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bella3250
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   Posted 8/2/2010 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone.  I have crohn's disease and i am currently in between meds.  I was recently taken off methotrexate b/c of lack of theraputic response and was put on azathioprine and allopurinol.  I've only been on it for two days.  Anyway my acid reflux has kicked in with a vengance and I misplaced my nexium perscription.  Im seeing the doc  on wednesday but i cannot swallow and everyhitng makes it burn like hell.  so, what can i take otc until i can get some meds from the doctor.  any suggestions?  thank you.

spookyh
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   Posted 8/2/2010 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you tried baking soda in water?
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

FunGuy
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   Posted 8/2/2010 4:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Rolaids? Meanwhile, don't over eat especially in the PM and stop eating hours before bedtime.
You could call the Dr.'s office for advice
 

Becky77
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   Posted 8/2/2010 5:30 PM (GMT -7)   
My rx ran out for omeprazole and I went and got zegrid, and it isn't working...so I feel your pain. I'm eating the heck out of some tums, and that's helping. I can't wait to get my rx in the mail though!
Becky

32 yr old female-dx with Crohn's in '97 after emergency resection and appendectomy, 2nd resection '05, Bilateral pulmonary emboli 10/09
Currently on Humira, Omeprazole, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D
Coumadin stopped 3/15/10!!!!

spookyh
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   Posted 8/2/2010 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
My "acid reflux" problem turned out to be too little stomach acid, rather then too much. The symptoms are the same, so easy to mistake. When I started taking Betaine HCl with meals, I got rid of the heartburn.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

Becky77
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   Posted 8/2/2010 6:05 PM (GMT -7)   
How did you find out you had too little rather than too much acid?
Becky

32 yr old female-dx with Crohn's in '97 after emergency resection and appendectomy, 2nd resection '05, Bilateral pulmonary emboli 10/09
Currently on Humira, Omeprazole, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D
Coumadin stopped 3/15/10!!!!

bella3250
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   Posted 8/2/2010 8:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Omg, my heartburn in ridiculous. I bought tums but they do absolutely nothing. I'm seeing the doc on wednesday so i will get my rx then for nexium. how do you find out if you have to liitle acid? i've never heard of that before.

spookyh
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   Posted 8/2/2010 10:53 PM (GMT -7)   
There's an official test, which I haven't had, called the Heidelberg Gastric Analysis. You can read a bunch of info about it at http://www.phcapsule.com/ . There's a lot of info there about how the pH of your stomach is very important in digestive health

I would love to have this test, however, I ended up doing things trial and error. I took Zantac and then Protonix for many years (my old GI determined I needed these due to a red spot in my stomach). After I started SCD in December 09, I quit taking them and was fine. But around January this year, I started having episodes of bloating after I ate, feeling like food was just sitting in my stomach, stomach pains, and heartburn. When I saw my new GI, she wanted to start me on acid blockers again, but did an endoscope first. Found a red spot in my stomach again. Since I have hypothyroidism (that my doc won't treat Grrrrrr), and low stomach acid is a symptom of that, I wasn't convinced that too much acid was the problem. I asked my GI if I could try Betaine HCl, and she agreed. It was kind of scary the first time I took it, since I pictured a giant hole burning through my stomach. The first night I took it, my stomach did feel a little warm. I haven't had that warm feeling since then though, and I quit having heartburn. I only take one pill with dinner, because that's the only meal that have meat. I think I might experiment taking more to find my optimal dosage (when you feel a burn, you back down to the last dosage that you felt good with). They say that over time, you can even retrain your stomach to produce more acid, and eventually be able to stop the pills.

But if you could get that Heidelberg test, that would be awesome! You would know exactly how high or low you acid was, and then could medicate accordingly. I also just found this self test that you can do: http://www.drdebe.com/stomach-acid-assessment.html . Looks safe and easy, since you just drink baking soda water and time how long it takes for you to burp (fast burps = high acid, no burps = low acid).

Last but not least, here's a little quiz you can take to find out what your chances are of having low stomach acid: http://altmedicine.about.com/library/weekly/bl_quiz_hypochlorhydria.htm . One thing I found really interesting was it's relation to anemia. If you have low stomach acid, you're body can't properly absorb iron.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

Nanners
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   Posted 8/3/2010 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Many of us have developed either Acid Reflux or GERD related to our Crohns. I take Prilosec and it works well for me. In the meantime, you might try Maalox or maybe something like Zantac or PepcidAC until you see the doc. My thoughts are why not call the doc now, instead of suffering and waiting. Good luck!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease 
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*
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