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Sniper
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   Posted 6/4/2010 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
 Last night as I sat out on the back porch I noticed a small toad sitting on our stoop obviously waiting for some unsupecting bug to come along and provide a meal. We have a bumper crop of june bugs this year and they come to the porch light so, I picked one up and tossed it over near the toad. He gobbled it up so fast my eyes never saw the action so i found another , a nice fat one,  and tossed it to him. Again it was gone in a flash. After the fourth one he stopped eating what I tossed near by and seemed to be in some discomfort. Then he picked up his back foot and placed it on the side of his fat little belly and pushed in and around for a while as if rearranging what was inside. That made me think. I also do this when in pain or discomfort. Pushing on the spot that hurts sometimes helps. I dont know why , perhaps it helps move the gas about or on down the line but for whatever reason, I try it no matter what the results. Of course it does not always work. I was wondering if anyone else does this? If its some natural response to mash on ones gut when it hurts? I'm not talking about a soft rub like on a sore musle but a good mash like your trying to push the pain out or away. confused
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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/4/2010 7:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I never got rough w/my gut, but, yeah, I would "walk" my fingers around my gut, especially if I could feel a "lump" and encourage it to move on. Usually a few massages like that letting my fingers do the walking would start some gurgling and some moving thru of whatever it was, gas, chyme, whatever. See, I'm as smart as that toad!!!!
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/4/2010 7:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks C2, I was begining to think I was a dumb frog...
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Becky77
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   Posted 6/4/2010 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I do that too...if you rub your belly from right to left in a circle, it's supposed to help. A friend who's a massage therapist told me to rub my belly more often...I don't do it unless I'm not feeling well though.

Also, if you rub in little circles just under your ribs, it helps get rid of hiccups. (you have to push a little harder though)

Smart lil toad you have there, sniper!
Becky

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pouzel
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   Posted 6/4/2010 10:21 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL ... yes, we are a bunch of toads I guess... but it works ;)

randynoguts
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   Posted 6/5/2010 2:04 AM (GMT -7)   
i used to push very had where i hurt.. dont hurt much anymore. nothin' left to hurt i suppose.. and when my butt hurts ya cant really push there unless you wanting to go to jail or somthin' especially in public... many a night i layed in bed curled up with my fist in my gut. or on my stomach with a fist underneath. seemed to help. and it kept me from hitting the wall.
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/5/2010 6:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Randy you can learn from the frog when it comes to your butt hurting but you still may get arrested . My dear old mom had a saying whenever I would say anything about , If , She would say , it dont help to if, if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his butt . But he still bumps his butt .
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Nanners
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   Posted 6/5/2010 7:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh yeah add another masher to the group. I think I have an adhesion on my right side, and when I am having a bad gut day I will push on that area to try to get some relief. I guess we are all part frog:)

And Sniper I love your Mom's saying. I loved all the little cliche comments my southern belle Mom used to say. I bet if my siblings and I got together we could come up with tons of them:)
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newfoundsun
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   Posted 6/5/2010 7:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the *humor* this morning Sniper!  I know it's not a laughing matter when we hurt, but I just love the way you put things.  It puts a smile on my face when I read it.  :)
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/5/2010 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Newfoundson, Like Nanner says, us southern folks have a way of looking at things and saying things thats unique . maybe a book of southern sayings would be fun , but I'm not sure anyone else would get it. Well hush my mouth . When I was a child and would get a cut or scrape my aunt would put kerosine on the wound. Yep the kind you burn in a lamp and it also burned like fire on a cut. The tears would flow and she would put her hands on her hips and say, " You gonna blow it ,,or cry ? " Theres more to that saying than just the words.
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


rovin1959
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   Posted 6/5/2010 11:11 AM (GMT -7)   
"Bless your heart",is a southern saying. I want to tell them, my heart is fine,my butt is not. Thanks for the smile Sniper!  

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   Posted 6/5/2010 11:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I always push on my gut where it hurts. It seems to help, somehow. I have a really large cat who loves to knead. I try to position her right where my gut hurts to get a little massage out of it! ;-)
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cutie
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   Posted 6/5/2010 2:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Yep, I do it!!!! I guess I'm a toad too!!! Sniper, you always make me laugh!
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Celey
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   Posted 6/5/2010 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm very careful about touching my belly when I'm hurting because pushing on it can really hurt... I do rub it very gently... but it doesn't really do much to help the pain... It does kinda make me feel better... comforted, I suppose...
I think I am being picked on by life, sometimes. But's that okay. Life and I are good buddies... I know life doesn't mean no harm. It just is the way it is. I can accept that.


crohnielass
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   Posted 6/6/2010 3:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah when I had strictures and could feel gas I would push my tummy to try and get it through and get some relief. Bev x
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Grandpato2
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   Posted 6/6/2010 10:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Yup I rub carefully especially when I have gas sometimes it gets it moving. Also when on the toilet waiting for the next bm to hurry up sometime it works. After experimenting I never again will press hard as it triggered cyclical pain for 12 hours, that learned me!
Male, 55 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Entocort, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk,  Imuran and Prednisone in the past.


mdf34
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   Posted 6/7/2010 12:27 AM (GMT -7)   

Yep I apply pressure, but if it was a rough episode my guts feel bruised inside for a day or 2 after and I won't rub at all then.

My contributions to the other part of the discussion..............

Now, Where's my wings so I can quit bumpin my butt?

She's got a pain in her rear, bless her heart!

Would you like a side of grits with that sugarbun?


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HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 6/7/2010 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I am always mushing around on my belly...hubby thinks I am hurting myself more. Then he had a bad gas bubble and realized he does the same thing.

So did you end up with toad stool after the little guy rubbed his belly? and what does toad gas smell like????
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa, cholestyramine, iron and vitamin supplements. 
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/7/2010 2:32 PM (GMT -7)   
MDF, you musta had some breakfast down to the local truck stop . The southern coffee slingers always call you honeybun, sugarbun , sugar or something sweet. It helps the tip.
Habs I didn't have toad stools , just loose ones and and I think frog gas is suppose to smell like molasses, are maybe its mole gas that smells like moleasses. Now all I need is for VV to come along and correct my spelling . Anyway, when I picked up the frog she told me she had a spell put on her and if I kissed her she would turn back into a beautyful princess . When I just put her in my pocket she asked angrily why I didn't kiss her and I told her that at my age I have more use for a talking frog ...
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 6/8/2010 5:27 AM (GMT -7)   
hello my baby. Hello my honey...hello my ragtime girl......brrrrrrap
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa, cholestyramine, iron and vitamin supplements. 
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/8/2010 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, looks like my frog joke ,,,croaked
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 6/8/2010 11:47 AM (GMT -7)   
didn't think anyone would get my reference either
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa, cholestyramine, iron and vitamin supplements. 
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Sniper
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   Posted 6/8/2010 11:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Habs, you forgot to ,Ribbit, before the brrrrap . But then a good ribbitttt cheats you out of a brrrrrap.
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


randynoguts
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   Posted 6/8/2010 7:37 PM (GMT -7)   

Grandpato2
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   Posted 6/8/2010 11:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I get it cause I'm green and ogre mean!!!!!
Male, 55 years old with Crohn's since 15 years old, diagnosed at age 46. Terminal ileum resected 2002. 5 months of remission. Crohn's has now been active since early 2003. Had a gall bladder removed Nov. of 2009. Currently on Remicade every 8 weeks, Nexium, Iron, B-12 injection every 4 weeks,5-asa Asacol, Entocort, Morphine Sulfate as needed for pain. Cymbalta for long term pain control. 5-asa Salofalk,  Imuran and Prednisone in the past.

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