Sugar is THE DEVIL!!!!!!

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snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 7:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Last week I tried a little experiment: I just about completelely quit sugar. Except for my one Activa yogurt and whatever small amounts are in bread, I stopped cold turkey. I did this because I've had an awful habit of stuffing my face with chocolate at my desk, making desserts and going out for milkshakes once a week. That, plus my new addiction to Code Red Mountain Dew were starting to pack on some pounds, plus, any numbskull would know all that sugar isn't good for a body!
 
Since I quit, something amazing happened: The risidual inflammation I had for months (in the, eh hem, rectal area)seems to have cleared up! I had heard that sugar could contribute to inflammation, but didn't think it would to this extent.
 
The reason I say sugar is the devil is because although I know how awful it is now, I have been tempted left and right. My wife made  a pie, somebody last week had a chocolate b'day cake, and today someone brought cake and DOUBLE CHOCOLATE ESPRESSO cookieS!!!! I have to admit, I did the old "chew and spit out bit" on those. They were delicious!!!
 
I'm going to keep up the cold turkey for one month, and then try to see what just a little does to me. Right now I'm half hoping the inflammation returns so I know it's not sugar (well, not quite half hoping)...but I have to say, I haven't had a whole week of relief in a very long time, so I really think sugar is to blame.
 
CHOCOLATE!!!!!!
Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


Jelena
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   Posted 9/4/2007 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Sugas rob the body of minerals and stimulate inflammatory cytokines,or chemical messengers within the immune system that promote inflammation.They also dramatically increase acidity within the intestinal tract.


146 reasons why sugar is ruining your healt!!

http://www.rheumatic.org/sugar.htm

snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 7:37 AM (GMT -7)   
That's good enough for me Jelena!!! Thanks! I'll post that on the fridge.

Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


MBJOH
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   Posted 9/4/2007 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
I have often wondered if sugar is what is doing me in. I have days where I feel very good and would almost say normal and then I have very bad days. Could the bad days be when I ate more sugar? I also have rectal problems (inflamation). I love cookies and pie and all those sweet things and fortunately am 5'8 and only weigh 110 so I eat all those things but maybe I would feel better without sugar. I will try it also and see what happens. Thanks for the idea Snappy. MB

snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 9:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck , MBJOH. It's not easy, but living without pain is a real good incentive!
 
I really was eating maybe 20 Hershey's kisses a day, and one sugary drink a day, so I consider myself an addict. But this week I feel GREAT! My energy level is way up!
Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


Roni
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   Posted 9/4/2007 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
hey snappy,

tell your wife to use Unpasteurized Honey instead of sugar for all her baking needs. It's an easy substitute, just use 1/3 less liquid ingredients.

Unpasteurized honey (or raw honey) has many health benefits and won't affect us crohnies the same way sugar does.

snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 9:20 AM (GMT -7)   
That's an awesome idea, Roni! Thanks.
Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


MBJOH
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   Posted 9/4/2007 9:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Snappy - my downfall isn't chocolate, it is cookies. I love cookies. I tried the SCD diet once where you avoid sugar and carbs and couldn't do it but just sugar I think I could do. And yes, honey is okay so when you have a sweets craving toast and honey might work. I hope it makes a difference - I am on 6-MP and Humira and am close to being better but not quite - maybe no sugar is the thing I need to do to get to remission. I am going on a cruise in February and I really want to be well for it.

snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
MBJOH, When you are as close to being well as we are, but not quite there, I have to believe that it is something in the diet. Although I have no severe food problems (no diarhea), I think food still effects my inflammation. I don't eat red meat, stay low on fiber and have a pretty healthy diet except for the sugar, so it was kind of a simple answer for me.  Try the no sugar for a week and maybe it will help. If it doesn't, you can at least rejoice in the fact that something so delicious isn't affecting your crohns.
 
Of course there are thsoe 146 other reasons that Jelena mentioned...!!!
 
Oh, I love cookies. They are delicious because they have everything in them that is bad!!!
Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


MBJOH
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   Posted 9/4/2007 10:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Snappy - that is what I am thinking too. If I have good days then when I have bad days it must be something I am doing. I do eat red meat but not excessively. I think I eat pretty good. I avoid fried food and don't have too much dairy or ice cream because of the fat content. ANd I am not a soda drinker. Sugar is my only vice. I quit smoking to years ago and don't drink alcohol often and I figure if I can quit smoking I can quit sugar. The hard part for me is my son loves cookies too and I can't even have them in the house if I can't eat them. He will have to hide them from me. Keep me posted as to how you are doing. Just curious - how many Pentasa do you take a day - I am on that also and how long have you had crohn's?

snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   

MBJOH,

 

I have a little cookie monster in the house, too! But my wife has him shunning most sugar. Don't know how she did that!

 

I take 6 Pentasa a day (500 mg caps). Funny thing is, my GI wants me off because he thinks it's not really needed if you're on Remicade or Humira. But I told him I'd rather not put all my eggs in one basket and that I thought the Pentasa gave me some relief.

 

I have been crohn's diagnosed for about 2.5 years now. I got symptoms (fissure) and my diagnosis within months of each other. Lucky!


Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


MBJOH
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   Posted 9/4/2007 11:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I am still on Pentasa with Humira and actually think when I up it to 8 a day I do better than with 6 a day. Who knows.

My cookie monster isn't so little anymore - he is 14 and surpassed me in size. He can eat a whole bag of cookies. Hopefully he never has to worry about not eating them.

Thanks for the info Snappy. Let me know how you do with no sugar. Take care.
MB

snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 11:16 AM (GMT -7)   

You do the same MBJOH!

 

Oh, for what it's worth, I dropped down to half a dose of Pentasa for a weekend and had almost constipation-like symptoms. Did not care for that! My GI said Pentasa really does change the consistency of your bm, and I would just have to get used to that if I quit (which he thankfully leaves up to me!).


Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


pb4
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   Posted 9/4/2007 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   
I've always said that about refined/processed sugar...ofcourse our bodies need sugar to regulate our glucose levels which can be achieved via fruits and veggies, not the refined/processed junk.

You know what strikes me odd as well...you get plenty of animal activists going on about the fur trades and animal rights (which I'm all for I'm just not an activist about it), yet it's also known out there about how the poor people working from sun up to sun down chopping all that sugar cane down and the horrid treatment they get for not near enough money to survive....sugar is a multi-billion dollar industry...it's used for many things, glue, concrete, preserving foods and beverages, that's why it imparitive you read all lables and avoid processed foods all together, there's way too much sugar in that junk.
 
 
I use Stevia and honey when needed..there are many recipies to bake with Stevia, just google it.

:)


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snappy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, at risk of being labeled unpatriotic, I'll say Americans are very selective about which issues to jump on the bandwagon about. Depends on which celebrity brings it up and how much we are willing to part with it.
 
I guess it's more than just Americans. People in general are in denial about where everything we use comes from and what it does to our body. 
Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


pb4
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   Posted 9/4/2007 12:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Well chances are, without a diet high in sugar, the less sick people there would be and imagine what that would do to the pharmacuetical industry and the sugar industry if it was banned....like it should be.

:)
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princesa
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   Posted 9/4/2007 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
I've read sugar depresses the immune system and the effect lasts for several hours after ingestion. Excess sugar consumption is suspected to play a part in causing IBD. I was one of those who ate sugary/chocolate stuff all day long when I was younger - particularly in college - and never had a weight problem. I was addicted and I feel certain it played a part in where I am today.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
Possibly misdiagnosed
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps
 
 


Marie-Claire
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   Posted 9/4/2007 11:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Have any of you ever read the SUGAR BLUES. ?I can't remember the authors name, but he swore up and down and sideways that sugar was the cause of all illness. I tried what he recommended ..which was to quit cold turkey. Boy the withdrawal symptoms are wicked, headache, nausea, I actually got the shakes....needless to say, I didn't stick it out for very long. Every NEw Year's I resolve to quit sugar....every Lent, I resolve to quit sugar....every time I last 2 days , 3 at the most. Lately my downfall is Starbucks....Caramel Machiatos with whipped cream. ....Just one a day....but oh have I packed on the pounds.....now I have to try to give that up without replacing it with something even worse.
My head knows that sugar is bad, but in my defense I grew up in a French Canadian home where my mother would make sugar pies for Hockey Night in Canada....and supper wasn't over until you'd had your choice of a multitude of freshly baked goods. In fact, when I go to Heaven, that's exactly what I want St. Peter to greet me.....freshly baked pie!!LOL.

In all seriousness, I know how bad sugar is...the evidence is everywhere.....but OH it is so hard to give up!!!!

sweet and tired old Mary
50 yr.old retired RN,Crohn's D for last35 yrs..severe esophagitis, migraines,strictures,urethral stricture,depression,probable MS.
 
 


gachrons
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   Posted 9/5/2007 3:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Snappy I guess it's more honey for me I was just getting used to grape jelly and pigging out on sweets worst then before the pred. will give it aa try where the sweets are concerned. lol gail

snappy
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   Posted 9/5/2007 5:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Marie-Claire,
 
Those Starbucks caramel machiattos...I used to get those everyday and I swear I felt like a true junky because I would take the first sip and really feel like I was getting high. Then I'd float around Target (where our Starbucks was) and just be in bliss until I sucked the final drops out of the melting ice. But talk about high sugar!!!!! I quit those when I got my fissure because they would usually send me (and most people) straight to the toilet, which was always wickedly painful..
 
I don't know what it is about this time...I have quit almost cold turkey and I feel fine. I've even started shunning the high amounts in disgust, just one week later. A birthday cake with icing? YUCK!!!! Even the chocolate kisses I was sucking down seem like they would be too sweet now.
 
But bad habits usually get replaced by other bad habits..wonder what mine will be? devil
Bad fissure Feb 2005, still have it January 2006. On Pentasa and Imuran 100mg. Some slight swelling and ulceration of terminal ileum. No other symptoms. Now on Remicade!


EMom
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   Posted 9/5/2007 5:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi all....I just want to jump in here... Jelena, that link was really something! I emailed it to my mom who has had arthritis issues and IBS for years. She also has a colossal sweet tooth. Maybe that list of 146 will make a difference!!

I have a honey question. I am purchasing locally harvested honey. Would this be unpasteurized? It doesn't say that on the bottle, but it doesn't day "raw" either...

I have used Stevia now for many years and I like it better than other sweeteners. I have also used honey, but recently discovered agave nectar. Has anyone tried that? I suppose it probably doesn't have the health benefits that honey does, but it has a very low glycemic index... I just purchased it. Don't know if you can cook with it, but I like it better in drinks like coffee and tea.
EMom

Mother to 15 year old boy just diagnosed in June, 2007. Taking Asacol, just finished Prednisone, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, and a good multivitamin.


princesa
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   Posted 9/5/2007 7:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I've also experienced the sugar high. When I was in college, I started the day with pop-tart and Tang, had candy bars for mid-morning and mid-afternoon snacks, dessert after dinner, etc. I can remember biting into a Reese's cup and feeling that "high." At the time, I thought, "This is just wrong," but I kept on doing it. Sugar is one of the top offenders for food reactions/sensitivities and can literally cause addiction. Sugar Busters is another good book to check out.

http://www.amazon.com/New-Sugar-Busters-Leighton-Steward/dp/0345469585/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6060902-1888064?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189002169&sr=8-1
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
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Maintenance dose sulfasalazine
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps
 
 


Sugarmarie
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   Posted 9/5/2007 7:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I use Agave Nectar google it , its wonderful. I like the Amber one best.
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Mac_Gyver
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   Posted 9/5/2007 7:54 AM (GMT -7)   
I recently started using Hawaiian Lehua Honey as a sweetener. Its about $6 for a 16oz jar. I find it works well.
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MishBall2
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   Posted 9/5/2007 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, my name is Mish and I'm addicted to sugar. . .

I am soooo adicted to sugar. I'd be able to give up carbs before sugar.

I have changed to diet soda (NO MATTER HOW HORRIBLE IT TASTES) because I'm a big soda drinker. I swear the diet soda is tearing me up though. I'm waiting for the pounds to slink off, but they are really sticking in there. LOL
32 years old. Diagnosed in 2002ish. 
Taking Asacol, Lomotil TID, and on Remicade since 2004. 
Lower Bowel area only, except for the short stint (about 2 weeks) that I had mouth sores.  Also have external/anal fistula and anal/vaginal fistula. 
 

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