cure for gas and bloating???

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CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:45 PM (GMT -7)   
i thought this might interest a few here:

i've been dealing with gas and bloating for a while and tried everything to no avail, even left field things like ginger, activated carbon, etc etc. diet changes didnt help too much. i spoke with my naturopath and he said i may not be making enough stomach acid, so he put me on HCL pills and instantly it all went away. i was very happy.

so something to think about if you're experiencing these symptoms to talk to your doc about....
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

Rider Fan
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   Posted 8/9/2010 5:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I had a naturopath put me on betaine as well, but I don't think it did much. I'm glad it's helped you though. Let us know if it remains effective. Lots of people seem to post about this problem and there isn't much you can take for it.
33 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. Proferrin iron pills.

Reduced gluten and dairy.


Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/9/2010 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   
i know. it really blows. i did use betaine for a bit but i did not notice anything, but then i wasnt necessarily taking it for the gas and bloating so i wasnt necessarily paying attention to that to be able to link the two. and i may not have been taking enough or maybe the stuff i am taking is stronger/better. anyhoo, there seems to be something positive working now so i'll take that.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

Rider Fan
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   Posted 8/9/2010 8:11 PM (GMT -7)   
How many grams are you on?
33 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. Proferrin iron pills.

Reduced gluten and dairy.


Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!

spookyh
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   Posted 8/9/2010 8:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Same here! I started having stomach pains after eating (felt like my food was just sitting there). I started taking Betaine HCl a couple weeks ago, and it definitely helps. I'm thinking of upping it to 2 capsules, since I don't get any burning even with a very small meal. My GI agreed to let me try this before she prescribed an acid blocker, but if I hadn't brought up the possibility of a lack of stomach acid, I'd be on a treatment that would have made me worse.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

Nanners
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   Posted 8/10/2010 7:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I already take a PPI (Prilosec). I am assuming you cannot take this HCI with a PPI?
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Rider Fan
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   Posted 8/10/2010 8:47 AM (GMT -7)   
I think it would be counter-productive. If you find the PPI isn't helping maybe you can ask your dr about stopping it and trying Betaine HCL instead?
33 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. Proferrin iron pills.

Reduced gluten and dairy.


Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/10/2010 10:55 AM (GMT -7)   
stomach acid blockers are actually really bad. in most cases, it is misdiagnosed and the patient is prescribed acid blockers instead of HCL pills.

i am using metagest by metagenics. the pills are each 1,300 mg of betaine HCL. i take 2-4 with every meal. the more veggies, the more i take.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

spookyh
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   Posted 8/10/2010 2:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I thought you only increased Betaine HCl when you ate more protein, not vegetables?

I take NOW which has 648mg Betaine HCl and 150mg of Pepsin per capsule.
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/10/2010 9:01 PM (GMT -7)   
heck if i know, but i always suspected it was the fruits and veggies (fiber?) causing it all, but i could not get it a good fix on it. all i know is that this seems to be working...for now...
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

spookyh
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   Posted 8/10/2010 11:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I think the stomach acid causes the pancreas to secrete more enzymes, so perhaps that's why you're digesting produce better. Beats me! But as long as it works for us, I'm happy.

My mom just convinced my dad to try taking Betaine HCl. He always gets nauseous after eating, and no longer craves meat like he used to, both symptoms of too little stomach acid. Took a few months to get through his hard head though ;-).
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

cleo35
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   Posted 8/12/2010 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I can tell you that over indulgence with Pepsi or Coke will cause you problems so if you're in denial about the connection between your gas problems and your addiction to one of these you need to face it :) I had to and let me tell you it's tough - I'm thinking about starting a group for this :) Not kidding!

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/12/2010 5:46 PM (GMT -7)   
interesting....i grew up drinking a lot of soda and i dont remember that happening to me. i havent touched the stuff in a few years so i know soda is not the cause of any of problems. in fact i know i am healthier for ditching it.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

spookyh
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   Posted 8/12/2010 10:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I wonder if it's the surgar, carbonation, or both? I like to have sparkling water with a splash of fruit juice (my SCD pop).
35 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: LDN, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin D, Calcium, CoQ10, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

dorri
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   Posted 8/12/2010 11:00 PM (GMT -7)   
These enzymes are great if your body is lacking them, but those with stomach ulcers and gastritis should be careful because some of the enzymes can aggravate these conditions. Some companies even have a warning written on the label. 
 
My experience with enzymes have been mixed, depending on the formula's and what was in it, it has aggravated the crohn's. 
 
A safer method is to try a little lemon juice or apple cider vinegar which pinch hit for these enzymes, if these disagree with you and cause pain, drink lots of water to flush them out and you probably don't need the extra supplements. 
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