Unconventional remedy for chronic diarrhoea

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gemini kiwi
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   Posted Yesterday 2:50 PM (GMT -7)   
   Read in the paper that New York Doctors, writing in the American Journal of Gastroenterology, are praising an unconventional remedy for chrhnic diarrhoea.   The researchers surmised that sufferers might lack certain predator bacteria in the colon, (killed off, perhaps, by antibiotics) and thus might benefit from an infusion of bacteria from a person with a normal amount of such predatory bacteria among their faecal flora.   The therapy involves taking a "stool donation" from a healthy person, homogenising it in a blender and introducing it into the patient via a colonoscope.
 
  Any takers, ?  if so we want you all to form a nice orderly queue.   I  however will pass on this and will  continue to take my probiotic. :-)
Tess

FitzyK23
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   Posted Yesterday 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow, I just was lol at this concept. Too bad as potential recipients we couldn't qualify as donors. If they paid people to be stool donors I'd be rich!!!!! Maybe they will need some sample stool to compare to the healthy stool. I can provide them plenty but I will charge. And I am also going to charge extra for each pentasa bead.
26 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  Currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day, hysociamine prn, nexium, and ortho evra.  Good times!!!
 
 


belleenstein
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   Posted Yesterday 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
This treatment is being pioneered in Canada and is indicated for those with chronic diarrhea for at least a year after a C. difficile infection. It is called a feces transplant -- yuk
Belleenstein:

30+ years living with Crohn's.


pb4
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   Posted Yesterday 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Actually many UCers have been taking this approach for a few yrs now, most with much success I might add...afterall it seems to be more of a benefit for those suffering with proctitis (infalmmation of the rectom) and colitis (inflammation of the colon, also related to either UC or crohns as proctitis is).

Fecal bacterial therapy is what it's generally referred to.

One UCer I know of from another board uses his babies feces for this procedure, he does it at home on his own and vows to have great success with it...sounds gross I know, but IBD is gross....so, whatever works I say go for it.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


vid53
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   Posted Yesterday 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
My mom had crohnic diarrea until I told here to try  advantage probiotics. It stopped when she took this product and she coulnt be happier.You might want to try it.
 
Vid53

broomhilda
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   Posted 12/6/2007 9:27 PM (GMT -7)   
That is just nasty! Glad it works for some...but I'll have to be pretty desperate! And exactly what freak thought of that procedure anyway?!!!!
Dx'd Jan'06, 1st Resection 7/06, Predinsone, Humira, Imuran, B12 injections, Nexium. Secondary conditions: Psorasis, Acne, Fatigue, Joint Pain, Lactose Intolerant, gallstones, fibroid cysts, peri-menopausal.


FitzyK23
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   Posted 12/6/2007 9:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Probably the same people that thought of the South Park episode where he puts the food up his butt and poops out his mouth lol. When that doesnt gross kids out I just tell them when people have a bowel obstruction poop can come up lol!!!
26 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  Currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day, hysociamine prn, nexium, and ortho evra.  Good times!!!
 
 


thenay
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   Posted 12/6/2007 11:26 PM (GMT -7)   
^ I remember that episode, lol

Odd remedy tho.. hmmm..
Male DX with CD May 2006 @ age 22, Colonoscopy and SBT
Taking Prednisone 15mg (tapering), Imuran 75mg (eventually 150mg I was told), Atenolol 25mg for fast heartbeat (thanks Pred!)
Have used Pentasa, Entocort in the past
 
Have a safe and happy holiday everyone!


Jen77
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   Posted 12/7/2007 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Ewww, I think I'd rather keep trying the probiotic route myself. I hope they screen for any other diseases or illnesses before injecting it. Just too wierd for me, I agree I would have to be pretty desperate!
~Jennifer
 
Diagnosed with mild Crohn's Disease 2/06 after sever GI bleed. Has been suffering since 1998. History of rectal fistula and gallbladder removal. Currently taking Asacol and Questran.


mcleaver1969
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   Posted 12/7/2007 6:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I haven't read this article mentioned but what you said cracked me up...but to be honest with you-if a healthy "stool donation" would make me feel human again I would do it in a second.
Marci, 38 years old, Rockledge, FL
Dx with Crohn's disease March 2006, currently on bi-weekly Humira, daily 6mg Entocort, daily 2-3x 5mg hydrocodone (for pain), and daily 75mg Effexor, plus 3x per day heavy iron supplements for anemia


nikki0294
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   Posted 12/9/2007 4:43 PM (GMT -7)   
The stool transplant was and is still being performed by Dr. Brandt at Montifiore in NY.  The patients that usually opt for this are those with resistant  c.difficile infection who have not responded to vanco and flagyl for the treatment of c.diff.  These unfortunate people are left with no other option but to do the transplant or die from c.difficile.  There is a very virulent strain of c.diff called the canadian strain that is now here in the US.  It is resistant and a tough bug to get rid of.  This is done when IVIG therapy fails as well.  The idea was from a very brilliant GI doc, Dr. Borody, in Austrailia.  They actually treat UC and c.diff this way as well as other parasites and it is common treatment there...

passer
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   Posted 12/23/2007 5:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone know if Dr. Brandt does the procedure for UC patients? I am a UC patient in NY and I considering the procedure (it make sintuitive sense, that's for sure), but I do not know of any doctors that perform it for UC patients in NY.

Thanks all!

FallColors
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   Posted 12/23/2007 7:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I can see getting to a point where that would be an real option.... But can't they make it in pill form? And not brown-colored pills either. But then what would be the brand name? "Super Strength Poop Pills"? Or "Your Neighbor's Poop" Or how about "The Poop You Would Rather Have"?? Sorry, I'm still giddy from the other post about CD terminology.

Mar1anneC
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   Posted 12/24/2007 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh man. First the live worms and now this.

Smrtgrl96x
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   Posted 12/24/2007 9:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Is there a risk of disease transmission doing this? I mean, is it considered a "bodily fluid" and how would they test it? I'm glad doctors are thinking out of the box. It's not for me, but good luck to those who try it!
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