to wheat or not to wheat

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> ]

chornsguy
Regular Member


Date Joined Jul 2010
Total Posts : 33
   Posted 7/29/2010 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
i hear alot of people cut out wheat products. but what about stuff like whole grain wheat bread and whole grain wheat noodles?  or should i just cut out all wheat products? and does anyone know why wheat messes with e so bad?

MMMNAVY
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 6927
   Posted 7/29/2010 10:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I think it might be worth trying to see if it might just work for you. For some it is an allergy, for others it is how "rough" it is on the system. I am sure there are other issues as well. Thanks to the SCD, while it did not work for me, I found that sourdough bread is much gentler on my intestines then wheat bread or any other that I had tried.
Forum Co-moderator - Crohn's Disease/Thyroid Disorders:_All comments have the caveat contact your local health care provider.

I will find a way or make one. –Phillip Sidney 1554-1586

All that I am and all that I shall ever be, I owe to my Angel Mother.

The Bucket List- Have you found joy in your life?  Has your life brought joy to others?

Make sure your suffering has meaning…


Roni
Veteran Member


Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 2480
   Posted 7/29/2010 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I eat wheat bread if it's sourdough bread. I prefer to eat rice pasta instead of wheat pasta too. I notice a difference in how they make me feel after, especially if i'm really flaring badly.

kazbern
Veteran Member


Date Joined May 2010
Total Posts : 8375
   Posted 7/29/2010 11:26 AM (GMT -7)   
There's a problem with the words you are using. Wheat is a component of every bread, whether it's refined, or whole grain or sourdough or whatever. Gluten free products (are they really bread?) might be made with other grains like quinoa or groats or spelt.

For some people, gluten is a real problem. To eat a gluten free diet, you have to elimate ALL wheat, not just wheat in bread. Wheat gluten appears in a ton of products that are not "bread," like sauces, processed foods, etc.

For some Crohn's patients, whole grains and the complex carbohydrates and fiber they bring are a problem in that irritated intestinal tracts need to work harder to digest these items. A "low residue" diet will include refined flour products, not whole grain products. It feels weird to a lot of us to choose refined grains over whole grains after hearing for the last 20 years that a "healthy diet" includes whole grains. Truely, if you have Crohn's, whole grains are not going to be a good choice some (or a lot) of the time. But this issue has nothing to do with gluten tolerance or intolerance.

MMMNAVY
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 6927
   Posted 7/29/2010 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
kaz I forget that most people do not use rice flour. Plus I like my potato bread.
Forum Co-moderator - Crohn's Disease/Thyroid Disorders:_All comments have the caveat contact your local health care provider.

I will find a way or make one. –Phillip Sidney 1554-1586

All that I am and all that I shall ever be, I owe to my Angel Mother.

The Bucket List- Have you found joy in your life?  Has your life brought joy to others?

Make sure your suffering has meaning…


Roni
Veteran Member


Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 2480
   Posted 7/29/2010 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, gluten free products are really bread. There are lots of grains that don't have gluten and they can almost all make bread.

There are some cultures that don't use any wheat at all and they still have bread and buns and muffins and pasta made with other grains. Flours made from rye, kamut, rice, or the ones you mentioned, kazbern.

I haven't quinoa or spelt. Do they taste good?

kazbern
Veteran Member


Date Joined May 2010
Total Posts : 8375
   Posted 7/29/2010 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Roni and Navy, my sister is gluten free and when I visited her I ate that way as well. She's been bugging me to go gluten free for a long time, but I just don't see the motivation (for me). Frankly, I feel best during Passover, when I'm eating a ridiculous amount of matzoh (completely gut-unfriendly, you'd think, but then strangely I feel better?) and protein. Not so many whole grains during Passover though! We have eated quinoa a few times during that holiday and it's fine but not my favorite (yet).

Thanks for helping me understand how "bread" can include other grains as the source of the dough.

spookyh
Veteran Member


Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 1342
   Posted 7/29/2010 1:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm gluten free (and SCD), and it's helped me quite a lot. I make my baked goods with almond flour.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


MMMNAVY
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 6927
   Posted 7/29/2010 1:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I am not sure if this was the same stuff, but the matza (sp? IDK) that I have had was an unleaven bread that reminds me alot of plain crackers (which actually can be semi-ok with this disease if I eat/drink enough fluid with it).
 
Spooky, where do you get your almond flower?


Forum Co-moderator - Crohn's Disease/Thyroid Disorders:_All comments have the caveat contact your local health care provider.

I will find a way or make one. –Phillip Sidney 1554-1586

All that I am and all that I shall ever be, I owe to my Angel Mother.

The Bucket List- Have you found joy in your life?  Has your life brought joy to others?

Make sure your suffering has meaning…


mkl11
Regular Member


Date Joined Jul 2007
Total Posts : 494
   Posted 7/29/2010 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I do wheat-free, and am usually clear when talking with people that I do not have a gluten allergy. Most people just assume I have Celiac, so I like to the make the distinction. I began wheat-free when my insurance would not approve my Humira for about 6 months. I first noticing that eating white bread, strangely enough, gave me some pain. I began eating only whole grain bread, but eventually that gave me pain, too.

I know I'm not gluten-intolerant (I eat a TON of oats) and while I feel I could tolerate the bread products now (and may even help with my constipation issues), avoiding wheat makes you eat healthier. I can't just pick up any old thing (I also avoid HFCS) and take more care with the food that I could/consume. So in that way it's been most beneficial.
21 y/o, diagnosed 6/2007

Symptoms currently under control with Humira and a wheat-free, processed food-free diet. Beginning to have symptoms of GERD...


spookyh
Veteran Member


Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 1342
   Posted 7/29/2010 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Navy, I get my almond flour from http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/blanchedalmondflour5lb.aspx when they have a good sale. I don't use a lot of almond flour (I mostly make brownies with almond butter), but it works really well for things like pizza crust. I also want to make these cinnamon rolls that everyone has been raving about: http://heal-balance-live.blogspot.com/2009/07/recipe-review-wendys-cinnamon-rolls.html

If you don't mind spending more money, the finest almond flour available is at http://www.scdkitchen.com/flour.html. It's supposed to be the best for making cakes.

Sometimes I use pecan flour as well, which I buy at http://www.sunnylandfarms.com/store/subcategories/Fancy-Pecan-Meal.

Oh, and coconut flour! I haven't used it a lot, but it works really well in the right recipe. I've just been using Bob's Red Mill Coconut Flour, which you can buy at grocery stores that cater to the health food crowd (Whole Foods, Sprouts, etc.). I know a lot of SCDers don't like it though, and get there's at http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/organic_coconut_flour.htm.

I've never purchased from http://www.digestivewellness.com/subcategoryitems-digestive_wellness_scd_legal_food-nut_flours-24-11.html, but they have almond flour, pecan flour, hazelnut flour, cashew flour, brazil nut flour, walnut flour, and coconut flour. It's an SCD specialty store, but shipping can be steep.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
Forum Information
Currently it is Friday, December 02, 2016 11:04 AM (GMT -7)
There are a total of 2,731,687 posts in 300,951 threads.
View Active Threads


Who's Online
This forum has 151123 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, Joyce Apuzzo.
292 Guest(s), 15 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
Purple Tulip, tennisplayer, mtm3461, Xmaslover, Girlie, John75, Starlight*, maria2016, ks1905, ChickenArise, Traveler, 1039smooth, straydog, Graytech, iPoop


Follow HealingWell.com on Facebook  Follow HealingWell.com on Twitter  Follow HealingWell.com on Pinterest
Advertisement
Advertisement

©1996-2016 HealingWell.com LLC  All rights reserved.

Advertise | Privacy Policy & Disclaimer