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songstress
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   Posted 8/14/2007 7:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I think I have a large bowel obstruction. Im waiting till my insur kicks in..which should be any time now..(they cashed my dang check so it better) but have been trying to figure out these symptoms for awhile and finally think but need help
 
can some obstruction people give me their symptoms they had leading up to diagnosis or treatment?
 
 
mine are:  extremely loud bowel sounds, cramping/intermittant sharp lower ab pain but aches up into bellybutton and causes me to feel like I need to go to the bathroom and throwup at the same time,  bloody diarrhea but very little/have been mainly constipated,  nausea, bone pain, fever, the worst bloating ever,  my stomach looks round (guy thought I was prego the other day mad )
 
any thoughts??

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Taking low amounts of Pred now & 3600mg of Asacol currently...Can't wait till I can get back on Remicade, my miracle drug!


trickynikki
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   Posted 8/14/2007 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, if you're having diarrhea, that's kind of a good sign, you don't have a complete bowel obstruction. In that case, nothing would get through, not even gas. I've had both partial and complete obstructions before, and both sucked. You could have a partial obstruction. You would have bloating, pain, nausea... My advice, if you have to wait to go to the hospital, is to watch what you eat. Try things that are mostly liquid, or mushy. That diet is not fun, but it's more fun than an obstruction. Try not to eat fibery things. That's really all the advice I have. Hopefully things will pass (literally and figuratively) and you'll feel better. Best of luck!


hyfyve
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   Posted 8/14/2007 8:01 PM (GMT -7)   
All I had was pain, nothing else. Please be careful with this, when my bowel obstructed it perforated and I got very very sick, was a tough go.

inflamed
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   Posted 8/14/2007 8:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree that it could be a partial blocakge (though sometimes you can have a bm with a blockage if there is some residual waste, but that's not the case if it lasts). I would go all liquid with the partial blockage. If I even think I feel the start of it I switch to all liquid.

The waves of pain, nausea, bloating and bowel signs make sense for a blockage(I tend to have a sharp pain wave that ebbs a bit with a loud bowel sound). I understand your insurance concern but if BMs stop or you vomit and your symptoms persist get treatment. Obstructions can be dangerous.
Currently in remission!

Post Edited (inflamed) : 8/17/2007 11:34:54 PM (GMT-6)


gemini kiwi
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   Posted 8/14/2007 8:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Why not just rest your bowel completely for say 24 or 48 hours and give things a chance to clear. I mean have water keep your fluids up but refrain from food.
GK

coco9
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   Posted 8/14/2007 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I vomited and a lot of gas was coming as up as I did.  The gas rumbling  was all below the bellybutton and I could actually feel it when I put me hand on my tummy.  I agree with everyone here as far as a liquid diet.  Maybe put yourself on the flu diet of, jello, clear juice,popcicles, etc.  My doctors also recommended Gatorade but I'm sorry I can't remember why.  I think it had something to do with the body eons (sp if I happened to guess right)  but I'm not sure.  I'm sure one of the other members will know the reason.  Good luck and I hope everything works out okay for you.

soccergirl
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   Posted 8/14/2007 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   

I have had three partial blockages and all three sent me to the ER.  I'm my case I had no bowel sounds, no bowel movements, I threw up and was in so much pain I couldn't take it.  I know exactly what I ate that blocked me...popcorn, raw baby carrots and hazelnuts.  I now avoid those three things.  When I was blocked or partially blocked I knew it.  There was no doubting what it could be, but that's me.  I've had other episodes where I have waves of pain that come and go, but I've been able to get through them.  I did the liquid diet for a few days to calm everything down and I put a heating pad on my tummy.  That helped me relax and eventually things made there way through.  It wasn't fun, but I knew I could survive it and it would eventually pass. 

I hope you're insurance kicks in soon and you can get some relief.  I have xanax that I take occationally to help me relax because it seems like the pain makes me tense and the tension causes the pain to get worse, so if I can break that cycle I can start feeling better.  Good luck and I hope you feel better.



gachrons
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   Posted 8/15/2007 4:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Song I had pains bad and went to Emerg. when I had mine and had the same symn. as you so that is what I did and would do again.Hope you get some help soon. lol gail

Skjura
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   Posted 8/15/2007 5:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
I have had some obstructions, both partial and total.

Don't eat food that have long fibers: brocolli, bamboo shots, aspargus and so on. Be careful with meat. Chicken meat is ok. But meat that is harder to chew is also a possible problem like fiber rich vegetables. Popcorn and all kind of seeds and nuts is bad stuff.

Those things makes a stop in a possible narrowed intestine, and the food will not move further,
which leads to nauseau, bloating and a cramping / colic like pain. Also a lot of sound. I have this trouble over and around the navel, but not below.

Drink water and be careful with food for some days. Yoghurt, juice, herbal tea and icecream is ok. Also soups with smashed vegetables, noodles and pasta.

If the obstruction gets worse, the pain will be unbearable, you can't even touch the abdomen area, and if you press your hand at your abdomen, and quick take the hand away, if it is a heavy pain then....please go to the ER asap.

From Ingrid

Nanners
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   Posted 8/15/2007 7:13 AM (GMT -7)   
If you are passing gas or stool you don't have an obstruction. You will know if you have one, and it would be where you couldn't wait for insurance to kick in, you would have to go to the ER. The pain is very bad, no air or stool will move out of you. Eventually you will start throwing up lovely green bile, and the pain will come in waves like labor pains (i.e. every few minutes).

If you think things are getting bad the above advice about a liquid or very well mushed diet is best.

Good Luck!
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


songstress
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   Posted 8/15/2007 7:21 AM (GMT -7)   
well I did some research while waiting on your answers...first, THANK U all for your replies..I pretty much have all the symptoms of a large bowel PARTIAL obstruction...the thin stool is more like what I am having versus diarrhea (tmi)

the pain is VERY COLICKY and its sooo dang painful it makes me feel like I could pass out or throw up
since I dont have the insurance Im gonna try the liquid diet bowel rest to see if that helps

this is what I found below that sounds deadup like me:

Symptoms of large-bowel obstruction can include:

A bloated abdomen
Abdominal pain, which can be either vague and mild, or sharp and severe, depending on the cause of the obstruction
Constipation at the time of obstruction, and possibly intermittent bouts of constipation for several months beforehand
If a colon tumor is the cause of the problem, a history of rectal bleeding (such as streaks of blood on the stool)
Diarrhea resulting from liquid stool leaking around a partial obstruction

Large-bowel obstruction
Abdominal pain. Blockage of the large intestine usually causes abdominal pain below the belly button. The pain may vary in intensity. Severe, constant pain may mean that your intestine's blood supply has been cut off or that you have a hole in your intestine. This is a medical emergency. Call your doctor immediately.
Bloating. Generalized abdominal bloating usually occurs around the belly button and in the pelvic area.
Diarrhea or constipation. Either of these symptoms may occur, depending on how complete the obstruction is. Your stools may be thin.
Vomiting. This symptom is not common with a large-bowel (colonic) obstruction. If vomiting occurs, it usually happens late in the illness.
Blockages caused by cancer may cause symptoms such as blood in the stool, weakness, weight loss, and lack of appetite.

THANKS AGAIN!!! I WILL KUP ON if the liquid works

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Taking low amounts of Pred now & 3600mg of Asacol currently...Can't wait till I can get back on Remicade, my miracle drug!


Roni
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   Posted 8/15/2007 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like you are at least partially obstructed. Don't wait too long before you go to emerg. I usually give it a day depending on the severity of pain. If it's too severe, you'll need to go in. Best wishes.

karendee
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   Posted 8/15/2007 2:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I am no obstruction expert but if they cashed the check you should be covered. Call them and let them know the check was cashed and the date.
Good Luck!
Karen

 ...

Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & ENTOCORT

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Cyclobenzaprine (generic of Flexeril)

Also taking Multivitamins, B Vitamis, Biotin, and Extra Folic Acid. (might add more when I do more research)


songstress
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   Posted 8/15/2007 2:40 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks karendee....Im gonna call and see!!!

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Taking low amounts of Pred now & 3600mg of Asacol currently...Can't wait till I can get back on Remicade, my miracle drug!


potty pooper
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   Posted 8/15/2007 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I have many obstructions, some partial, and some full, leading to 2 surgery's. The symptoms you express are those of a partial obstruction. My best advice- go on liquids only. I was able to avoid a full obstruction last fall when I only had liquids as soon as I felt the pain. I was hospitalized for a few days, and they were able to clear it with antibiotics. The nurse at the hospital was amazed that I had only liquids for a few days before, but I told her that due to my experience in the past, it knew was the best thing I could do.

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Marie-Claire
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   Posted 8/17/2007 12:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had both partial and full . For my last partial, I stayed on a liquid only diet, lots of warm water, . For the pain a warm water bottle or "hackey sack" as I call them. ...the wonderful pouches you can put in the microwave for a few seconds.
Also , I did some very gently massaging of my tummy.....and walking also helped move things along. If you're ok with taking stool softeners , those can help also. You'll know things are starting to work, when you start having pencil size stool.]
If only the liquid stool continues or stops alltogether stops don't hesitate to take that tired old butt up to the ER. Obstructions can be really nasty, and lead to septicimia etc. Good luck ....Praying for you.

I'll never forget when my last partial finally "moved". It was New year's Eve. ...and I was shouting....Happy New Year..I Pooped!!!!.
Best new years ever!

Mary
50 yr.old retired RN,Crohn's D for last35 yrs..severe esophagitis, migraines,strictures,urethral stricture,depression,probable MS.
 
 


songstress
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   Posted 8/19/2007 5:16 PM (GMT -7)   
well just KUP Im still in a WHOLE LOTTA PAIN....having only "D" but none today...my pain today has been something GOD AWFUL..Ive been so sick to my stomach, Ive wanted to actually puke several times

but Im sticking with the liquid only diet! Hoping to end this nasty booger all on my own!! Say prayers..thx ya'll at least if I dont get rid of it..Im seeing a doc on Friday

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Taking low amounts of Pred now & 3600mg of Asacol currently...Can't wait till I can get back on Remicade, my miracle drug!


Roni
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   Posted 8/19/2007 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
If you are obstructed, you might not be able to end this on your own. It sounds to me like you need medical assistance. Friday is a long time away...

EruditePaul
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   Posted 8/19/2007 7:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Do you mean if you can pass gases, that means no obstruction?
 
Thanks

Diagnosed with CD in 1994;

Currently being treated with TCM.


Nanners
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   Posted 8/20/2007 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes EruditePaul. When you have an obstruction you can't pass anything. Stool, gas NADA. It is very painful.

Songstress, what is KUP?? Remember, you have some old farts on here who aren't quite up to speed on the internet lingo.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


songstress
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   Posted 8/20/2007 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
KUP means Keep u posted...lol

hey Im not old (27) and I just learned what it meant 2 mths ago...lol!!

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Taking low amounts of Pred now & 3600mg of Asacol currently...Can't wait till I can get back on Remicade, my miracle drug!

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