Third week on Specific Carbohydrate Diet

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killerzoey
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   Posted 8/18/2007 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm


My synopsis (only mine) of the diet:

1) Stop feeding the bad stuff in your gut by limiting types of carbs.

2) Add home made fully fermented yogurt (a strong probiotic with only specific types of bacteria) or probiotic supplement if yogurt is not tolerated, though because of the complete fermentation it is tolerated surprisingly well by people who can't normally have dairy.

3) Gradually increase complexity of foods as healing occurs (e.g. in the beginning you eat only pureed overcooked carrots. Later, raw.)



I just wanted to post my experience so far in case anyone is interested.

I started the SCD late July and did the intro diet for 5 days. 2-5 days are recommended. The intro diet serves to rest and clean the digestive system while providing decent nourishment and eliminating the types of carbs that can make it through the small intestines intact enough to feed the bad guys. Intro foods are things like homemade chicken soup with pureed carrots, home made yogurt, home made jello made with 1/2 no sugar-added grape juice and 1/2 water, home made apple or pear sauce... it's pretty boring "sick person food" but most anyone tolerates it well I understand. The bone broth from the home made chicken soup is supposed to be very healing (you boil the heck out of that poor chicken to extract as much goodness as possible). I had to learn how to make SCD-compliant yogurt which was a fun adventure. Really yummy yogurt and very fresh tasting. I immediately started making a yogurt and frozen banana smoothie nearly every day - really yummy.

So after the intro diet I started introducing new foods gradually, like one at a time, according to the book "Breaking The Vicious Cycle". So first off I added zucchini that's peeled and de-seeded and cooked to death. Then I can add squash, cooked pineapple, etc.

I recently added the friendly yeast S. Boulardii just cuz I heard it can help. Also SCD-legal digestive Enzymes.

Most people gauge whether a new food is ok or not by whether it sends them to the bathroom. In my case I have mostly had C not D, so I just kind of see if it makes me gassy or bloated. If not, I add it to my list.

The C became a real problem after a few days and I've added steamed beets to my diet which seems to help. I'm also taking magnesium. It's a little tricky on this diet because it's zero tolerance for things like starch. So you can't just take any supplement out there. You have to be really careful about additives and screen everything carefully.

One thing I definitely noticed is that while I'm constipated, my stools are much better looking (lol) since the diet. Before, if my stools were dark they were also mucous-y. But mostly they were a sickly yellowy color and they floated, which struck me as a bit odd. I learned later that this is probably due to malabsorption. Not likely gas because I have very little of that (scary little to be honest). Anyway, they're hall of fame quality, now. I've only seen a small trace of mucous, the color is good and they sit there in the bottom of the toilet like they should tongue

In the mean time, my blood work is excellent and CT scan unremarkable, just showing lots of constipation. This was only a week ago, 2 weeks into SCD. I still have LRQ pain and back/buttock pain but it has subsided some. Not sure if this is SCD or Asacol related. The Entocort did not seem to effect it (took 9mg for 3 weeks prior to starting Asacol). So ithe improvement either the SCD, the Asacol, both, or some synergistic effect. What I'm starting to suspect is that the discomfort may be largely due to constipation and if I am able to find a way to consistently keep things moving while healing my gut as well as possible via diet, I may be on my way to relief in that department.

If someone having diarrhea started this diet, they may find that the diarrhea goes away fairly quickly.

But sadly, my gastritis is back. I started drinking a shot of vodka here and there (hey - it's SCD legal, I couldn't get pain killers and was tired of being in pain) so I don't know if this is what caused it or if it's CD activity in my stomach. But I have to tell you that it really sucks because it manifests as constant, hollow, gnawing hunger. What seemed to make it subside last time was a liquid diet (Ensure) but I don't want to do that because it would mean leaving SCD. SO I'm going to try to just be easy on my stomach for a while and see if it goes away. darn. I really liked that vodka. scool It was my one naughty thing!

Sorry so long. So far, after my experience and being in contact with others on the diet via the internet, I would say so far that this diet is worth a try. I'll post more as I learn more for anyone that cares to read.

Take care...
36 year old mother of a fabulous toddler.
Diagnosed with Crohn's July 2007. I believe it's in the right side of my colon.
Currently taking Entocort 6 mg/day (tapering down), Asacol, Protonix 40mg/day.

On Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) since late July and seeing improvement in "output" quality and hopefully therefore absorption. Taking SCD legal supplements: B vitamins, Folonic Acid 800mg, EnZym Complete DPP IV Aid by Kirkman, and Saccaromyces Boulardii (a probiotic yeast).

Gastritis is back - constant, gnawing hunger. Yech.

Post Edited (killerzoey) : 8/18/2007 3:39:24 PM (GMT-6)


dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/18/2007 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Strange that vodka is okay on the diet being that it is made from potatoes, glad it is working for you, I have so many fruit and veggie allergies I could never use this type of diet.
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


killerzoey
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   Posted 8/19/2007 12:08 AM (GMT -7)   
No starch in vodka. That's why it's ok in moderation...if you don't have gastritis mad
36 year old mother of a fabulous toddler.
Diagnosed with Crohn's July 2007. I believe it's in the right side of my colon.
Currently taking Entocort 6 mg/day (tapering down), Asacol, Protonix 40mg/day.

On Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) since late July and seeing improvement in "output" quality and hopefully therefore absorption. Taking SCD legal supplements: B vitamins, Folonic Acid 800mg, EnZym Complete DPP IV Aid by Kirkman, and Saccaromyces Boulardii (a probiotic yeast).

Gastritis is back - constant, gnawing hunger. Yech.


songstress
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   Posted 8/19/2007 5:41 AM (GMT -7)   
TFS!!! I have wondered myself if carb specific diets could help CD patients. or if low sugar diets would help...I know they help arthritis.

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Taking low amounts of Pred now & 3600mg of Asacol currently...Can't wait till I can get back on Remicade, my miracle drug!


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/19/2007 7:15 AM (GMT -7)   
best of luck to you. i started the maker's diet around this time last year (i cheated and started on phase 3 cos phases 1 and 2 were just too darn intimidating). i noticed improvements within a couple of days. from what i've read about the SCD is that it seems in ways to be similar to the maker's diet. the maker's diet promotes eating organic and not eating processed foods and refined carbs. in january of this year i started the diet over, beginning at phase 1 and i had remarkable success. i feel the best immemorial. there is definitely something to diet and nutrtition with all of this. oh, and the author of the maker's diet has crohn's too and this diet has essentially "cured" him.

glad to hear the scd seems to be working for you. stick with it no matter how hard it gets. i believe it is worth it. these are just lifestyle changes. once your body adapts (and you do too) it will be easy and you'll live longer and be healthier than most.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
been on basically every med available, currently on colozal & 6-mp
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon


Skjura
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   Posted 8/19/2007 3:31 PM (GMT -7)   
 
 
Hi,
 
It's so exciting to read about those diets, your posts really inspire me to find out more about it. I have red that the SCD diet is a bit rigid and hard to follow up. But so are all the examinations and all kind of discusting scopes, all the bloodworks and the thought of eating some kilos of prednisone, pentasa, getting remicade and humira for the rest of my life too.
 
And not to mention all pains, vomitings, cramps, bloating and constipations. Oh, and all the sideeffects and other sicknesses that could be developed because I initially got Crohns.
 
Do I want to feel so healed that I could quit the most of the medications that my future body will need to eat to function on a dayly level? Is it possible for me, only by eating a new diet, to live the most of my life with way less pain and suffering than I experience now?
 
Do I lose anything by trying?
 
Ingrid
 

nazeha
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   Posted 8/19/2007 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
My name is Maya and I was just diagnosed w/CD in January 07. I believe I've had symptoms since I was 12. I'm 19 now. My doctor has me on Cipro and Entocort. The Entocort is giving me really terrible side effects, so I'm getting off that whether my doctor likes it or not. I hate medication and when I start seeing major side effects, I would rather not be on anything. I'm trying to find out about more natural ways to maintain my CD. Diets, natural supplements, anything. It's difficult because everyone w/CD is different. So it's hard to find something that works. But if anyone knows of anything natural that is working, do share. I was reading about The Maker's Diet and am going to look into that now. Also the SCD. What exactly is the Maker's Diet? Is it very restricting? I'm lactose intolerant but have sort of ignored it my whole life. It's getting a lot worse w/CD. I have a pretty healthy diet as it is, but I still love food and don't want to give up too much. But anything is better than having to run to the bathroom constantly, right.
Anyway, if anyone knows of some good diets, please do share.
Greatly appreciated.
M.

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/19/2007 8:40 PM (GMT -7)   
nazeha - do a search on my name and you should be able to see the threads i've started. i've got a long one (i forget the name) but it chronicles my experience on the maker's diet since january of this year. i think it will interest you.

i am not too familiar with the SCD so i cannot really comment on it. as for the maker's diet, yes, it is very restrictive. and that is cos you have to relearn how to eat. i highly suggest doing it what it says - starting at phase 1. i initially started it a year ago but i started on phase 3 cos phases 1 and 2 were too intimidating (no grains and other restrictions). i saw improvements though within a few days. i then did a radical version of phase 1 in january and i got even better (i dont recommend doing that though - it was brutal). read the book first so you really know what you are getting into. but think about this: you can potentially get better or even get into remission(?) just by changing how you eat and get off all drugs and meds. but in order to get the best results possible you must commit yourself and be diligent - no cheating. it is tough but then it is also just 40 days of your life to eat like this. 40 days of changing your eating habits for potentially a lifetime of improved health? that is a trade off in my mind worth making and has been worth it for me. i highly suggest every one to do something like this with their diet, be it makers, SCD or whatever. it has helped me and others. you just have to go hardcore to get it to work and suffer through a necessary detox and retrain your eating habits and your palate. for me, after 3 months of no grains and limited carbs (this was part of the extreme version i did - not what the book recommends) my palate changed, i lost my sweet tooth and i have no problem now eating good foods and staying away from bad foods - i've seen what eating this way can do for me and that motivates me to continue to eat this way and so does the knowledge i've gained about nutrition and food, knowing what is good and bad for me specific to me and crohn's and health and in general. it is really up to you on these diets as to how well you want them to work for you, in that the more you stick to it the better chance you have of getting the desired results.

i was told about a year after i was diagnosed with CD that about 99% of people with it become lactose intolerant. i wish my doctor told me upfront instead of letting me take a year of intense pain to figure it out. to this day i resent him for it. you can do the maker's and be lactose intolerant. no worries. you should be able to handle cheese, yogurt, and kefir (a cousin to yogurt) since these are fermented. sheeps and goat dairy is easier for lactose intolerant people to tolerate too.

i dont know how you eat, but i thought i ate healthy too until i researched food and what not and found out that i actually ate like crap. so if you were anything like me, you will have a huge awakening to what eating healthy really is.

let me know if you have any other questions. probably start a new thread though seeing how this is more related to the SCD and i dont want to get this thread off topic any more than i have by introducing the maker's diet here.

best of luck!
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
been on basically every med available, currently on colozal & 6-mp
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon


Skjura
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   Posted 8/20/2007 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Maya,

be sure you do not stop prednisone immediately, but do exactly as the doctor told you. Don't quit without tapering. Follow the entire program. It could be dangerous doing it abruptly.

I am on prednisone too. I still have a month to go, and I wouldn't dare to stop all of a sudden. Ppl. get seriously sick if they do.

Good luck finding a diet that suits you.

From Ingrid :-)

killerzoey
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   Posted 8/20/2007 1:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know anything about the Maker's Diet but have heard good things about it. Someone here (was it Kim)? also said she experienced tremendous relief by doing an anti-yeast diet. SCD is not anti-yeast but strives to ultimately achieve healthy balance between gut flora. But some may find one diet works better for them than another depending, perhaps, on what is out of whack. I would definitely encourage interested people to investigate further. In doing this diet I have not only begun to feel better, I have learned a lot about my body. And I have been able to eat again, when I'd just given up and resorted to Ensure, not having any clue what might help or harm me.
36 year old mother of a fabulous toddler.
Diagnosed with Crohn's July 2007. I believe it's in the right side of my colon.
Currently taking Entocort 6 mg/day (tapering down), Asacol, Protonix 40mg/day.

On Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) since late July and seeing improvement in "output" quality and hopefully therefore absorption. Taking SCD legal supplements: B vitamins, Folonic Acid 800mg, EnZym Complete DPP IV Aid by Kirkman, and Saccaromyces Boulardii (a probiotic yeast).

Gastritis is back - constant, gnawing hunger. Yech.


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 8/20/2007 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   
right on and well said killerzoey. i experienced the same things from doing the maker's diet. my eyes have been opened very wide to nutrition.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
been on basically every med available, currently on colozal & 6-mp
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon


kim123
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   Posted 8/21/2007 7:17 PM (GMT -7)   

Yes, it was Kim...me :)....that followed an antifungal program to get well again. Similar to SCD but not as restrictive. You can eat all meat, fish, poultry, eggs, all veggies, except potatoes, yams, mushroom (a fungus), and corn (a grain, no grains allowed!), can eat all berries, green apples, lemons/limes, butter, cream cheese, yogurt, lots of water. CD and colitis have been found to have a fungal etiology, so starve the fungus by eating lo-carb and fungus/yeast free food and you will get better. I would suggest trying one of the above mentioned diets. You have nothing to lose. If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten!

Within a week or so, you will know if it is working for you. But, you cannot cheat, not one mouthful. As well, I suggest taking a natural antifungal supplement such as caprylic acid or olive leaf extract. Be careful of fungus die-off, however.(flu like symptoms). You may feel worse before you feel better. Very common. If you want more info and specifics of the diet, or just hear my story, you can email me.

Take care..

Kim


princesa
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   Posted 8/21/2007 8:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I was on the SCD religiously for over a year. I feel like it did help me, but I also felt there were allowables that bothered me and forbidden foods that didn't cause a problem for me. I could never tolerate the yogurt - tried everything, even goat's milk. Now, I take a probiotic supplement.

Over the years, I've sort of developed my own version of gluten, dairy and grain free eating that seems to work best for me.
 
The SCD has a very good track record healing Crohn's - even better than UC. It's definitely worth a trial run.


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
Possibly misdiagnosed
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps
 
 

Post Edited (princesa) : 8/22/2007 9:34:29 AM (GMT-6)


EMom
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   Posted 8/22/2007 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow! Thanks for all the info, killerzoey! I am new here and learning a lot! I will be following your progress and looking into the SCD and Maker's diets. Crazy Harry, thanks for your info on that one! Good luck to you both! I do believe what all of us eats makes a difference, and my son is willing to try anything and everything to avoid further drugs. That said, I realize everyone is different and ultimately we may have no choice but to continue on with prescription drugs. Just want to be aware of possibilities!!!
EMom

Mother to 15 year old boy just diagnosed in June, 2007. Taking Asacol, just finished Prednisone, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, and a good multivitamin.


njmom
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   Posted 8/22/2007 8:43 AM (GMT -7)   
don't want to hijack this forum but Nazeha, are you sure it is the Entocort causing side effects and not the Cipro?  

tennisgirl87
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   Posted 8/23/2007 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
i've been on the scd for a few weeks and it seems to be helping with the ibs symptoms though not my lrq pain...anyway my weight had been really low but steady and since starting this diet it has been dropping slightly. any ideas on how to increase the calories while on the scd?
20 yr. old female
rectal abcess removed- '02
perianal fistula removed- '03
diagnosed with crohn's- Nov. '06
resection- Feb. '07
currently on Entocort 9mg, hyoscyamine for ibs, multi-vitamin, calcium, and fish oil


princesa
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   Posted 8/23/2007 8:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Nut butters, peanut butter and avacado are all good choices to help you gain weight. Also, you can supplement with healthy oils: Udo's, flax, olive and fish oil. I try to get 2-3 tablespoons per day.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
Possibly misdiagnosed
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps
 
 


Skjura
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   Posted 8/23/2007 12:08 PM (GMT -7)   
WoW!

Today I made my first portion of home made scd yoghurt. I bought a yoghurt maker some years ago, just cause I was curious how to make my own yoghurt, hadn't the slightest clue I would really need it 4 years later :-) Yesterday I started the work, and it was sooo easy to make my own yoghurt. When ready to eat I filled the blender with banana and bilberry, both still frozen, and mixed this with the good, probiotic yoghurt. And what a surprise! No sugar, no lactose and fresh fruit and berries, and the best of all: my sick intestines will love it.
 
Search the net and you will find the yoghurt maker, the recepies and the explanation why this is so good for ppl like us. Even my hubby loved it. Much fresher and better taste, than the ones u buy in the stores. You can also add extra probiotic bacteria into this yoghurt before the fermentating process starts, search the net to find those. I'm sure you can buy it in all healthstores close to you.
Those probiotic bacterias are super healthy for us.

The best of luck
From Ingrid

Post Edited (Skjura) : 8/23/2007 1:09:51 PM (GMT-6)


Roni
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   Posted 8/23/2007 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   
CrazyHarry,

Did you lose too much weight on the first/second phases of Maker's diet? I tried them last September, but found I was losing way too much weight and I'm pretty tiny as it is because of the CD.

The other thing is, I'm afraid of how the detox would affect other health problems ie: I have a mild heart condition. Medical doctors don't have a lot of advice to give on this, cause they aren't too familiar with it. I'm presently taking the probiotics and following the diet to a certain point. But I have some food allergies and I'm afraid to try the soaked nuts, etc. I'm still a big fan of the maker's diet because I see a difference compared to a year ago.

Any advice about the weight loss issue, food allergies or other health problems with the maker's diet?

killerzoey
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   Posted 8/24/2007 4:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Way to go, Ingrid! Isn't the yogurt the BEST? And those smoothies are so good! I use a heating pad to make my yogurt and have really gotten the hang of it, but a yogurt maker sounds nice.


Tennisgirl, I think the idea of adding fats is a good one. Without bread and junk I find I have to eat quite a bit to keep my weight up but it has stabilized, which is good, because prior to starting the diet it was shedding fast. I know we're not supposed to have this many eggs but I typically start the day with a 4 egg scramble in olive oil. I eat TONS of the yogurt and many, many over-ripe bananas.

It's kind of a pain to have to cook the bejeezus out of so much food and keep it on hand but I steam veggies and carrots and munch on them often. I have hard boiled eggs (ugh - more eggs?) on hand for when I need to run errands, lest I get super hungry and tempted to cheat.

I buy ground beef and turkey in pretty good quantities, mix a bit of plain salt in and make patties. I individually wrap them so I can just throw one or two in the toaster oven for a quick high-protein snack.

I've just introduced ripe, raw avocado per Stage 1 and that's a nice high-calorie addition.

Gourmet it ain't, at least not until we get to more advanced foods. But oh, those smoothies!

I'd appreciate knowing how you, Ingrid or anyone else is doing with the diet. Maybe we can keep a thread going or something.
36 year old mother of a fabulous toddler.
Diagnosed with Crohn's July 2007. I believe it's in the right side of my colon.
Currently taking Entocort 6 mg/day (tapering down), Asacol, Protonix 40mg/day.

On Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) since late July and seeing improvement in "output" quality and hopefully therefore absorption. Taking SCD legal supplements: B vitamins, Folonic Acid 800mg, EnZym Complete DPP IV Aid by Kirkman, and Saccaromyces Boulardii (a probiotic yeast).

Gastritis is back - constant, gnawing hunger. Yech.


tennisgirl87
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   Posted 8/25/2007 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
killerzoey, that sounds good, i'm a little sporadic signing on but i usually check back a couple times a week. i eat so many eggs a day it seems a bit ridiculous but it's the one thing that fills me up. i went from no appetite to being hungry all the time (maybe because of the entocort?) but i still can't gain any weight. i love the muffins, and i eat tons of bananas too but i got sick last time i ate peanut butter (i think from the fat) so i haven't tried it again yet.

i am living in the dorm this year (thankfully i have a private bath!) and i go back tomorrow so my mom and i have been baking non-stop so that i have a supply of muffins and breads to take. also we talked to the food service and they are going to make me my own meals of chicken and soft veggies so i'm hoping everything works out. no late night pizza for me but this diet isn't so bad when i compare it to the liquid diets i was on before.

my yogurt turned out bitter, any suggestions?
20 yr. old female
rectal abcess removed- '02
perianal fistula removed- '03
diagnosed with crohn's- Nov. '06
resection- Feb. '07
currently on Entocort 9mg, hyoscyamine for ibs, multi-vitamin, calcium, and fish oil


killerzoey
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   Posted 8/25/2007 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Tennisgirl

I admire your resolve in keeping up the diet while in a dorm and pursuing your studies. That's wonderful they're willing to cook especially for you!

I just learned that the yogurt should be tart. If it is sweet that could be a sign that the lactose did not all get eaten up.

I add a drop of PURE vanilla extract sometimes. Or can you tolerate honey? That helps a LOT.

I haven't started baking yet. The muffins sure sound great. Have you heard of that online SCD bakery? I haven't ordered from it yet since I'm not doing nut flour yet. I seems pricey but if you can swing it it might come in handy if you get really busy and run out of stuff. It's www.SCDbakery.com.

Best of luck!
36 year old mother of a fabulous toddler.
Diagnosed with Crohn's July 2007. I believe it's in the right side of my colon.
Currently taking Entocort 6 mg/day (tapering down), Asacol, Protonix 40mg/day.

On Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) since late July and seeing improvement in "output" quality and hopefully therefore absorption. Taking SCD legal supplements: B vitamins, Folonic Acid 800mg, EnZym Complete DPP IV Aid by Kirkman, and Saccaromyces Boulardii (a probiotic yeast).

Gastritis is back - constant, gnawing hunger. Yech.


Skjura
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   Posted 8/26/2007 10:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi again,
yes, both the yoghurt and the smoothie are delicious and really fresh. But how do you make the yoghurt when you use a heating pad? I know that one have to keep the temperature on a certain level so that the stuff fermentates (sp?), and I know that one have to do this for at least 24 hours, but when you have the yoghurt maker you don't have to keep a close watch. Well, mine works for max 10 hours, so I have to turn it off and on again some times.

To you ppl who just wants to make the yoghurt, but not start a diet: the yoghurt will be fermentated so that almost all lactose dissapears, it's only 1 % left, the yoghurt you make yourself will be sugarfree, it tastes fresh and sour, but you can add honey, (a special honey is recommended at scdiet.com), you can add fresh, frosen berries, ripe bananas, cooked fruits, but NO sugar. When you add probiotics that is special chosen for this kind of yoghurt making, you will have way better intestines if you take this every day.....some may think it's complicated making this, but I can assure you, it's fun and easy, and
the benefits greatly outweigh any negatives.

Why making the yoghurt ourself and eat som much of it each day? (I have 2 cups daily). The probiotics when going through this process will be abel to reach the intestines and do their good work along all of them. Other probiotics will not be able to do this work at the entire intestine. Another benefit is the calcium and other good vitamines that are in the milk. You make this yoghurt from whole milk and a good yoghurt containing lactobacillus bulgaricus, streptococcus termophilus and if you find a yoghurt also containing lactobacillus acidophilus, those three will make wonders. (A greece yoghurt is said does, and goat milk yoghurt does).

A great group of us crohnies have decided to quit drinking milk and many of us also have found out that sugar makes us worse. The milk contains sugar, lactose, but good milk products (for us) don't. The yoghurt you make yourself is going through this fermentation process for 24 hour, the ones you buy around 6 hours. This isn't enough. The stuff in the milk that is bad for us (lactose, some proteins) is killed when the ferment is ready, from 24-26 hours.

Yes, killerzoey, could be nice to keep a thread going. As I earlier have written I have just learned a bit about the scd diet, but I am so curious to learn more about it. It's my nature to do research to find out what could possible help, I am, to tell you the truth I'm quite scared about the thought of consuming so much medicine in the long run. If I just could reduce the intake a little by finding some diet that may help a bit, I wouldn't be frightened about making all my food my self, it's actually still the culture to do so from this place on the planet where I am sitting. ;-)

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kim123
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   Posted 8/26/2007 4:13 PM (GMT -7)   

Just wondering...could you add SteviaPlus instead of honey for sweetener? It is not an artificial sugar and is actually an herb with benefits including improved gastrointestinal function by helping nourish the friendly bacteria in your gut. Where can you buy these yogurt makers?-and what brands do you recommend? I'm very interested.......

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   Posted 8/26/2007 9:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I use stevia instead of processed sugar, honey is excellent too but if it's not allowed on the SCD then I guess you have to avoid it, this is why I don't do the SCD, honey is a natural antifungal, antibacterial and antiviral and very healthy for you...I eat very healthy avoiding many things like processed foods/beverages, fast-foods, junk foods, animal fat, caffeine and processed/refined sugar.

Remember, it's not just what you eat, but also how you eat it, chewing your food completely means less work on your GI tract breaking food down for you, eating slowly and not gulping helps avoid gas and bloating as well, when you eat is important to, not too close to bed time, and how much you eat at each meal, avoiding 3 large meals and instead eating 5 smaller meals is much easier on the digestive system.


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