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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   

Ok, bit of a gross question coming up, so be warned J

 

I’ve got Crohn’s colitis and a history of lots of peri-anal disease (fistula, abscess etc).

I have had a fistula laid open and it has healed nicely with remicade.

 

However, the skin tags that I have had for years now, shrunk following the beginning of my remicade treatment.

 

Now, two of the shrunken skin tags seem to have (somehow) ‘fused’ together, and at the end where they seem to be joined, it has gone almost black.

They did bleed a few weeks ago too, but I think this was following a BM.

 

What I am wondering is, has anyone had anything similar happen? When I look ‘back there’ I get a bit shaky, and it hurts, but not terribly like an abscess, its just super-sensitive and a bit raw where it’s black/was bleeding. Also it brings back some horrible memories of having peri-anal disease and pain. I am thinking maybe the tissue is ‘dying’ sort of like a scab, and perhaps will fall off?

I have a colonoscopy a week today so I guess if anything needs doing they will do it at the time?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys,

 


ivy6
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   Posted 8/19/2010 4:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Ow.

I dunno, Phoebe. My medical "expertise" - garnered from watching reruns of All Saints in the afternoons :-) - makes me think that black tissue isn't good, and shouldn't be left a week.

Is there anybody you can call for advice? We have a state-run 24 hr medical help-line in our state: you ring them up, describe your symptoms, and a nurse tells you whether it's ok to leave it for a while, or whether you should call a doctor / go to the hospital. Do you have something like that in Qld? If so, I recommend calling them...
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:06 PM (GMT -7)   

I think we do have something similar in QLD, but I remember (years ago) calling the nurse hotline (when I should really have just gone to ER but I didn’t know at the time) and I was on hold for 45 min L

I could call my specialist’s nurse, but I think she may just say he will check it out when I have my scope…. Perhaps I should put a call through to her and just let her know this has happened and ask if she could put a note on my file for it to be checked out when he does my scope? I don’t know what he could really do about it though, since (as I understand it) interfering with skin-tags is a big no-no…

Hmmm…. Its owchy! I don’t know why it makes me feel shaky, I think its just because it is like nails-on-a-chalkboard kind of feeling sad

 

On a positive note – guess what Ivy? I got a new job on Tuesday, working in the media department at the Qld Gallery of Modern Art! I’m over the moon! Dream job!


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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
WOOHOO PHOEBE!!!!!

Congratulations! I remember you were wondering if you should stay in your present job while doing Hons (how's that going btw?). That's wonderful! I'm so happy for you.

When do you start? How many hrs a week?
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   

Ahh thanks Ivy! I'm absolutely over the moon about it, it really is a dream come true…. Its full-time, a new position… I start on the 13th September. I have deferred my honours until I am settled in my new job so maybe semester 1 2011. I was really unhappy in my current position and wasn’t where I wanted to be, so I went out and grabbed this with both hands and I’m just overjoyed that I have this great opportunity to jump headfirst into, I’m going to give it my all – can’t wait to be passionate about work again!

Timing is good too because I have my balloon dilation / colonoscopy…. I just don’t know what to do about these owchy skin tags…

 

how are you doing?

Post Edited (*Phoebe*) : 8/19/2010 6:30:26 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Phoebe, I'm really glad you deferred Honours. It gives you a chance to get a better handle on life and health, and that's a good thing. I loved my Honours year, but oh! it was stressful, and I wouldn't like to have done it while just recovering from fistulas etc.

I really am happy for you. Full time work! Wow! And in a dream place, too. Well done, Phoebe :-).

Me - up and down. Lots of fatigue, lots of upset gut, etc. Still much better than I was a few years ago, though, so that's good. And I'm sloooowly making progress in sorting out life. Babysteps, eh?

Cryptic question for you - are you concerned about what tomorrow's results will be? 'cos I am. I have a really bad feeling...
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I AM worried ... I mean at first I though we had nothing to worry about, but I'm not so sure now ... if that does happen, and we get that disasterous result, I think I am boycotting the news from now on :)

Oh I'm glad you think I'm making the right choice. I thought I could disregard my frustration with work if uni was my number one priority, but I think focusing on work, which gives me a great sense of achievenement (when I'm working in the right job), will be really great for me at the moment .... I am just so excited, since getting this job (I found out two days ago) I really do have to pinch myself, I feel very fortunate.

That's no good to hear you are having tummy problems... its horrible when you think things are on the up-and-up and then something comes along ... I am a bit worried about the pain I am having sitting now... I think I will call the nurse later and just ask her to flag it up with the Dr before my scope so he can have poke about and see what's what ... in the meantime I will get my sitz bath out of the cupboard and buy some epsom salts...

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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Good. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is concerned. I'm planning on having my usual at-home private party tomorrow and watching Antony Green (who is still swoony, but slightly less so every three years as he ages :-) ) but something tells me I'm going to be pretty depressed by Sunday...

My private opinion is that your frustration with work would only become more intense if you had to cope with Honours as well. Never underestimate how exhausting Hons can be. We had a recently-resigned US Marine break down and CRY in one of our classes because he was so tired, and that was only in May.

I'm no expert, Phoebes, but black = gangrene in my amateur mind. I think definitely call someone.

Ivy.
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes I am not looking forward to the outcome.... I am getting quite scared! Let's see how it goes... holding thumbs! Come on Australia, don't be stupid!

I agree, and the shakiness I am getting when looking at it can't be good either... it might be a matter for my colorectal surgeon though? Hmm... stupid things I wish they would just be normal (though in saying that there's probably no such thing as a normal S.tag eh)

ivy6
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   Posted 8/19/2010 5:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I think you should call someone now, Phoebe. You're getting dangerously close to lunch, and after that there's no guarantee that they're not going to nick off to play golf or whatever this afternoon.
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
yes, true! I called my colo-rectal surgeon's office, but he is away - they recommended I call my specialist … so I have left a message with his nurse. She’s usually pretty good at calling me back so I just hope she’s at work today….

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   Posted 8/19/2010 6:17 PM (GMT -7)   
That's good, Phoebe. I hope she returns your call.

Amazing how these things always happen on or close to a weekend, isn't it?
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 6:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I was just thinking the same thing! Lucky I don't have anything planned ... but I also very much dislike not knowing what's going on 'back/down there'... hmm....

I'll let you know if she gets back to me ... I hope she does! I have a remicade infusion 1st thing monday morning it would be great if I could get in to see someone then...

*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/19/2010 11:11 PM (GMT -7)   
anyone else had a similar issue??

grayeyedblonde
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   Posted 8/20/2010 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
This is just our experience, and you can take it with a grain of salt and should get checked out, but...
 
 My teenage son had a skin tag in his armpit area for years. A couple of months ago he came and showed it to me, it was turning black and freaking him out, he thought it might be getting cancerous. We kept an eye on it and one day it just fell off. I googled 'skin tag turning black' ( I love google!) and found basically the same information. Here is one answer I found on medhelp.org... 
 
Skin tags often turn black <script>hover_boxes.hoverize_link('term_1539605_1', 'highlight_term')</script> when they get rubbed or twisted and lose their =adlinkMouseOver(event,this,5); onmouseout=adlinkMouseOut(event,this,5); onclick=adlinkMouseClick(event,this,5); href="#" target=_top jQuery1282321310234="4">blood supply .  Sometimes this happens even without any remembered trauma.  I certainly would see the doctor to be sure, but don't be surprised if the whole things doesn't just die and fall off before you get there.  Happens all the time. 
 
I would still have it looked at as you said 2 have kinda fused together, but skin tags are pretty benign and not much to worry about.
 
Good luck!
 
Also, congratulations and good luck with your new job also!
 
 
Dx'd w/ Crohn's in 1979 at age 13. Bad flare 2008 but no health insurance so I dealt with it. Colonoscopy in July 2009 caused a perforated colon, emergency bowel resection. 2 fistula's, perianal and perivaginal.

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   Posted 8/21/2010 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   
perianal crohn's skin tags are nothing at all like regular skin tags (found in armpits, between thighs, ect) the crohn's skin tags are diseased tissue, the regular ones are caused by skin rubbing against skin (friction) completely different. I too have perianal crohn's skin tags, it's actually how my crohn's started...I once also noticed what I though was blackish colour (while I was pregnant with my second child actually) so I had my GI at the time take a look, he said it looked like I had a bit of a hemmie mixed in there amongst the anal skin tags and to just keep an eye on it...you should see your doc asap just to be safe, it may be nothing, but it could be something.
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 8/22/2010 2:58 AM (GMT -7)   

Thank you so much for your replies everyone. It has really set my mind at ease. I have not yet heard from the nurse, but they are not hurting as much today, and I am hoping it is a natural process, this dying off of old dead skin cells.

Looking on the bright side, it would be great if they fell off!

I have a remicade infusion at 7am tomorrow morning and the nurse mentioned perhaps sending a resident Doctor down to check them out... so we shall see... either way I also have this colonoscopy on friday so he will be looking around that area then....

again, thank you for the support everyone :) I shall see how it all turns out...

 


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   Posted 8/23/2010 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   

A little update (for anyone who might be interested!)

The black bits, they came off! Literally fell off when I wasn't looking!

Great news for me! Yay! Here I was already freaking out that I would start a new job and have health issues. What a relief!


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   Posted 8/23/2010 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Excellent news, Phoebe!

How was your infusion?
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   Posted 8/23/2010 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   

It was good, leaves me feeling pretty sleepy, but the nurses now know I prefer a bed to a chair, so I am lucky, I get in early, start my IV by 8am and doze for most of the infusion. Always bring my novel but rarely read it J

For some reason I do find infusion days quite lonely though! And I don’t like paying $20 for hospital parking! But other than those whingey issues, it went well… oh and my neighbours were so noisy I couldn’t sleep when I got home! Wah wah wah … really I am very lucky to have access to this fantastic treatment.

Now I just have to knock over the colonoscopy / balloon dilation on Friday!


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   Posted 8/23/2010 7:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a skin tag, first time ever so I'm glad to hear yours has sorted itself out. It gives me some hope yet! Is your infusion covered under the PBS? I'm in the process of qualifying for Humira, and I've seen talk about the Liberals making changes to the PBS - I couldn't afford the Humira without assistance. And $20 for parking?? That's criminal! I only pay $5!
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   Posted 8/23/2010 8:56 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Claudine! My remicade is covered under PBS, because I go through a major teaching/research hospital, I am extremely lucky in that way… Argh just another reason to hate the liberals! I hated them already, I’ll despise them if they do that!

$20 for parking is the worst! And I have to pay it again this Friday because I have a colonoscopy! Ridiculous, isn’t it!? At least the scope is bulk-billed, and my remi costs $33.30, so $50 every 8 weeks for health is a pretty good deal J


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   Posted 8/23/2010 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Whoa. What? I heard Julia Gillard saying that TA wanted to change the PBS, but didn't follow up on it and look for details.

Is he wanting to up the price for specialised meds, or all meds?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
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   Posted 8/23/2010 9:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I wish I could swear on these boards sometimes!
Here's hoping Australia sees sense!

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   Posted 8/24/2010 4:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I also go through a major public/teaching hospital here in Sydney. This is the first time though, before this I was seeing a private GI so I'm new to the whole PBS thing.

I just check the policies that the Liberals are wanting to bring in in terms of Healthcare, and there is nothing about making changes to the PBS so I'd say it's most likely just Labor trying to scare people. With the way the Government is at the moment, no one is going to be able to make any changes or bring in any policies unless everyone, especially the independants, agree. So I take what any Politician says with a grain of salt.
39yr old Single Mum of 3 Girls living in Sydney, Australia. Diagnosed with Crohn's April 2009 after suffering for over 20 years.


Current meds: 6mp 150mg, Salofalk granules, somac, panadol osteo.

Failed: Vendolizumab clinical trial. Back on predisone, down to 15mg.
Starting Humira in (hopefully) 2 weeks!
Also dx with Spondyloarthritis of the sacroiliac joints and psoriasis. Now suffering from steroid induced diabetes (again)
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