI's. The twitching is an issue during an MRI, but wouldn't be so much for a scope.
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   Posted 6/4/2010 2:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Diprivan is what my doc uses on me and its like, count backwords from 100----99-------------------- the lights or on but no one is home.....No drugy feeling when you wake up either. The first time I had a scope he used it on me and when I woke , I didn't know that was air I was holding. I told the nurse I had to go to the restroom and she said I couldn't ,,,I said Oh yeah, watch me and off the bed and down the hall I went. I was not dizzy or wobbly at all, in fact, if I had not sounded like an Evinrude (brrrrrrrrt brrrrrrrrrrt brrrt ) all the way to the restroom,,, no one would have known. I didn't care that my fanny was exposed , I was NOT going to blast away in front of the nurse. By the way she was not happy with me.....
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dunny2
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   Posted 6/4/2010 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I hate to break this to you guys, but deprivan or deprivera is profofol. I guess it's a generic. I googled it!!
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and lupus.
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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/4/2010 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Yep, diprivan is propofol - or if you prefer - propofol is diprivan.
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Becky77
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   Posted 6/4/2010 7:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I meant to put brevital (this is the one I was thinking of that makes you twitch) I was trying to think of med names and they all got switched up in my mind.

I know they use it at children's hospitals, but not sure if it's used for adults, though I would think it would be, just in a larger amount. It's also used when you have an egg allergy.
Becky

32 yr old female-dx with Crohn's in '97 after emergency resection and appendectomy, 2nd resection '05, Bilateral pulmonary emboli 10/09
Currently on Humira, Omeprazole, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D
Coumadin stopped 3/15/10!!!!


Sniper
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   Posted 6/4/2010 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   
As Emily Litilda would have said,,,," Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Never mind ."
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


randynoguts
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   Posted 6/5/2010 2:10 AM (GMT -7)   
sniper... isnt brrrrrtttt brrrrrrtttt the sound of an old BIG Johnson? and not a evinrude?
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/5/2010 6:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Randy, depends on how clear the carbs were. Plus , I had just had something stuck in the exhaust ..
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grumpygi
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   Posted 6/5/2010 7:40 PM (GMT -7)   
CrohnieToo: Sorry about the delay in response (although the thread has made me laugh)

Frequently used medications for procedural sedation and analgesia: benzodiazepines (ie midazolam -versed or Lorazepam (Ativan) in combination with opiates such as fentanyl or morphine. Ketamine is used in the pediatric population more than adults due to emergence delirium but this can be controlled with short acting barbiturates.

Propofol as been well discussed already, but there is exploration with non pharmacological therapies such as music therapy, nitrous oxide therapy.

Procedural goals are use of products to decrease awareness that is triaged to the physical status classification system. The anesthesiologist/CRNA classifies a patient in categories I-V based on severity of systemic diseases and medicates accordingly.

Here's a nice chart: http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/e-learning/drugchart_sedadult.pdf

Hope this helps.
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dunny2
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   Posted 6/6/2010 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Mmmmm, I was wondering about your name. Are you a grumpy GI, or do you have a grumpygi? LOL
Vicky

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Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and lupus.
B12 Shots bi-weekly

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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/6/2010 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you, GrumpyGI. Its the decreased awareness that I HATE!!! At least propofol reduces the time period of lack of awareness and allows immediate clarity of thought when its use is stopped. I prefer just plain, honest pain control and no reduction in awareness or clarity of thought, thank you.
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grumpygi
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   Posted 6/7/2010 3:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Dunny2: My GI is grumpy-and as a novice in this disease process was mulling over firing his backside (see . . said that sooo nice . . .) but last week he was actually friendly and responsive. (The GI dude drew IBD labs and didn't call or return calls with results-I hunted them down through my PCP the information management specialist!).  My humor is kinda wry, like diet pepsi with a twist of lime! So Gumpi GI is one of the nicer names I could come up with!

ChronieToo: maybe you could ask for a Valium or Xanax before leaving your house for a procedure. By the time you get in nothing would much matter! Although legally signing something might be a bit sporting, as well as some of your answers. . . . but hey, entertaining for the staff.


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Post Edited (grumpygi) : 6/7/2010 5:04:48 PM (GMT-6)


dunny2
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   Posted 6/7/2010 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey< I thinks it's a great name!!!
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and lupus.
B12 Shots bi-weekly

Laughter is the brush that sweeps the cobwebs from our hearts...


grumpygi
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   Posted 6/7/2010 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I shoulda left ya all guessing!  But maybe the best answer is both!
 
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dunny2
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   Posted 6/7/2010 4:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Ohhhhh! Now you got me thinking:)
Re; you're other post, I'm a;ways waiting for calls, but I have to say it's not the DR, just his awful staff and
the way this big hospital is run. Sigh!!
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and lupus.
B12 Shots bi-weekly

Laughter is the brush that sweeps the cobwebs from our hearts...

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