A few questions about the SCD diet

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Jay2
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   Posted 7/2/2010 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi,

 

I would like to give the SCD diet a try. Currently I am on 20 mg of Omeprazole (tablets) and 3 mg of Entocort (capsules) per day. I tried stopping the Omeprazole a few times, and got a terrible and unbearable rebound effect. I get the entocort from Duane Read and the Omeprazole from Costco (Kirkland brand.)

 

Can I start the SCD diet, while still on these medications?

 

I keep on reading about SCD yogurt and a lengthy preparation process. The limit of my food preparing skills is maybe…toast.

 

Is it possible to buy SCD yogurt somewhere? Are there any kosher brands?

 

Are there any manufactured shakes, like Ensure, that are SCD Legal? I love Ensure, especially Vanilla.

 

Can I drink coffee when starting the diet? I am a long-time coffee addict, and will not be able to function at work without at least one cup per day.

 

Does the SCD diet work for Acid Reflux too? I have both mild Crohns and bad Acid Reflux.

 

I ordered the book, and received it yesterday.

 

The problem is that it is huge, and I was hoping to start the diet immediately.

 

Fortunately, I should have some time to read this weekend, so there is some hope.

 

Still it would be great if there were cliff notes or a quick-start guide for this diet. I just need to know what I can eat and where I can buy it; preferably ready-made.

 

I am sure most of these questions are answered in the book, and I will start reading it this weekend. However, I am eager to start the diet right away, so any help would be appreciated.

 

Thank you so much,

 

Jay

 

PS. Does this diet work? I saw a list of legal and illegal foods. Aren’t we supposed to avoid nuts and food with seeds, due to risk of blockages etc.?


DaveF
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   Posted 7/2/2010 9:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Jay
I have been on the diet for about 3 or 4 months so there are many that know way more than me. BUt I can talk to a few of your questions.
1) SCD yogurt is supper easy to make. You need to buy something to make the yogurt in. I use the yogourmet brand, others use dehderaytors. Then you ned to decide on a starter. I read on a site where the best for SCD id GI PRo Health so this is what I am using. Others will have a differnt opinion though. Anyhow the prep for the yogurt will take about 20 minutes. Then you put it into the maker and come back in 24 hours. It is tart so you might have ot get used to it. I did not like it at first but now LOVE it.
2) I drink coffee also, This is my weakness. I am addicted also.
3) I am for sure feeling better, but am still going up and down. Others have said it might take months of fanitcal compliance and I am being fanitically compliant (excepet for the coffee).

This is hotly debated subject here. Some swear by it, others say it is a waste of time. There are alernatives such as Makers and Low res. For me, I am happy with my choice. I hope you figure out the best for you. Please let us know
Take Care
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Symptoms since I was 15 (now 50), 2 “definitive” IBS diagnoses but no treatment except “eat more broccoli, you are not getting enough roughage"..lol, CD in small bowel diagnoses with Pill Cam 06/2010, Kapidex 60mg, Prednisone 30 mg (tapering down over the next couple of months), Pentasa 4,000 mg, Amitripyline 10 mg, SCD, Freeda  - Multi Vitamin  & 2000 UI D3,  Melatonin 9mg


jpnutritionfirst
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   Posted 7/2/2010 9:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been on SCD for 1 year and 3 months. I think you've made a good decision to give it a try, but I would advise to do it strictly for at least a year. Don't worry about little set backs as these WILL happen during the first year, but your progress will overall be upward. I didn't see noticeable results until 4 months in.

Can I start the SCD diet, while still on these medications?
Yes you can. In fact I would get stay on meds until you are in remission and also for at least a 6 months to a year while on the diet. Most people would advise that you don't get off the meds. This is a decision for you to make as far as what side effects you are comfortable dealing with. I decided to ditch remicade.


I keep on reading about SCD yogurt and a lengthy preparation process. The limit of my food preparing skills is maybe…toast.
It's true, it takes a lot of prep. Fact of the matter is big problems require big solutions. Usually you can cook a ton of food one day a week and freeze it. I didn't know how to cook either but it's easy to follow recipes. I would recommend buying another recipe book along with BTVC like the one by Raman Prasad or Lucy's Kitchen.

Is it possible to buy SCD yogurt somewhere? Are there any kosher brands?
You can't buy SCD yogurt anywhere. I don't even eat it anymore and just use a probiotic, but most people say the yogurt is the best source of bacteria. It gave me some problems in excess. If you're going to go the yogurt route, I would buy a yogurt maker manufactured by yogurmet and get the lyosan yogurt cultures. These can all be purchased from a website called Lucy's Kitchen.


Are there any manufactured shakes, like Ensure, that are SCD Legal? I love Ensure, especially Vanilla.
Ensure is definitely illegal. I doubt there are any shakes out there that are strictly legal, but a product called Absorb Plus comes close (though it uses maltodextrin as a sweetener). If you want shakes, I would make them yourself. Start with making almond milk (store bought almond milk has illegal ingredients) and adding in bananas/honey/whatever you want. Another good thing that's legal is most of the Lara Bars, but I wouldn't eat these until you are a few months into the diet and you don't have loose stools.


Can I drink coffee when starting the diet? I am a long-time coffee addict, and will not be able to function at work without at least one cup per day.
No coffee, but you can have some basic teas. I don't drink any caffeine. Apparently diet coke is legal at most once a week. I stay away from that too.


Does the SCD diet work for Acid Reflux too? I have both mild Crohns and bad Acid Reflux.
I used to have a little bit of acicd reflux too and it went away. I'm confident it will be helped by this diet too.


Remember, start with the intro diet in the book first. Don't jump to eating stuff like fruits, peanut butter, raisins, etc. You have to wait until you're feeling better before you get to these "advanced" foods. Also, remember no juices from concentrate.
Crohn's Colitis diagnosed 6/08
Organic SCD since 4/09
Remicade from 6/09 to 4/10
Boswellia + Natren's Healthy Trinity probiotic + Cinnamon + Wild Oregano Oil + vitamin D + zinc


spookyh
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   Posted 7/2/2010 4:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Can I drink coffee when starting the diet? I am a long-time coffee addict, and will not be able to function at work without at least one cup per day.

It's recommended to dilute your coffee with half water at the beginning of the diet.


Does the SCD diet work for Acid Reflux too? I have both mild Crohns and bad Acid Reflux.

Yep, I used to have to take Protonix. I've been off it for over a year now. Occasionally I'll get heartburn, but it's uncommon.


The problem is that it is huge, and I was hoping to start the diet immediately.

The majority of the book is recipes, so you'll have it read in no time flat!


PS. Does this diet work? I saw a list of legal and illegal foods. Aren’t we supposed to avoid nuts and food with seeds, due to risk of blockages etc.?

You don't eat nuts and seeds at the beginning of the diet. Cook, peel, and deseed all of your fruit and vegetables. After you have some improvement, you can try adding in almond butter or pecan butter. Nut flour, whole nuts, beans, and raw foods are advanced foods and aren't to be tried until you've healed.

Here are some websites that might help you:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/
http://nomorecrohns.com/default.aspx
http://www.pecanbread.com/
http://scdlifestyle.com/
http://www.scdiet.org/

Good luck, and if you have further questions, just ask yeah
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


Nanners
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   Posted 7/3/2010 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I just want to add one caveat here. You should always consider meds AND diet as complimentary of eachother. Diet will help to control the symptoms but meds will keep the disease under control. JMHO
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Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
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spookyh
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   Posted 7/3/2010 1:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Diet has done a much better job of keeping my disease under control then meds ever did. I'm still taking Pentasa (and started LDN a few months ago), but it wasn't until SCD that my intestines actually started to heal (as evidenced in last colonoscopy). Diet healed my fistulas, and for that alone, I will remain faithful to it for many many years.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


Jay2
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   Posted 7/3/2010 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you all so much.

 

I read the core chapters of “Breaking the Vicious Cycle” today.

 

Aside from the question about nuts and seeds (i.e., strawberries), I was wondering about red meat and fried foods.

 

This diet seems to allow them, where two other IBD diet books I read (“What to Eat with IBD” and “Eating Right for a Bad Gut”) say that they are usually bad for IBD. I am thinking of starting the SCD diet, and also staying away from nuts, fried foods, red meat, and all food with seeds. However, I am worried that there will be very little left to eat.

 

I think that, before I begin, I will try to come up with a week’s worth of food I can eat on a regular basis.

 

Also, thank you for those links. I’ll check them out.

 

Jay


njmom
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   Posted 7/3/2010 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
The best bet is to stick to the diet and not try avoiding so many foods, or you will risk malnutrition. (Plus it's just too hard.) The SCD diet is based on the premise that our bodies have the most trouble digesting dissacharides and polysaccharides - meaning sugar, starches, grains. So, per the SCD diet, it doesn't matter whether you eat red meat. Also, fried foods are OK.
 
Be sure to start out with the introductory version of the SCD diet for the first few days, as it explains in the book.
 
Do you have a stricture? If you don't, then there is no need to worry about blockage.
 
 
 
 

spookyh
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   Posted 7/3/2010 10:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I would suggest trying red meat, and only eliminate it if it bothers you. As for fried foods, they are generally considered more advanced (especially if you use a deep fryer). I'd roast, boil, broil, and bake in the beginning. Then you can try pan frying.

You should be able to handle almond butter and pecan butter before too long, just don't over do it. Peanut butter is advanced, so avoid that for quite awhile. Once you're doing well, try nut flour.

You can deseed fruits/veggies if they bother you. I never bothered to deseed the zucchini, because the seeds were tiny and tender. Some people prefer to scoop them out though. I run cranberries through a food mill, which removes the skins and most of the seeds. You could also run cooked strawberries/raspberries/etc. through a strainer to remove the seeds.

Can you eat dairy? If so, that's great! Yogurt, cheese, and recipes made from them (like cheesecake) have lots of calories. Put butter or coconut oil on your cooked veggies (good ones to start with are zucchini, butternut/acorn/kabocha squash, spinach, green beans). Cooked fruits to start with are apples, pears, peaches. Avocados and ripe bananas can be eaten raw from the get go. Eggs are great, and you can make them many ways (I like deviled eggs). Chicken, turkey, fish (salmon, tuna, cod, tilapia, etc.), beef, and bison are all good meats. You can make jello with plain gelatin and fruit juice.

There really is a lot to eat, and it gets better the longer you've been on the diet. I've been cautious about eating much raw food, even though I've been on the diet awhile. But lately, I've been enjoying sweet cherries and tonight had creamed cucumbers (a favorite even when I was pre-SCD).

Check out some of the SCD recipe sites too. People come up with some really tasty dishes!
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


njmom
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   Posted 7/4/2010 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
In addition to the great tips from Spookyhurst, would like to add my daughter has trouble with peanut butter. But NOT with the peanut butter in the brownies recipe in the Breaking the Vicious Cycle book.

EMom
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   Posted 7/4/2010 9:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jay2! Welcome to the forum!

I just want to encourage you and let you know that we have had great success with the SCD, too! My son has been off all medication for over 2 years now (as recommended by his pediatric GI specialist) and is amazingly healthy. Following this diet has truly been a God-send for us!

As for red meat and fried foods, we are big believers in red meat. I usually purchase a "side" at a time from an independent, small-time farmer. She raises her beef without hormones, antibiotics, steroids, etc., and it is nearly 100% grass-fed.

Fried foods are okay as long as you are not breading them with something illegal. We eat pan-fried, freshwater fish pretty frequently. I use a "breading" of almond flour seasoned with salt, pepper and a few spices that we like. It's really every bit as good as any other breading we've ever used, and 100% SCD legal!!! :-)

You might also enjoy reading "The Maker's Diet" by Jordan Rubin, only to get further perspective on what truly healthy foods can do for us. For instance, I never realized the intestinal healing benefits of coconut oil until I read that book. The book also made me a firm believer in the benefits of juicing!

Best wishes to you!!! Remember, it may take months and months to see measurable results. Don't get discouraged if you have a minor set-back. Blessings to you! smilewinkgrin
Mom to 18 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium, vit. D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Incorporate Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too. Med-free.

Threads discussing diet:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&m=984588
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&m=1533705
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&p=1&m=1262312


crohnskitten
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   Posted 7/4/2010 10:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Just a note on the fried foods. Once I started the SCD and was on it about a month I couldn't eat fried foods any more. The batter most restaurants would use isn't legal anyhow. I'm not in the fanatical category though, I let myself eat non-legal stuff when I eat out, since it simplifies things and I sometimes get an unbearable craving for frozen yogourt. The more closely I follow the diet, the better I feel. I don't really see it as an all or nothing thing, but more as guidelines to follow. I notice corn is the biggest thing I've benefited from dropping, as well as lactose. I was taking lactaid all the time, and while it helped my stomach feels way better now that I've switched to eating lactose free cheeses and limiting my dairy otherwise. I'm all for the red meat though, I usually make a roast on the weekend and put half in the freezer and eat half for the next week, on salads, in wraps and on its own. A nice cheap roast like a bottom round cooked properly can taste as good as steak, IMO. Plus since I'm not able to take iron pills I'm hoping the red meat helps keep my hemoglobin up.

jpnutritionfirst
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   Posted 7/4/2010 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Another thing to keep you motivated is that usually after about 2 years on the diet (or a year of being asymptomatic) you can start to be not as strict with the diet (though most people seem to stay off grains for good).
Crohn's Colitis diagnosed 6/08
Organic SCD since 4/09
Remicade from 6/09 to 4/10
Boswellia + Natren's Healthy Trinity probiotic + Cinnamon + Wild Oregano Oil + vitamin D + zinc


Jay2
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   Posted 7/4/2010 7:01 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you so much, everyone. I have been planning and researching all day, and this morning, I also purchased one pack of this farmer cheese at a local supermarket:

 

 

http://www.allinkosher.com/p-40474-mehadrin-farmers-cheese-1-lb-dairy.aspx

 

I tried it out and was pleasantly surprised that it tasted just like regular cottage cheese, without that wet lumpy looking appearance. Eating it for a few breakfasts should be easy, assuming the dairy part doesn’t bother me.

 

I used to like eggs as a kid, but, after years of hearing how bad they are for you (right or wrong,) I’m semi reluctant to eat them. I have not had them in years, but have a vague recollection of not feeling well the last time I had scrambled eggs. I guess I could give it another try.

 

Anyways, I am off from work tomorrow, so after eating farmer cheese and a hard boiled egg for breakfast, I plan on making a shopping trip to pick up a whole lot of SCD stuff. Hopefully, I'll be able to find most of the products I will be looking for. Certainly I expect to find enough to eat lunch and dinner  :-)  

 

Then, I need to order a yogurt maker and purchase some other hardware.

 

Thanks again,

 

Jay


spookyh
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   Posted 7/4/2010 9:29 PM (GMT -7)   
If eggs by themselves don't work for you, they could still work in recipes (like almond butter brownies & cheesecake). I was just reading about this today.

Glad you like the cheese! You will probably like the SCD cheesecake. Not everybody does, but I find it tasty.

Good luck! Just don't rush things. If you add too many new things at once, and then feel bad, you won't know what caused it.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


njmom
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   Posted 7/5/2010 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Eat all the eggs you want!
 
Eggs got a bad rap because they contain cholesterol, so docs used to warn people not to eat too many because they ASSUMED that consuming cholesterol would raise the cholesterol levels in blood.
 
Recent studies show this is not true...see the links below:
 
 
 
 
 

Jay2
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   Posted 7/5/2010 10:47 AM (GMT -7)   
I am having a harder time finding food for this diet than I thought I would. Everything in the store I visited had stuff added, and it is tough to figure out what is SCD legal and what is not.

For instance, they had Dole Pineapple juice. The label says 100% juice, but also “fortified with A,C, & E.” The ingredients say “Pineapple juice, absorbic acid, vitamin e, vitamin a.” It doesn’t say anything about added sugar, one way or another. Is this SCD legal? I am starting to think, maybe not, as the ingredients say “sugars 22g”

Aside from drinking it, I am not much of a maven on coffee. Are Folgers Coffee singles (bags) considered instant coffee? The ingredients say “A blend of ground and concentrated coffees.”

I may have to go shopping again at a different supermarket, as I have no idea whether some of the stuff I bought is SCD legal

It is probably a tremendous project, but it would be awesome if there was a web site with specific SCD Legal brands for every allowable item. Sort of like what they do for Kosher certification, but for the SCD.

It’s funny but I feel like I am getting burned out, and haven’t even gotten around to actual cooking (haven’t had lunch yet.)

It’s a good thing I have a day off today :)

Jay

cupcakespinkgal
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   Posted 7/5/2010 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck Jay, I wish you the power to not burn out. That is why I was unsuccessful, where I live there were just too many things I couldn't find anywhere, even at my local health food store. So many recipes I wanted to try and I couldn't find all the ingredients, probably because I was pretty sick at the time I was doing it, it was too much for me. I think trying to figure out what to eat was stressing me out!
Diagnosed with Crohn's in 1998, father has UC we were diagnosed at the same age.

Currently on 10 mg Prednisone, 4g Sulfasalzine, VSL#3, Vitamin C, Calcium, Magnesium, D3, Chlorophyll, and LDN. Previously on Remicade, just stopped Humira after 9 months, wasn't working.

No surgeries so far.


spookyh
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   Posted 7/5/2010 1:25 PM (GMT -7)   
The list of legal "ready made" foods is a short one: http://pecanbread.com/p/how/legalfoods1.html

You have to make the bulk of your foods from scratch. Concentrate on simple stuff in the beginning: meat, eggs, fruits, veggies, cheese, yogurt. All of that will be available in a regular grocery store, except perhaps for a legal yogurt starter. You should be able to find Dannon All Natural Plain (the full fat version) at most places though. The Yogourmet starter is available at places like Whole Foods & Sprouts, but I buy it online because it's cheaper.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


Jay2
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   Posted 7/5/2010 2:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you very much.

I just ordered a Yogurt Maker, but it is on 2 week backorder, so there may be a little wait. It will give me time to check out the Dannon Yogurt and Starters, to see if either have kosher certification. Hopefully, one does.

I visited a second supermarket and did a little better.

I could not find Apple Cider, but I did find an interesting Apple Juice that I suspect may be OK.

It is Martinelli's Gold Metal 100% pure Apple Juice.

On the packaging, it says “no additives of any kind.”

Here is a picture:

http://www.martinellis.com/products/juices/jaj025.shtml

It cost $2.50 for a small 25.4 ounce bottle, but if it is SCD legal, then it should be worth it.

What do you folks think?

Jay

spookyh
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   Posted 7/5/2010 3:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Here's a yahoo group that might help you: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KosherSCD/

The Martinelli's is iffy. I know some people use it, but since it isn't refrigerated cider, it doesn't fall under the "legal" parameters. They say apple juice is one of the worst offenders of hidden sugars, regardless of what the label says. If you want to use it, you certainly can give it a try, but be wary and pull it if you aren't getting better.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


Jay2
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   Posted 7/5/2010 3:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you very much.

I just applied for membership at that Yahoo group. I look forward to checking it out.

I just googled Martinelli’s Apple Juice, together with SCD.

I could not find anything definitive, but I did find one person who thought it might be OK:
http://www.comfytummy.com/2009/09/08/martinellis-organic-apple-juice/

I just had a bowl of the intro chicken soup, plus the chicken within, and washed them down with a cup of the Apple Juice. Everything tasted delicious, so I am starting to have hope.

That said, I will monitor how I do with the Martinelli’s Apple Juice.

Jay

Post Edited (Jay2) : 7/5/2010 5:34:39 PM (GMT-6)


DaveF
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   Posted 7/6/2010 3:14 AM (GMT -7)   

Good for you Jay

I have only been on the diet for about 2 months. I still feel a bit like you. A bit over whelmed however as you figure stuff out it for sure gets easier.

Lessons I learned

1) For me, I started eating too much honey and that was not good for me. I tried for a long time to find a natural sweetener, not honey, could not so am using saccharine.

I found the chicken soup was bland until I made the chicken stock referenced in nourishing traditions by Sally fallon (she writes most of the recopies in the Makers Diet referenced by I think Emom in this thread. The soup tastes great using this stock. I did not know if you have one, but I take the soup and blend it and it comes out creamy.

2) I just switched from Yogourmet starter to GI PROgurt. The Yogourmet was tangy or bitter. The GI is sweet. I dripped the GI and put it on home grown tomatoes with bit basil and had the best caprice salad I ever ate. Yummy

3) Switched to Freedas SCD vitamins and vitamin D.

4) Started on a high quality fish oil

5) I cook apples and cinnamon, peaches and freeze in ice cube tray. I add the “ice cubes” in to the yogurt for a great dessert. Some whould add a bit of honey but I do not

All the best to you

Let us know how you are doing, we can all support each other

David

  


Symptoms since I was 15 (now 50), 2 “definitive” IBS diagnoses but no treatment except “eat more broccoli, you are not getting enough roughage"..lol, CD in small bowel diagnoses with Pill Cam 06/2010, Kapidex 60mg, Prednisone 30 mg (tapering down over the next couple of months), Pentasa 4,000 mg, Amitripyline 10 mg, SCD, Freeda  - Multi Vitamin  & 2000 UI D3,  Melatonin 9mg


Jay2
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   Posted 7/6/2010 7:32 AM (GMT -7)   

Thank you.

 

So, I had the chicken soup, soup chicken, pineapple juice, apple juice, farmer cheese, a hardboiled egg and some black tea yesterday.  

 

All was going well until shortly after I went to bed.

 

 I started having little stomach pains that I have not had in a very long time, and I lost over 3 hours of sleep, as a result.

 

Prior to starting the diet, I was drinking a lot of Ensure plus an occasional portion of some very light food. So maybe the problem was having too much solid food at once.

 

Or maybe it was too much acid in the juice and soup carrots.

 

Or maybe it was the Farmer Cheese, as I don’t have dairy often and the Ensure  I used to drink was lactose free.

 

Or maybe the apple juice and/or pineapple juice were not as SCD Legal as I hoped.

 

Or maybe something in the Entocort or Omeprazole is not SCD legal, and is messing things up.

 

There are so many possibilities, that I am unsure how to proceed.

 

Today, I am going to cut out the pineapple and apple juice and see how that goes. It could be that it was just bad Acid.

 

I’m crossing my fingers.

 

Jay


DaveF
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   Posted 7/6/2010 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jay
I made the mistake of going to fast and ran into a bunch of issues. It sounds like you are finding the same. A lesson I learned (and am still learning) is that even if it is legal to go slow and listen to what your gut is telling you. If you have not had many solids I agree with you that it might be this sudden introduction.
Also, think about putting the stuff you are cooking through a blender and even a sieve or food press. Right now, less is more.
For me it has been 100% worth it to push my way through and I hope that you find this works for you.
David

PS - I am not that much ahead of you, so we are kind of learning at the same time and cause I am still very much learning, please take anything I say with my level of experience (not much)

Symptoms since I was 15 (now 50), 2 “definitive” IBS diagnoses but no treatment except “eat more broccoli, you are not getting enough roughage"..lol, CD in small bowel diagnoses with Pill Cam 06/2010, Kapidex 60mg, Prednisone 30 mg (tapering down over the next couple of months), Pentasa 4,000 mg, Amitripyline 10 mg, SCD, Freeda  - Multi Vitamin  & 2000 UI D3,  Melatonin 9mg

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