SIBO, Diet and Probiotics

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LALady
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   Posted 3/11/2011 2:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi!

Just curious...I was diagnosed positive for SIBO and took a two-week course of Xifaxin which I finished a couple weeks ago. I'm wondering what people do to increase their chances of keeping SIBO at bay in the way of diet. I am currently following the low FODMAP diet. I eat rice based carbs in very low quantities and wondering if this is acceptable? Also, what is the consensus on taking probiotics?

Btw - I have IBS and not Chrohn's. However, I am posting here bc it seems that more Crohn's sufferers have experience with SIBO/Xifaxin than do the IBS folks.

Thank you for any advice :)

Grace_1974
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   Posted 3/11/2011 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Probiotics=good ;-) I think a lot of us on here take them. I'm not sure on your other question, but I'm sure others will know and come along with some insight. :)
Prednisone 40 mg per day
Protonics 1X per day
6MP 50mg per day-just started 3/8/11
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Rainbow Light Women's One- Food-Based Multivitamin
Ultimate-Flora Critical Care Pro-biotic daily
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Lots of water, no dairy, limit sugar, no fast-food/processed food.

stripey
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   Posted 3/11/2011 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
May be a silly question what is SIBO?
Crohn's dx 1989, loop ileo 1992, end ileo 1992. Arthritis developed 1990 Stoma abcess 1995. Azathioprine started 1995. Panprocolorectomy 1999. Stillbirth 2000, antiphospholipid syndrome dx 2000. Flare up 2004, stoma abcess and strictoplasty 2004. Low blood pressure dx with impaired kidney function 2006, fludrocortisone pres. flare up 2010, steroids, Humira, codeine.

Nanners
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   Posted 3/11/2011 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). I have had a couple rounds of SIBO myself. Did 10 days of antibiotics and added a stronger probiotic and now haven't had any issues with another. Probiotics are the key in my book. Find one that has at least 10 billion beneficial bacteria in it. I take Primadolphilus Fortify by Natures Way, and it has kept me from getting anymore SIBO. Hugs!
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Crohn's Disease for over 35 years. Currently on Asacol, Protonix, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!

stripey
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   Posted 3/11/2011 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for that never heard of it. Had to look it up and from what I read basically it is the bacteria moving from colon into ileum, very simplistic explanation, and then multiplying. Well without a colon, suppose that is one thing it is harder for me to get.
Crohn's dx 1989, loop ileo 1992, end ileo 1992. Arthritis developed 1990 Stoma abcess 1995. Azathioprine started 1995. Panprocolorectomy 1999. Stillbirth 2000, antiphospholipid syndrome dx 2000. Flare up 2004, stoma abcess and strictoplasty 2004. Low blood pressure dx with impaired kidney function 2006, fludrocortisone pres. flare up 2010, steroids, Humira, codeine.

mark_seattle
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   Posted 3/11/2011 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Nanners, about the probiotics. Does yours have at least 10 billion beneficial bacteria? I was trying to google the one you mentioned and I found a blurb about it stating that it has 8 billion. Maybe I found the wrong one? Just wondering if you could confirm the count on your probiotic. Also, is it necessary to buy the kind that is in the refrigerated case at the store? I see on Walgreens.com it is advertised that they sell "non-refrigerated Primadopholus". http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/nature's-way-primadophilus-fortify-non-refrigerated-probiotic-supplement-vegetarian-capsules/id=prod6037549-product

But I thought that these things had to be refrigerated.

Do you think it's good to take one capsule per day or do you ever recommend taking 2 per day?

Nanners
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   Posted 3/12/2011 11:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes mine is only 8 billion, and you should use 10 billion. But this one agrees with me so well and has been sufficient in keeping the SIBO away. And this one does not have to be refrigerated like Primadolphilis Reuteri, but it is found in the refrigerated section and I keep mine in the frig. I was using the Primadolphilus Reuteri and used 2 at one point, but switched to the Fortify because I was going on vacation, and needed something that didn't require refrigeration. And have just stuck with it as it works so well for me. I state 10 billion because that is what the new recommendation is, but the 8 billion is doing well for me. Hugs!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease
Crohn's Disease for over 35 years. Currently on Asacol, Protonix, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium, Vit D, and Xanax prn. Resections in 2002 & 2005. Also diagnosed w/ Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, & Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!

Roni
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   Posted 3/12/2011 3:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone know if there is any research that suggest probiotics can worsen CD?

I'm post resection and started taking Primal Defense again, but to be honest, I was expecting that after being on PD for almost three years, I would have done better.

LALady
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   Posted 3/12/2011 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone! My doctor suggested taking Align, Nanners, which I've taken before with a tiny bit of success the time in the way of normalizing my bowels and reducing gas. However, my SIBO was so bad I don't think I could really appreciate much benefit from taking anything really. I started taking it again last night as I had a box laying around the house. I'll research into some other brands, as Align only has 1 billion bacteria in it. I've taken a few strains from Nature's Way previously, Primadophilus and Primadophilus Reuteri come to mind, and some other one that had something like 13 different strains in it. However, that one also had an FOS, which I cannot tolerate and which I believe people with SIBO are supposed to avoid anyhow.

Thanks again for the input! I guess there was a part of me that worried that putting good bacteria back into my system would be detrimental given that any bacteria (good or bad) would make its way back into my small intestine due to whatever underlying dysmotility issues I have re the IBS. Comforting to know that you're keeping yours away with the probiotics! Keep you posted ;)

Post Edited (LALady) : 3/12/2011 8:59:57 PM (GMT-7)

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