Gum recession/periodontal disease with Crohns??

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AT1022
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   Posted 7/30/2010 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone experienced any gum recession or periodontal disease since being diagnosed with crohns or colitis?

dunny2
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   Posted 7/31/2010 7:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Unfortunately yes, and steroids doesn't help the situation either!!
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   Posted 7/31/2010 7:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I am with dunny2 Crohns has really messed with my teeth and my bones. Most of my teeth except two have Crohns on them. My dentist and my medical docs have told me I have have really weak bones. I think between the steroids and malabsorption problems we Crohnies have experienced is the cause. Hugs!
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CrohnnieMan
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   Posted 7/31/2010 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Yea, I went from having no cavities to having 4 four. I also have receeding gums. It sucks...
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500mg Pentasa - 3x a day
1,000 I/U Vitamin D3 - 2x a day
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri -1 cap 2x a day
Coromega Omega 3 - 2x a day
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NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 7/31/2010 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
A few years ago a significant part of my gum eroded away on one of my lower front teeth. And on another tooth (one of the canines), the gum looks permanently red and inflamed. Elsewhere I think the gum has receded a bit, but not as badly as on the two teeth I just mentioned. I don't know if it's down to the Crohn's or not. I brush my teeth thoroughly 2x a day, occasionally 3x. That's at least kept any further fillings at bay (I'm ashamed to say I have some from my teenage years), but doesn't cure my gum problems. At least my teeth look white, I suppose. Crooked, but white. But I can't afford orthodontic treatment... >_<

CrohnnieMan
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   Posted 7/31/2010 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
My dentist also said my gums were inflamed. They said it could be due to bad brushing habits on the gums. Which I could agree with and hope its that instead of the Crohns
4mg LDN- 1x a day
500mg Pentasa - 3x a day
1,000 I/U Vitamin D3 - 2x a day
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri -1 cap 2x a day
Coromega Omega 3 - 2x a day
500mg Propolis 2 caps - 2x a day
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Medication prior to taking LDN: 100mg Imuran a day, 1,000mg of Pentasa 4x/day, 3mg of Entocort 3x/day, Librax as needed.

WriterMum
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   Posted 7/31/2010 3:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know for sure, but my feeling is that inflammation and dehydration do not help teeth. Both happen with Crohn's. The hygienists that I have seen are always surprised by the level of recession in my mouth. I am very careful with flossing, brushing etc. so it is not due to my brushing habits.
45 years old. Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's in April 2005. Hiatus hernia diagnosed in 2008. Had Crohn's under control until March last year when I had a major flare up and ended up in hospital. Diagnosis is now CD and IBS. Getting it under control again.
Currently taking: Salofalk 2000 mg, Nexium, Calcium and Vitamin D, Matamucil, Yogurt for probiotics, Salofalk suppositories as needed.

NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 7/31/2010 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Dehydration definitely doesn't help. I took an antidepressant which gave me a dry mouth temporarily as a side-effect. As well as being a horrible feeling in its own right, I was also worried for my teeth as I knew that it increased the risk of gingivitis and tooth decay. You need saliva to help keep your teeth clean, among other things.

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   Posted 7/31/2010 7:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I have to go in every 4 months instead of the normal 6...it DOES make it soooooo much better (less painful and quicker)...it seems that it is more due to Crohn's, but the steroids didn't help either...at least with the steroids it was less painful, but bled more...I have also learned, if I am not feeling well, don't go and see the dentist...my gums will hurt for a much, much longer period...even if I have to cancel and redo in the next week...I'm lucky that my dentist is very understanding (had him since 1989, and he was just out of dental school)...so I can cancel within a day or so...

Oh and talk to your dentist too...they do have things that can help...there is always new info that concerns teeth and disease that even your GI may not be aware...not to mention they can use some stuff to help out in between, and during exams...
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   Posted 7/31/2010 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
ok, that's it, I quit.  Goin back to denial, this is just the last straw and i don't want to know any more! 
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   Posted 7/31/2010 10:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Watch out for the crocodiles while you are there grumpy! lol
 

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   Posted 8/1/2010 3:13 PM (GMT -7)   
There are perscription level mouth washes and mineralizers that in my experience can help with our mouth area. I threw up every day for a couple of years and managed to keep my teeth without black backs (you see this in people who puke to lose weight).
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sgirl
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   Posted 8/1/2010 5:03 PM (GMT -7)   
When I was getting my braces off my Orthodontist mentioned that my gums were receding (especially on my lower front two teeth) and they looked awfully inflamed. This was 6 yrs before my diagnosis. I haven't noticed them get worse so I guess that's a good thing?
Diagnosed with UC in February 2009.
Diagnosed with Crohn's Colitis December 2009.
Flaring since October 2008
Possible Rheumatoid Arthritis

Medication: Pentasa 6x daily, Imuran 50 mg, multivitamin, Vit B12 1 g, omeprazole. Sulfasalazine

yeahbuddy
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   Posted 7/6/2013 4:25 PM (GMT -7)   
ughhh yes! no bueno

theresamarie
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   Posted 7/12/2013 8:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I have six teeth currently that need to have gum transplants on. the news came 8 months prior to my diagnosis.
I have done nothing about it sadly nothing is an exaggeration... I am very gentle and careful. but I cant handle the though of surgery of any sort. when I already feel like I see my surgeon often enough

AT1022
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   Posted 7/12/2013 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Since I originally started this thread... I've had three gum graft surgeries for a total of 7 teeth/grafts... my periodontist was wonderful (he gave me these two pills to take an hour before hand & you don't remember much of anything.) The hardest part was the weeks following & how diligent you are during the healing process with cleaning/brushing plus not chewing in the area for what seems like forever. But my dentist took before & after pictures and I was amazed!! I'm happy with how they healed & it feels so much better now. I didn't realize how bad it really was before until I saw the two pictures next to each other.

A lady I work with her son had gum recession too but they did injection of blood cells into his gums that helped them improve... or at least that's how I interpreted what she was trying to explain.

My advice (for what's worth).... if something needs to be done to improve your oral health, then don't put it off too long - research the options and be proactive about your teeth/gum heath (it's just as important as your gut)!

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   Posted 1/8/2015 11:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I get regular dental cleanings, brush 2xs daily and use a proxy brush and floss daily but my gums have been receding badly. I quit the use of prednisone 4 years ago, and since then they are even worse, so it's the crohn's disease doing it's number because I have had no treatment since I quit. Thank goodness that my teeth seem okay but they are getting so long, due to gum recession so I am worried. I read a anti bacterial mouth wash may help, but to buy the alcohol free one. I still haven't gotten around to it.

dorri
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   Posted 1/8/2015 11:22 PM (GMT -7)   
My dentist says that gum recession happens with colitis but he hasn't heard of it happening with crohn's and blames my recession saying it's familial.

CrohnsPanda
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   Posted 1/9/2015 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Interesting post... Was just informed I will need grafting to repair my receding gums. I've been learning more and more about natural medicine and it seems as though coconut oil & calcium asorbate may help strengthen my gums. I'll let you all know how that works for me! Anyone tried these methods?
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