O'leary, and other ladies - about BV

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Optymystic
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   Posted 11/1/2007 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
 In my last post about a bacterial vaginal infection that won't clear up, O'leary mentioned that she couldn't remember a time since starting Crohn's medications that she didn't have BV.
 
I want to know if this is pretty common in female Crohns patients, and what do you do about it?
 
Does it ruin your sex life? 
 
If you stop taking 6-MP while on the antibiotic, can you get it cured?
 
Do yogurt and probiotics really help it go away, or just help keep it away once you get it cured with real antibiotics? I've already taken 4 rounds of antibiotics, and it keeps coming back within days of my last dose.  I  just don't feel like I should do more antibiotics right now, but I must get this to stop.
Age 41 female.
dx'd in April 2007 - feeling better now
4000mg Pentasa and 75mg 6-MP
Primal Defense probiotic by Garden of Life


gachrons
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   Posted 11/1/2007 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Haven't read your last post or O'leary's but is your partner passing it back and forth or is it not transmittable. Perhaps protection might help but I don't know . Hoping someone else can help here with this .lol gail

KaNDiCe21
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   Posted 11/1/2007 5:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey! I would like to know what the symptoms of that are...I might have one myself. Sorry I can't help you!
DX: Crohns in March 2007
Meds: Remicade


Optymystic
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   Posted 11/1/2007 5:51 PM (GMT -7)   
The main symptom is just a greenish colored discharge. It doesn't itch like a yeast infection. However, if the infection is bad enough your vagina can get pretty irritated and bleed during sex. It is possible to pass it back and forth between partners, too. I don't think men get any symptoms, they just hold on to it and give it back to you. Great to be a woman!! ; )
Age 41 female.
dx'd in April 2007 - feeling better now
4000mg Pentasa and 75mg 6-MP
Primal Defense probiotic by Garden of Life


JudyK89
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   Posted 11/2/2007 7:00 AM (GMT -7)   
If you're not getting it back from your partner, maybe you have a recto/vaginal fistula. I didn't know I had one until I went to the GYN for a vaginal infection (which of course the GYN couldn't figure out) and finally a new GI figured it out.
Judy
49 years old, Crohn's Disease   
Six resection surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicadeback on 6MP for maintenance, hoping for a long remission from this last surgery. 
 
 


Nanners
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   Posted 11/2/2007 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Only thing I can add to the above is you should always take probiotics anytime you take antibiotics. Actually you should be taking them all the time.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


broomhilda
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   Posted 11/2/2007 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
After my last course of antibiotics that send me in a vicious flare...I will never go without my probiotics during antibiotic therapy and every day forever after. Also, I won't miss my yogurt a day! Lesson learned here!
Dx'd Jan'06, 1st Resection 7/06, Predinsone, Humira, Imuran, B12 injections, Nexium. Secondary conditions: Psorasis, Acne, Fatigue, Joint Pain, Lactose Intolerant, gallstones, fibroid cysts, peri-menopausal.


Optymystic
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   Posted 11/3/2007 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Judy, Could your GYN not see the fistula during the exam? How do they diagnose that? Does the GI give some sort of rectal exam in the office?
Age 41 female.
dx'd in April 2007 - feeling better now
4000mg Pentasa and 75mg 6-MP
Primal Defense probiotic by Garden of Life


JudyK89
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   Posted 11/3/2007 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   
My GYN obviously never saw a fistula before, sent me for biopsies which the doctor who did them kept telling me it looked like herpes to him. My old GI said "you'll know if you have a recto/vaginial fistula" (well obviously I didn't). I finally got my insurance changed and went to a GI who was one of the top research doctors at the time, he took one look and told me what was wrong. Of course by this time I also had perianal and pelvic floor fistulas (that my GYN thought were more herpes outbreaks, sheesh).

My pap smears were very painful, and if I remember correctly so was intercourse. It felt sore and swollen like an infection to me, and my pap smears kept coming back a 3 (out of 5 I think?).

On the other hand, I've had so many yeast infections since I got this disease that I can't keep count. Mostly when I go on antibiotics. I've also had numerous bladder infections, but it's been quite some time now (although my GI said there's blood in my urine and suspects kidney stones).

I think for a definite diagnosis (and to see how big, how many tracks, etc.) they used a blue, contrast dye that they squirted into my rectum and watched it come through the vagina (and all the surrounding areas) by x-ray.

As far as it ruining my sex life, I was a newlywed at the time. God bless my husband, he was the most patient man a woman could ask for.
Judy
49 years old, Crohn's Disease   
Six resection surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicadeback on 6MP for maintenance, hoping for a long remission from this last surgery. 
 
 


Optymystic
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   Posted 11/4/2007 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Can a GI do an in office exam to look for fistulas? My GYN may not know what one is. I also did start taking my probiotics again.

Also, how to they treat men for this, (in case it's being passed back and forth)?
Age 41 female.
dx'd in April 2007 - feeling better now
4000mg Pentasa and 75mg 6-MP
Primal Defense probiotic by Garden of Life


JudyK89
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   Posted 11/4/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   
If it's an infection (which they can find out by doing a swab) you and your partner both will have to take antibiotics.

A GI can see a fistula depending on exactly where it is, and can highly suspect one depending on your symptoms.

If a rectovaginal fistula is still very small, it may be very hard to see, and you would need to do something like the dye contrast. It may not even be symptomatic like passing air and/or stool.

If you have an infection that has a high possibility of being caused by stool (your GYN should be able to tell you), it may be worth doing the test.

Regardless, you really need to have a discussion with your GI and your GYN if this is what you suspect. It could be that you are just more suseptible because you're on 6MP, but hopefully they will want to rule out the possibility of a fistula if these infections are recurrent.
Judy
49 years old, Crohn's Disease   
Six resection surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicadeback on 6MP for maintenance, hoping for a long remission from this last surgery. 
 
 


belleenstein
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   Posted 11/4/2007 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
A swab should be able to determine if there is fecal matter present. Get a culture done.
Belleenstein:

30+ years living with Crohn's.


chroniemomx2
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   Posted 11/4/2007 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I would tend to think it is fistula also. I have a rectal one that drains a greenish discharge at times. The problem with fistuas are that they can be so small and so hard to find. An MRI is one of the best tests out there to find them. I am having a pelvic mri on Thurs. to see if the one fistula I have is it or if there are more lurking!
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