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Jusdebbie
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   Posted 11/20/2007 3:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I have created a monster in me with eating.  I dont know what exactly it stems from but i contribute it to many things.  First of all, often i am so sick that i have no appetite so i eat the bare minimum.  Other times i have to refuse certain foods because of what i am afraid they are going to do to me.  Sometimes i just choose not to eat at all because thats when my belly feels best.  So... in the longrun this all backfires with me and i binge.  I literally lose control and eat everything and anything bad and huge quantities.  I literally bring on agony by this and i pay for it for days at a time.  It makes me physically feel awful and miserable but it also makes me mentally freaked out.  No joke, but Friday i weighed 103.  I went away for the weekend, ate terrible up until last night, and today i weighed 112.  I am in the fitness industry and know some is fluid retention but come on!  This is so bad for me.  I cant believe that i allow myself to contribute to making my disease worse.  Please tell me, does anyone else do this?  I truly feel its not an eating disorder (per se) but brought on moreso by the crohns yoyo lifestyle.  Ahhhh help!

pb4
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   Posted 11/20/2007 6:02 PM (GMT -7)   
If you're able to binge on healthy foods then that's okay...researchers say that processed foods and fast-foods exacerbate IBD symptoms and should be avoided...I know many people cannot tolerate eating fruits and veggies but perhaps try juicing them to get it in you rather than eating alot of unhealthy stuff that's likely making your CD symptoms worse.

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ddr030505
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   Posted 11/20/2007 8:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I know exactly how you feel!!! There are times that I can control myself and say NO its better not to eat that.. But, when I get depressed and mad at my Crohns.. i eat.. and eat ... and eat.. I vary in weight from 110-120 weekly.. I can not keep it steady.. It's tough not to give in when everyone else eats it all, and you used to and now you can't.. You just have to learn self control and know that you cannot eat certain things.. I have gotton good in the sence that I eat no more fast food.. I binge eat on home made foods. mashed potatoes.. or cheese and summer sausage..now. but never really anything good for me health wise..
23 year old married female Diagnosed Sept '03 still fighting for remission longest break was 9 mths
Asacol 6 400mg tabs aday
Entecort 9mg aday
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There are moments in your life that makes you and sets the course of who you're going to be. Sometimes there little, subtle moments. Sometimes, they're big moments you never saw coming. No one ask for their life to change, but it does. It's what you do afterwards that counts. That's when you find out who you are.
 


malakai
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   Posted 11/26/2007 5:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I've only done it once since I've been diagnosed. Sept 8th to be exact but I know as I get better and am able to eat more things, it might happen again. I guess I was so sick and tired of watching what I ate and feeling sick day after day eating the same foods over and over that when I was put in a situation where there was food that I loved and missed (my cousin's b'day bbq on the beach) and people around me eating and having a good time, I lost control and ate double of everything by me and ate everything not nailed down within my vicinity + drank carbonated beverages trying to pretend that it was alcohol since they were drinking sangria. I was sick as a dog for 2+ weeks. My acupuncturist says that moderation is the key but if we are newly diagnosed, we don't know what that set point is yet so we wind up binging and then not eating and then binging again. It's like an alcoholic that has been newly clean being brought to a bar where it's all rowdy and happening.

I haven't found my set point so I panic during group food situations and either cancel and don't go (I purposely worked on thanksgiving) or I LEAVE the premises until I feel safe to go back once everyone is done eating. (I know it sounds dumb but that is how I cope)

A couple of questions for you.... How long has it been since you have been diagnosed? Also, when you binge, are you by yourself or are you in a group setting where everyone else is eating?

Thanks for bringing this up.
Newbie - 35 yrs old Diagnosed: 08/03/07
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gachrons
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   Posted 11/26/2007 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi I have gained about 4 good sized turkeys and can say that I hope this pred. thing will be over some day for me. I guess all I can say is not to let yourself get too hungry. I don't know the answer that's for sure .You aren't fat but the pain you bring on is not good ,if you could eat without pain it wouldn't be so bad. Maybe when you feel like bingeing have yourself a list ready and follow the list .Put everything on it that is easy to digest and perhaps small amounts ,measure if you have to. Maybe by the time you get done making a few things you will get some control over what you eat. I find I over eat most when I feel like I am craving something . Perhaps you could do up a binge package that would have some things in it that won't bother you.lol gail

FitzyK23
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   Posted 11/26/2007 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   
What concerns me is the word "binge." I would say that yes we all occassionaly eat things we know we aren't supposed to and sometimes we eat lots of something we arent supposed to. Maybe I will call that splurging or cheating. But when I think binge I think of something more unhealthy, something more related emotional comfort or something out of your control that you can not stop. I'm not talking about eating some chocolate chip cookies and a cup of coffee and a cheeseburger at lunch etc. I'm talking about downing a whole pizza, then a half gallon of ice cream, and a 2 liter soda... stuff that would make a "healthy" person sick. If you are eating such large quantities that you think something is truly wrong then you should probably talk to your doctor. If you are just straying from your crohns diet and eating normal portions of stuff you know is bad for you then that is a different story. Its not smart but not an eating disorder. Unless, you were eating stuff you knew would make you sick so that you would lose weight. Then that gets into unhealthy behaviors.
26 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  Currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day, hysociamine prn, nexium, and ortho evra.  Good times!!!
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 11/26/2007 11:08 AM (GMT -7)   
It's a very mental thing...I had issues with over-eating, I didn't like it, it made my CD worse and for the first time in my life it was causing me to gain weight (I used to be one of those people who could eat whatever they wanted and as much of it too without gaining a pound, before CD and through my 20's and mid 30's with CD) it wasn't until I convinced myself very consciencely that food is only necessary for survival NEVER FOR COMFORT...I started drinking tons of water which fills you up, rather than eat everytime I thought I was hungry, instead I'd eat a small amount then fill up on water...finally my body/mind connection clicked in and I became in control again, not the food cravings.

Takes some time but it works.

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Jusdebbie
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Date Joined Jul 2007
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   Posted 11/26/2007 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks!

Malak, i have had this disease for 20 years now but only got real bad the past 2. I overeat alone often but occasionally discreetly in a group setting too.
Fitz, Yeh im afraid its more a binge yet not a whole pizza and 1/2 gal ice cream. It could be, however, 4 slices pizza, some ice cream, and then even some candy and chips too.

Theres no doubt its part mental and part comfort. Im afraid its only making things worse tho cuz i can go all week on maybe 1200 cals/day w only 10% fat or so and then come a weekend day eat 4000 cals and 40% fat. I know the shrinking and blowing up of my insides has to be horrific on this disease. Im just glad to know im not totally alone.

gumby44
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   Posted 11/26/2007 5:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Why are you going all week on only 1200 cals/day? Are you deliberately depriving yourself, or is that all you are able to eat? Don't worry about an exact definition of what is or is not an eating disorder. If it is causing significant pain for you, then it is a problem. Do you think it might help to see a therapist? It may help you to grieve all of the many losses associated with this rotten disease.
48 yr. old female, diagnosed with Crohn's Sept-Oct. 2007


Sarita
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   Posted 11/26/2007 6:07 PM (GMT -7)   

It's really hard and complex to deal with disordered eating resulting from psychological issues when you throw in a GI illness on top of it.  I've suffered with disordered eating patterns for years, since adolescence.  Having a GI problem just makes it all the more distressing because now there's two food-related issues to contend with: the mind and the stomach.  And sometimes you just can't separate them.  And sometimes you wonder how much they are related: do the stomach issues cause the disordered eating, or did the disordered eating cause the stomach issues?  And there is no good answer for that in most cases.  Not everyone with an eating disorder will develop Crohn's, and not everyone with Crohn's has an eating disorder, so making a correlation is difficult.

If you think about it, your "relationship" to food starts at the beginning of your life and your eating habits are set into motion at a very young age.  So if you start off with a jacked-up view of eating (due to parental influences, media influences, whatever), you're already going down a freaky path.  Then all of a sudden the food you DO eat starts causing diarrhea, abdominal pain, etc. and you find out you have Crohn's and wham, you have to be super-vigilant about your food.  But you already were before!  The horror!  It really is terrible. 

Even people with "good" eating habits will undoubtedly be frustrated by the limitations that come with chronic GI distress.  I'm sure everyone has their "whatever" moments and eats something they either unconsciously or consciously know may cause GI distress, just because it's an act of rebellion and control during a time that it seems we have very little control.

I could go on and on about all this...but my point is that you're not alone, and it would probably be a good idea to seek counseling, or start writing down your thoughts in a journal, and tell your GI and other docs what you are experiencing.  Hang in there and let us know how you're doing.


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