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gumby44
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   Posted 12/6/2007 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Can someone explain the concept of probiotics, or point me to a good website? I am wondering if you can develop a resistance to them just like antibiotics? A good overview article about Crohn's and probiotics would be so helpful. Thanks
48 yr. old female, diagnosed with Crohn's Sept-Oct. 2007


ozonehole
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   Posted Yesterday 9:01 AM (GMT -7)   
First of all, Google is your friend. Amazing what you can find out with a fast search. I ran a search on "probiotics crohn's disease" and found plenty, but interestingly most of the articles didn't have much positive news to report. Overall, the studies haven't shown a great deal of improvement (or any improvement at all) by patients taking probiotics. Some will dispute that, of course, but I'm not going to take sides.

What I can do is tell you what I use. I take a number of supplements, probiotics included. I'm not sure which ones are the most effective, but the combination has certainly improved my condition. Currently I'm taking:

1) vitamin A (fish oil type, not beta-carotene), 1 capsule per day
2) probiotics, 1 capsule per day
3) MSM, 1 to 3 times daily
4) selenium, 1 daily
5) multivitamin, 1 daily
6) fish oil or flaxseed oil, 1 to 3 times daily
7) lutein, 20 mg, 1 daily (this is for my eyes)
8) calcium, 1 daily
9) Digestive Advantage, 1 daily (for lactose intolerance)
10) vitamin C, 500 mg, 1 daily

Dietary changes:
1) No caffeine (OK, I sometimes cheat)
2) I avoid sugar. For sweetness, I use stevia.
3) Hot spices are strictly forbidden.

Drugs:
At present, only sulfasalazine, 4x daily. Mesalamine would be better, but it's a lot more expensive. I take brand-name Azulfidine (generic sulfasalazine was upsetting my stomach) which I buy in Mexico because it's a LOT cheaper down there.

Be wary of overdosing on supplements. On the above list, vitamin A and selenium should not be taken more than once daily as they can build up to toxic levels.

Hope the above helps.

regards,
Robert
Crohn's since 1988
3 resections

Post Edited (ozonehole) : 12/7/2007 9:00:44 AM (GMT-7)


EMom
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   Posted Yesterday 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Here's what Wikipedia says about probiotics:

"Probiotics are dietary supplements containing potentially beneficial bacteria or yeasts. According to the currently adopted definition by FAO/WHO, probiotics are: ‘Live microorganisms which when administered in adequate amounts confer a health benefit on the host’."

I think PB4 has a website or article she's posted in the past which advocates probiotics for Crohn's. Maybe she'll be along soon and post it again. Or you could search the archives...

We use Theralac. You can read about it by adding .com after the name. Their website is pretty extensive and informational, in my opinion. That said, there are a lot of good brands of probiotics out there, so I don't know that this one is any better than some of the others.

Good luck!
EMom

Grateful for everyone's help here!

Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium and a good multivitamin.

Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


pb4
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   Posted Yesterday 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Here is a research article regarding probiotics and IBD, specifically with VSL3...Just scroll to the top of the page to read the article from the beginning.
 
 
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2006/10/12/probiotics.html#skip300x250



You don't get a resistance to good bacteria, but it's key that you take probiotics daily in order to maintain a healthy gut flora, whether you're in remission or not they should be taken daily...a good one I use is Primadophilu Reuteri made by natures way, it has guaranteed intestinal release and aids with other issues as well, high cholesterol, lactose intolerance and for woman, vaginal health (still perfectly fine for men to take as well)...google it for more info, it's cheap and only one/day is needed compared to many that require up to 4 or more daily (that get's expensive especially if a bottle of only 30 already costs 30.00 and up which many of them do...the primadophilus I use costs 29.00 CDN and only requires one/day and that's for a bottle of 90 caps (so it lasts me 3 months).

:)


My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


gumby44
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   Posted 12/9/2007 5:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all the responses. I will look into it!
48 yr. old female, diagnosed with Crohn's Sept-Oct. 2007

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