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Lizard99
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   Posted 8/30/2010 9:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello all,
 
So I'm going to go see a naturopath. it's quite expensive though.  I'm hestisant based on the price and don't know how much help it will be. has anyone been to one before? any tips/advice on what to ask?

Roni
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   Posted 8/30/2010 9:30 AM (GMT -7)   
I went once. It can help, but the guy I saw acted very strange. LOL.
What I recommend is that you research as much as possible the treatments and diagnostic methods. Make sure they don't interfere with other treatment. If you get put on homeopathic meds, be checked regularly by your regular doctor too.

Let us know how things go!

Post Edited (Roni) : 8/30/2010 10:38:23 AM (GMT-6)


Lizard99
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   Posted 9/2/2010 4:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for your input.  So I went and saw a naturopath/homeopath today.  Well, I'm very disappointed, not that it won't work for people, gave me the complete willies.  Bad vibes for sure, he mentioned he's going to make me a "remedy" after asking a bunch of off the wall questions, like the position I sleep in and do I cover myself completely? Too weird for me.  Just thought I would update everyone.  Not trying to discourage anyone at all, just sharing my experience and opinion.
 
Happy healing everyone. With everything there is always hope.

Roni
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   Posted 9/2/2010 5:12 PM (GMT -7)   
We must have seen the same guy. lol
I'm sure there are some other naturopaths who are more normal though.

Lizard99
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   Posted 9/2/2010 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   
exactly Roni! he he, there has to be better one's out there! I don't judge but the one I had was not helpful at all, in anyway shape or form which made me very sketchy about trying his "remedy".  If  I got the willies when he said it there's no way I'm putting it into my body;  if there is one thing I've learned from the DD is that you must follow your gut! he he, pun intended!

vixen
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   Posted 9/3/2010 3:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Lol, that gave me a much needed laugh this morning. I think they ask all sorts of bizzare questions becasue they don't just look at the disease but at your whole lifestyle(which can leave you feeling a little puzzled)

Nanners
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   Posted 9/3/2010 7:26 AM (GMT -7)   
I went and met with a naturpath recently and was very unimpressed too. She was having me hold me fingers a certain way, then holding some minerals on my chest and was telling me I was low on this or high on that. At least mine was only a free consult and that I didn't waste money on this crap. JMHO
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease 
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

comedybob
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   Posted 9/3/2010 10:00 AM (GMT -7)   
My experience with the Naturopath is much like alot of people. he sold my wife a concoction to be given in "micro-doses". she is much more trusting than I. when I called and asked what was in the potion, he said he didn't really know, but that there wasn't enough of anything to be harmful. if there isn't enough to be harmful, I figure there isn't enough to do any good either. we now see a Doctor who, although a licenced MD,  believes in alot of environmental causes and treatments. As much as he wanted us to go with diet and environment, he understood our position and was willing to try LDN. 21/2 weeks in, things are on the plus side.
bob b
13 year old son diagnosed at 9,
one month of pred at beginning
2 years of immuran ineffective
he has plateaued again at 67 lbs(up from 58 in January'10)
Started LDN on Aug 16th, hopeful

considering Remicade

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 9/4/2010 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
i like my naturopath and he's been able to help me. i know, it is expensive and that sucks.

most meds didnt work for me at all but i took them cos it was from a western doctor whom we are told to have faith in. so in fact, this is really no different. you are using "ancient" forms of medicine instead of pharmaceuticals. by ancient i mean as recent as the early 20th century before we could synthesize a lot of stuff and pharmacology took off.

like a lot of drugs prescribed for us, they make time to work or you may notice no change. the problem is that it is a lot more expensive because no insurance will cover it (lame).

the oddest questions i've ever been asked were from my acupuncturist. that was off the wall goofy, but i stuck it out and i am glad i did cos she's been a great help to me over the years (not necessarily crohn's related). i am sure if i had her same schooling the reason for these questions would make a lot of sense and i'd understand their necessity in being asked. it makes sense to me, in a way - why just ask me about my health history and that of family members? i answer "no" on every box/question given but yet i need a doctor. so perhaps they are not asking the right questions to give me a proper diagnosis and treatment???

nanners -
what you did was muscle reflex testing, or something like that. i know it sounds hokey but i havent looked into it enough to rule it out. there are things similar to this which do work.

comedybob -
just like your regular doctor, if the naturopath doesnt know what he's giving you, you need a new doctor.

newfoundsun
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   Posted 9/5/2010 4:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been seeing a Naturopath since shortly after my diagnosis.  I researched the people in my area, and went with this Dr. with a great reputation in the big city and has Crohn's himself.  I also started the SCD right off the bat.  So, seeing the Naturopath and eating on the SCD for the past 9 months has resulted in......a major decrease in all symptoms, most times to where they are non-existant.  Symptoms prior to diagnosis for me were mostly major gas and bloating.  My husband would have to light a candle in the bedroom at night, and sometimes the bloating was so bad it felt like I was 5 months pregnant again.  There are still times when I will be slightly gassy again, but I can typically point to a new food that I ate as the cause.  I have had no bloating in 9 months, nor have I seen an increase, or start of, pain.  I was extremely tired the 6 months before diagnosis, and finally am feeling my energy level approach normal for me, though I will have dips on occassion.  The markers in my blood tests (mainly CRP and SED) have also improved dramatically in this time. 
 
I grew up in a medial family, where my dad was an MD and a DO.  I have always been VERY skeptical of anything other than major medicine, and I think there are still a lot of quacks out there in the "natural" field.  This was a hard jump for me to make, to try a "natural" approach, but I am glad I did it.  I know that nothing can cure me, and that nothing can stop the progression of this disease.  All I know that is all indicators, outward and inward save for another colonoscopy which I will do in towards the end of the year, point to a decrease in my body.  
 
Time will tell if any one approach is better than the other.  We each have to do what we feel is the best for OUR body and life.     

Lizard99
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   Posted 9/5/2010 6:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for all the replies.  It's nce to know there are good ones out there:)  I think I will try again one day.
 
Newfoundson, 
What area are in you in if you don't me asking? I'm in northern VA/DC area and wonder if your naturopath is close.

Sir Oinksalot
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   Posted 9/5/2010 7:17 PM (GMT -7)   
newfoundsun - you say "I know that nothing can cure me, and that nothing can stop the progression of this disease."

May I ask why you think that?

newfoundsun
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   Posted 9/5/2010 7:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, let me clarify.  I know that only God can cure me.  :)
 
BUT...there is no medical/natural cure for Crohn's, and I know that.  Lots of theories, but nothing concrete.  Also, this disease is a progressive disease.  Regardless of what method you use, it will still progress on some level.
 
Does that answer your question?

newfoundsun
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   Posted 9/5/2010 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry Lizard, I'm at the other side of the country!

Sir Oinksalot
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   Posted 9/5/2010 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Not really

I was led to believe the same things, but I refused to. It has paid off for me and maybe soon the body of knowledge will progress where that is never said by a Doc again to a patient.

Im sorry Ive jumped to the crohn's forum from the RA one without any back story on myself.

If you want to know why I 'know' the opposite to what you wrote in that post, its a long read but my post over at the RA forum titled "Friends & Family" gives background on my experiences this year. I know whats possible, Im a little unsure of the how/why part but thats for my Docs to study now.

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=10&m=1892018

newfoundsun
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   Posted 9/5/2010 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I'll bite and read this later in the week.  My family all looked at me sideways when I told them I was going to do this without the major meds.  I don't think any one person has an answer yet, but it's our job to keep looking if we want a possibility of getting out of this!

Lizard99
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   Posted 9/6/2010 5:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you newfoundsun.  I love your blog!! Thanks for taking the time to write it, very encouraging as we hold the same beliefs:)

newfoundsun
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   Posted 9/6/2010 7:06 AM (GMT -7)   
smilewinkgrin  
 
Thanks Lizard!  Have a blessed day!

Nanners
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   Posted 9/6/2010 7:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Sir Oinksalot there is one thing you need to know, THERE IS NO CURE FOR CROHNS. I have had this darn disease for almost 35 years, believe me if there was a cure, I am sure I would have known by now. Maybe one day it will happen, but at this time there is no cure.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease 
Crohn's Disease for over 34 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

steroidsuck
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   Posted 9/6/2010 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
SIR Oinksalot, First I Love the name. but on to more serious things. How exactly did you make this magnet? could you be VERY specific! okay so I was diagnosed with Crohns about three years ago. At the time I had been going through a bunch of mouth pain which ended in a root canal that I fought to the end. I have a problem with anything belonging to my body being removed or altered. I tend to look to alternative ideas before western medicine. I think most DR now are heavily under the influence of the pharmaceutical companies. This being said I'm on steroids three times a day and in pain and bloated like a dead cow. I am also unemployed, so If it is something I can make myself cheaply anything is worth a try. I hate this stuff!
Also, am checking out Digestacure, Sovema, bemicade etc does anyone else look into these?!

steroidsuck
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   Posted 9/6/2010 7:10 PM (GMT -7)   
oh I forgot! naturopath next week as I went vegetarian also about 3 yrs ago and am really unsure what I should be eating during a flair and regularly

Sir Oinksalot
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   Posted 9/6/2010 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   
steroidsuck: read my other post, the hope one, and the one on the RA forum.

I dont talk about how to make the magnet, Im not here to push my way onto anyone, it is better discussed with a doctor.

Basically if someone needs to ask how to make one I dont want to tell, I have my reservations about sharing that because it involves electricity and soldering and safety is always paramount. You shouldnt be attempting to make electrical equipment without knowing how to keep it all safe.

If you can find an electrically minded person who you can trust to do this, then they should be able to figure out how to make one as well. Ill post exactly what I mean about the type of magnet on my other post so as to not hijack this one, but I dont feel comfortable giving someone instructions on how to make one.

steroidsuck
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   Posted 9/7/2010 6:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks I'll look back to the other thread you had listed
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