Anxiety and Crohn's

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romancandle
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   Posted 10/26/2007 4:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I always seem to post with stupid questions, but I'm kinda doing my own research into this. I would like personal experiences. Like I said before, I haven't been diagnosed with Crohn's...it's the last GI test left to run before I can truly claim the IBS diagnosis.

My personal experience has to deal with anxiety messing with my nausea. While food in most cases triggers a huge nausea attack that lands me in the hospital on IV nausea meds, I also deal with nausea caused by anxiety. The nausea caused by anxiety always rang "IBS" in my head, but is it possible to have Crohn's irritated by anxiety?

May be a stupid question, I apologize. This just makes a difference in what I think is going on with my body. I will be seeing a new GI doctor on the 1st of November though. Looking forward to getting some questions answered. I didn't know if it was one or the other that was triggered by anxiety, or if it could be both.
Dx'ed: Fibromyalgia, IBS, Bipolar NOS, and PTSD.
Taking: Compazine, Lamictal, Lithium, Neurontin, Trazodone, weekly B12 injection.

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gachrons
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   Posted 10/26/2007 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Are you having pains with the naeusea ?lol gail

romancandle
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   Posted 10/26/2007 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Sometimes, yes. Mainly cramping pains. I have no other symptoms. I was told on here by multiple people that you can have Crohn's with nausea being your only symptom. My nausea is dehabilitating. No nausea meds work properly, even the ones I'm on. I'd rather know if it's possible to have anxiety making Crohn's worse though.
Dx'ed: Fibromyalgia, IBS, Bipolar NOS, and PTSD.
Taking: Compazine, Lamictal, Lithium, Neurontin, Tigan, Trazodone, weekly B12 injection.


rootsmith
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   Posted 10/26/2007 4:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Anxiety, or stress, will make any disorder worse. I was doing really great until the end of Sept when I had a major stress in my life. This was more anxiety than I normally experience and I know it aggravated my gut. So I don't think you can say that if it gets worse with anxiety then it must be IBS.

When I was at my gi appt last time the NP I saw told me about a case they just had- the only symptom the person had was nausea for 5 years. No other symptoms. They did a colonoscopy and the diagnosis was crohn's.
10 years, many tests, 3 gi doctors, Pentasa 1000mg 3x day
diovan, simvastatin and now trying good ol' zoloft


FitzyK23
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   Posted 10/26/2007 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I see you have lots of conditions there. Is it possable one of your meds is causing your naseau? I have a close friend w/ panic disorder. She was throwing up daily and naseaus 24/7. Her doctor took her off her anti-depressant and within days the naseau went away. It sucked b/c it really helped her panic/depression but once they found the cause they found her a substitute drug and she is feeling much better. Maybe with your doctors permission you could stop one drug at a time to see if it is contributing to your issues.

Stress makes my crohns worse as does certain foods and early mornings or super late nights. I hope you get to the bottom of it soon. Also, have you been checked for ovarian cysts? When I had one my body had all the symptoms of being pregnant but I was 13 and it would have been the immaculate conception. Luckily my parents believed me.
25 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 2 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.
 
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FitzyK23
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   Posted 10/26/2007 5:20 PM (GMT -7)   
By the way Root- I think it was Zoloft that was wrecking havoc on my friends body.
25 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 2 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.
 
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romancandle
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   Posted 10/26/2007 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   
As far as my medication situation goes, I was on Lithium before I got sick. When I got sick, they took me off of it, like you suggested, to rule out the problem. I was still sick for a month, and on top of that, I got manic. So they put me back on the psych meds I'm on now [Lamictal, Lithium, Neurontin, and Trazodone]. I felt no increase in nausea, nor any new symptoms.

I was checked for ovarian cysts. I did have them a year ago, which hinted that my lower back pain [that eventually doc's found out was from Fibromyalgia] was caused by them. But my last exam three months ago showed no cysts.

I think the problem is...I can hardly eat at all. If my nausea meds work, I get small meals in. But when I'm nauseated, I can't eat. Food immediately comes back up. Sometimes I can't even hold down water, which is when I have to go to the ER and get IV fluids [important for me to have water for my Lithium].
Dx'ed: Fibromyalgia, IBS, Bipolar NOS, and PTSD.
Taking: Compazine, Lamictal, Lithium, Neurontin, Tigan, Trazodone, weekly B12 injection.


rootsmith
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   Posted 10/27/2007 5:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm not sure what you mean when you say you haven't been tested for crohn's yet. Do you mean the blood test? Because I would think that you would have had a full gi workup for the nausea. Or does that need to be done yet? If it hasn't, then I think maybe it might show something to explain the nausea you are having.

Fitzy- nausea is a very common side affect of all the SSRI's (zoloft, paxil, prozac etc etc) but it usually goes away. I took zoloft many years ago for a period of time and I remember the nausea starting out but this time I had no problems at all. I had an awful time with Cymbalta (not nausea, but other side effects) and also Lexapro (felt like I had the flu) Even though they are all the same kinds of drugs (Cymbalta is a little different) they all work on different drug drug receptor sites in the body, so one drug might cause a problem while another in the same class won't. I had this experience when they thought I had restless legs syndrome. They use drugs called dopamine agonists for that. Requip made me sick, Miralax was no problem. Neither worked though because I didn't have RLS

I hope you get to the bottom of this soon. Nausea is no fun and even more so when you have no idea what is causing it
10 years, many tests, 3 gi doctors, Pentasa 1000mg 3x day
diovan, simvastatin and now trying good ol' zoloft


romancandle
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   Posted 10/27/2007 6:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I've had the full GI work-up. I apologize for not elaborating :3 The last thing they needed to test for was Crohn's, but they weren't able to do it. They ended up giving me the dx of IBS, and I just went with it. I didn't think a person could have Crohn's with nausea as being the only/main symptom. But lately, ever since I've been at home with my parents, I've seen three more doctors when I'm violently ill, and they are saying that it's not likely that I have IBS and more likely that I have Crohn's.

I've been on quite a few antidepressants in my time [about 10], and none of the antidepressants gave me nausea. Now I know my mood stabilizer lithium needs to be changed, because it does increase the nausea a little bit...not a lot. It's just the form of lithium I'm taking [lithium carbonate]. I was told that switching to lithobid, another form of lithium, will cut down on the nausea. It's not a lot of nausea, but more nausea is the last thing I need.

I'd still like more stories on anxiety and Crohn's though instead of talking about whether or not I have Crohn's. I might, and I might not...it's a toss up really. I actually had another post I made about that a while back, and I don't want to repeat myself too much :3 Thanks for everyone's concern and suggestions though.
Dx'ed: Fibromyalgia, IBS, Bipolar NOS, and PTSD.
Taking: Compazine, Lamictal, Lithium, Neurontin, Tigan, Trazodone, weekly B12 injection.


dunny2
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   Posted 10/27/2007 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   
If you are asking whether anxiety increases with CD, for me I would say yes. I've always been a worrier, but I now get anxiety attacks
out of the blue. I don't sit and worry over my own mortality, but more about my life in general. This all could be coincidental, I may have
been this way anyhow, I'll never know! I am sure though that, when, people suffer with a chronic illness, anxiety always seems to be right
behind the Dx,.
I've been taking ativan for the last 4 years, I find these help to keep things on a level plain. I also think that anxiety and nausea goes hand
in hand. Maybe you could use something different for those times you are at your worse.
I don't know whether my "story" helps. I hope so...
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.


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Nanners
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   Posted 10/27/2007 9:02 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had Crohns for a long time.  I only had nausea on my first flare.  But now 30 something years later, thats my chief complaint.  Especially when I get stressed or anxious.  I immediately get nauseous!  I treat mine now with 8mg Zofran every morning and 25 mg Phenergan every night.  But when the anxiety hits I have to take Valium to chill out along with another 4mg Zofran.  Its weird I don't get anxious about things like where a bathroom or things with my job.  Mine comes when people upset me, or my husband whom I adore, occasionally turns into a idiot.  I can tell you the anxiety is a new symptom for me, and I hate it.   

Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


rootsmith
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   Posted 10/27/2007 10:40 AM (GMT -7)   
There was a time when people thought that stress *caused* crohn's (and some probably still think that) I once heard an RN saying "those crohn's patients are always so wired" so anxiety must make crohn's worse. But the extent probably is individual- worse for others etc.
10 years, many tests, 3 gi doctors, Pentasa 1000mg 3x day
diovan, simvastatin and now trying good ol' zoloft


Howlyncat
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   Posted 11/4/2007 5:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Nanners..........and others .....

I have CD and I also have Anxiety and Severe Panic attacks although they are getting better and it does make many with CD have anxiety and panic we have a few on the a/p forum ......I am also on valium for my a/p .......and take ativan when broken out in PG sores ........which are made worse with stress and trauma to the body .....even colonoscopy's! ........... LOL....My ex hubby also turns into a dang dumb... when I was anxious around him.........or others........

Antidepressants ...MOST ...can and will cause nausea when first starting them but it does subside and it usually takes a good 4 to 6 weeks for them to fully kick in and see a difference in self .......CD and many other Chronic Illnesses can also cause depression from slight to severe.........and agoraphobia ( not wanting to leave house or safe zone) which I can understand due to washroom issues .....ect.........

Pop over to the A/p forum if you would like for some input and support as well ........LYN

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yourmajesty
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   Posted 11/6/2007 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Nanners, I can completely relate. I have been living with Crohns a long time. I was diagnosed at 18, but am sure had it for several years prior. I am now just around the corner of turning 31, and what a ride I've had. I get anxious much easier now, and feel like I have lost control. And usually it doesn't stem so much from my crohns, but from other issues, or stressors. I think alot of my anxiety developed from the meds I was on. But now, my body still continues to fight off that anxious feeling at times. It stinks...and the nausea that comes with it, is no fun either!
30 yr female
1995-Crohns disease (removal of the terminal illeum and Cecum-followed by resection)
on and off flare ups/inflammation
1998-Duodenal ulcers(bleed out 1998/2005-blood transfusion)
2006-Anemia ( 2 Iron IV treatments) 
meds-30mg prevacid, vitamin b12 and vitamin e


Mormor Vicky
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   Posted 11/6/2007 1:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I too started feeling like I lived on the edge. Little things would make me jumpy. I noticed that whenever I was in the car with my husband, I would gasp and tense up if a car next to us started changing lanes. At least once a day I would jump while in the car with him. And he's a good driver. Now that I'm on cymbalta I'm much more calm and less anxious. I never thought I was depressed or had anxieties but I probably do.
Vicky / 47 years old
DX'd with Crohn's during a resection August 2006
DX'd with Steriod induced Diabetes November 2006
Considered in Clinical remission but have minor signs of disease activity
 
Daughter (26) also has Crohn's since she was 12.
 
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bektold
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   Posted 11/6/2007 1:43 PM (GMT -7)   

Anxiety has been a problem for me since shortly before I was diagnosed.  I'd had hemmie surgery and wasn't recovering well.  Or at all, really.  The surgeon acted like my problems were all in my head- he went so far as to tell me that I had developed "little old lady syndrome" at my last appointment- and had me and my family convinced for a while, too.  At that time I started with the agorphobia.  My mom had come to town to take care of me after the surgery, and she had to force me to start driving again.  I really freaked out when she went home.

Now that my disease is more stable, I'm able to live more normally.  When things kick up I still want to hole up in my cave and not go anywhere.  I just don't want to deal with anything or anyone.  But I'm not actively afraid of going out.  Usually, once I get where ever I'm going, I have a good time and I'm glad I went.  But getting out the door is still a struggle.

At the moment I'm probably dealing with some mild depression.  I'm so tired all the time, and my joints are giving me fits.  Some days it feels like I'm never going to feel normal again.  It's frustrating. 


there's Hope
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   Posted 11/7/2007 3:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I have always had anxiety and stomach problems from stress. Any time I got upset my stomach would bother me. After getting the Crohn's dx my anxiety skyrocketed, I believe the steroids caused major anxiety problems for me and the whole concept of being ill with no cure was terrifying! I had what they called adjustment disorder, I cried every time they told me about what was happening in my body. So I went to therapy and started attending anxiety reduction group, along with going on Celexa and Klonopin. The meds help me a lot and I am actually off of Klonopin now and doing very well with using my coping techniques to remain calm and cool about stuff. I get acupuncture for anxiety reduction and try to do things that make me feel good.
I think that stress and anxiety will worsen any illness, and so try the best you can to reduce stress and take care of you. Your body can't be happy if your mind isn't, it is all connected.
I do have constant nausea, every day since I have gotten CD I have been nauseous. I take Reglan and Phenergan every day to try and calm the nausea. I don't think anxiety and stress help my nausea at all, it always worsens it.
26 year old female. Dx with UC in June 2003. Flare up in June 2006 led to CD dx.
Current Meds: Remicade, Asacol, Bentyl, Phenergan, Reglan, Ultram, Celexa and Seaonale, Fish Oil, Lacto and a Multi Vitamin

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Jenn4dex
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   Posted 11/7/2007 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I get upper right quadrant pain immediately after stressing over anything. It seems to just set it off. I have to learn to not stress out, I am trying to learn to meditate as well.
Jennifer
Diagnosed 1/06
CD of Terminal Ileum
Taking Pentasa, Prograf, adverse reactions to Remicade, Forteo Injections, Actonel, Calcium and Vitamin D, B12 injections.

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