I really could use some help right now......along with question about Zyprexa

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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/23/2008 6:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Everyone:  I have been on a mood stabilizer for about 1 1/2 years now.  It has been Lamictal to help with my mood swings.  As I cannot afford my prescriptions (I do not have health insurance) my therapist who is also my prescribing A.P.R.N. has been providing me with samples that she receives from the company sales rep. that supplies it.  This representative was unexpectedly let go from her job about 2 months ago and my therapist no longer receives samples.  She gave me samples instead for Zyprexa (w/a dosage of 5mg) but I have been afraid to use it.  I had looked over the pamphlet of possible effects that came with it and also looked at our message boards here to see how people felt about this drug.  All in all it scared me.
 
Therefore, for the past 2 months I have been scrounging to pay for it on my own.  The problem right now is I am out of money to pay for this - I need to still take care of my 2 daughters.  I ran out of my prescription and I have not taken this (or my Cymbalta) for several days now.
 
My mood swings have been really bad today.  I have been proud of myself the past 6 months or so for being able to keep it together and stay calm during challenging moments.  Right now I am embarrassed because on two important calls today I could not.
 
Okay...so my question is: Should I just give in and take the Zyprexa? To me it seems like this is now the only choice I have because my therapist had only that or Seroquel (which I already tried and makes me fuzzy and starving all the time.)  Last, I am down to my last 4 days of my semester in class and I am so behind and I'm scared something new could make me fuzzy and/or sick? 
 
I'm sorry..I seem to have lost my ability to stay calm and reason.  I do see my therapist at 3:00 tomorrow.  But right now I'm trying to make the most of the time I have left to stay calm and sane for homework.  Do I stay the way I am now and try to make the best of it? (And if so how do I deal with these mood swings and anxiety?) Or does anyone have anything good or encouraging to say about Zyprexa??
 
Thanks ahead,
Cass

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   Posted 4/23/2008 6:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I thnk that the best thing would be is to talk to your therapist tomorrow. Have you contacted human resources? You should be able to get medicaide to help you pay for medical and prescriptions. You have kids so you would qualify. I would talk to your therapist about different options for help. You might have to fill out a lot of forms but it is worth it. There is help out there and just because you are working a job doesn't mean that you are not eligable. You have house payments, you have to pay for food, utilities, phone, etc. With children in the home, that brings down your income to almost nothing. So if I were you, I would check it out and try to get some help.

Good luck, and keep posting and let us know how it goes.

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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/23/2008 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Karen: as usual thank you for responding so fast.  Because I am in school full-time right now I am not working. (As I am going to school for teaching I have been spending my days in the classroom trying to fulfill the schools requirement of completing 200 hours of observation time.  And then I will have to do 2 semesters of student teaching.)
 
For the past 2 years I have really been stretching to make ends meet with my alimoney and child support.  At this point, my only option would be to go and find a job too that I could get benefits with and I don't know how to juggle that (another topic for another day).
 
You have talked to me in the past as I get close to a class ending and you have seen how anxious and worked up I have been because I am always so far behind and am trying to get caught up.  How do I calm down here??  I have been shaking all night?
 
cass

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   Posted 4/23/2008 9:32 PM (GMT -7)   
The best thing that I know is breathing exercises.  Start by breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth.  It is called smelling the roses and blowing out the candles.  pursed lips are best on the outward breath.  If you can, do that about 10 - 20 times.  Then breathe through the nose counting your breaths.  about 20 times and continue as necessary.  That should slow down your heart rate some.  Try relaxing all of your muscles from head to toe.  Starting with each hair on your head, then your scalp, then your forehead.  Let the wrinkles in your forehead smoothe out into your face.  Close your eyes and picture relaxing every muscle in your body.  When you get to your legs you will feel the negative energy going out the ends of your toes.  Keep relaxing all the way down to the tips of every toe.   You can do this, just relax...

Hugs sweetie,

Karen


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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/23/2008 9:49 PM (GMT -7)   

Karen:  Okay, reading about the breathing makes sense and it has reminded me of a hypnosis tape that I did with my therapist close to 2 years ago.  I'm going to see if I can find that and do the two of them together and i know that will help.  I'm so glad that you wrote back again.  I have been a mess tonight and have just been crying nonstop.  Between almost no medicine for the past few days and the stress I feel awful.  And I also feel awful too because I honestly thought that I was getting a little bit better staying calmer and more logical on the phone with people when situations became stressful.  It appears that it was all the medicine and not me.  It just makes me wonder if I can ever be "me" again without the medicine?

cass


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   Posted 4/23/2008 10:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cass,

I am sorry that I couldn't respond sooner. I know that you have had a hard night. I think that the breathing will help you through.

I know how you feel about having to be on the medication. I did the same thing once. But I didn't taper or anything and I was a wreck. I felt like I would go flying off of the face of the earth at any minute. It was scarey. But I got back on a med shortly after that and I was okay. But I will have to be on medications the rest of my life and I just have to live with it. I don't like it one bit. But I found good medications for me and it really helps me keep sane. I don't feel drugged either, I just feel normal.

I hope that you feel better, you are in my thoughts and prayers.

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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/23/2008 10:07 PM (GMT -7)   

Karen:  There is no need for any apology.  You have been so quick and have been my rock tonight.  I truly appreciate it.  Right now I think I'm going to just finish out my cry and try to get it out of me before I do my tape.  Maybe between the two I can wear myself out, calm down and if I'm lucky get a few hours of sleep.

Thank you.

Cass


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   Posted 4/23/2008 10:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Cass,

If you get really bad, you might want to try the zyprexa, I don't know anything about it, but I don't think that she would have given it to you if she thought it would hurt you. Something to think about.

I am glad that I could help you.

hugs, Karen
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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/23/2008 10:16 PM (GMT -7)   

Karen:  Thank you.  I will seriously think about the zyprexa.  Perhaps I should stop reading the enclosed pamphlets and just go on faith.

(((HUGS)))))))) and thank you.

Cass

 


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   Posted 4/23/2008 10:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I just read the side effects on it, and some other things, I can see where you would be leary. That is scarey.

I guess you could wait and see how you feel, I am glad that you see her tomorrow. Maybe she has something else.

I am going to retire for the night, Take care Cass.

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   Posted 4/24/2008 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I have spent 7 years on and off of zyprea. I hated it for making me fat, but it stoppder the madnes (I experiencing a depression that dragged into leaden paralysis, o sub-type of depress. I was bsically catatonic. I took 80mg and. It is the best atypical on the market and compares well to first generation anti-pychosis

I was asked to sue them and I wenrt off the guy about how it kept me alive.
ZYprexa is the bsronegest, most effective atypical avaiable.

quietpai

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   Posted 4/24/2008 5:22 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you to everyone who took the time to read and respond to my post.  I spent a lot of the night and early morning thinking about your suggestions and they truly helped.

I did make it through the night last night --and I did not take the Zyprexa.  I met with my therapist (who is my prescribing A.P.R.N.) this afternoon and we had a long talk about it. I told her that I was really afraid of taking it after reading the enclosed pamphlet and hearing negative comments from others. She basically restated some of what she told me last time we briefly talked about it.  In regards to my two concerns about weight gain and issues such as developing diabetes, she told me that the dose that she is prescribing for me (i.e. 5 mg / I need to cut the tablet in half) is so low that she does not feel that I should be concerned about it. She indicated that these warnings would become issues in those taking higher dosages.  She reinforced that she thinks I need to be on it at this time and until the stress in my life (i.e. school, my children always getting sick and my family) begins to lessen. And that I should keep a positive attitude that when I graduate (and she is sure that I will graduate) things will get better. So, to wrap it up, I guess I just need to trust her on this and take the Zyprexa.  ..I must admit that I am still scared of it but I trust her so I will.  I'll take my first dose before I go to bed later tonight.  And she has promised that as long as she keeps receiving samples of Zyprexa and Cymbalta (which I also take) from the sales reps she will keep providing them to me so that I don't have to worry about having to pay for them at this point.

In the meanwhile, she has instructed me to stay focused.  I did not get any of my school work done last night and at 8:00 pm I am restarting now.  It is all due late Saturday evening when my class ends.  Based on forum remarks from the last few assignments, I am 97% positive that my professor has written me off; because out of 8 weeks, I have only handed work in from week 5.  Thus, I need to get about 7 assignments done by noon tomorrow before I call her and see if I can convince her to accept it and possibly grant me an extension to Tuesday morning to finish it up.  I'm afraid if I call her now before I hand work in she will pull the plug on me and I don't want to fail another class.

The thing is...I always get A's on the assignments that I hand in.  I love analyzing and writing so I always do well.  For me the whole problem is staying focused and not letting my depression and anxiety and financial issues get the best of me.  Because when this happens I freeze and then fail and I cannot afford to fail this class again too.

I am so sorry that I wrote so much here.  And if any of you are good about saying prayers...could you find a few seconds to ask for some inspiration and strength for me to get through the next few days??

Thanks,

Cass


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   Posted 4/24/2008 5:33 PM (GMT -7)   

Karen:  I just wanted to thank you again for spending so much time writing back and forth with me last night.  You have done that once before with me and I honestly do not know how I would have made it through either one of those times on my own.  Just the fact that you would wait to respond back to something I wrote to make sure I was okay, really helped.  Thank you for helping me not be "so alone" last night by being their live for me.

I believe that you truly have a gift when it comes to helping people.  And I am thankful that you were there for me last night.  So here are a yet return ((((((((HUGS)))))))))) for you.  I'll let you know how I am feeling tomorrow as I will be trying the Zyprexa in a few hours.

Cass

 


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   Posted 4/24/2008 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   

Quietpain:  Thank you for sharing your experience with Zyprexa with me.  Having multiple fears of just wanting to feel better again yet being afraid of the drug has been difficult and it is nice to hear a vote of confidence for it.  And I am glad that after having your medical problems from it that you are okay again and that it has helped you to keep everything in perspective. 

In regards to the weight, I used to be so skinny and I have gained so much that I look like a different person right now.  If I was to actually start exercising do you think that I could either lose some weight or maybe not gain more - while taking Zyprexa?  I am really scared of what to expect here and I don't mean to sound vain but I don't think I could handle gaining any more weight as it has gone up from 116 lbs to about 175 lbs.

Thanks,

Cass


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   Posted 4/24/2008 6:54 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Cass,

It does sound like your therapist is keeping your best interest at heart here.  I imagine that a half of a tablet would be safe.  I can see your point though, the side effects are scarey.  But it sounds like you wont be taking enough to bother you.  I am gald that you had the appointment with her today.  It sounds like she has a lot of faith in you. 

I take something similar to that called abilify.  And it helps me to concentrate on things.  It takes away obsessive thinking and helps to keep me in the now.  Though I am feeling like I might need an increase lately.  My mind is starting to worry and I get stressed a little easier.  It gets hard to shut it off.  But The abilify is for the same reasons that your zyprexa is and it helps a lot, plus it is a mood stableizer (sp).  I am glad that I started it.  It has really helped me a lot.

Thank you for what you said Cass, that really did make me feel good.  I feel so good when I find out that I helped somebody.  And I find you to be a very special hard working person.  You Always try so hard.  And I am sure that you are going to get your school work done and ace those exams.  I think that the medication will help you and everything is going to turn out good.  I am having faith in this. 

Make sure that you keep me posted on how things are going.  Let me know how the medication works.  Hope you have a relaxing evening and a restful night.  You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Luv and hugs, Karen


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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/24/2008 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you, Karen.  What you said actually brought "happy" tears to my eyes.  I never really thought of anyone else not being able to focus and getting stuck because of not being able to stop all the other thoughts going through their mind.  I guess I have always just thought of it as me -and I have never even stopped to think of someone else struggling with it as well.  Thank you for sharing that with me.  I guess I didn't think enough or fully realize that the medicine would help to stop that.  I have just thought of myself as a failure so much over these last few years.

I sincerely hope that you can work out your dosage to feel better too.  I appreciate all your kind comments and thoughts and support.  Since my divorce 3 years ago, I have felt so alone.  Right now it feels so reassuring to know that there is somebody out there who cares.

Thank you.

Cass

 

Post Edited (CassandraLee) : 4/24/2008 9:15:14 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 4/25/2008 6:36 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Cass,

You are such a sweetheart with the kind words of expression that you have said to me.  It really does make me feel good to hear that I may have helped you. 

And no you are not alone, you have us to help keep you going.  We are always here for you and will continue to be here.

I really hope that this medication helps you to feel better and think more clearly.  I get obsessive thoughts that I just can't get out of my head and consequently build mountains out of molehills.  We can control our thinking, or direct it so to speak.  We can even channel it to use it for good things.  It is all a matter of the right medication and a little work on our part. 

I have things that would normally really stress me out, but I have learned to put those thoughts away and focus on the now.  That is where the meditation comes into place.  You learn to train your mind to stay in the now and not wander around to unconstructive thoughts.  Things that distract you, I should say.  It all has to do with the mind and body connection.  I can always clue you in to some of that if you would like.  You can email me and I would be more than happy to help you with that.  My email address is in my profile.

I hope that you got a good nights sleep last night.  That is so important with all that you have going on.

We are getting some much needed rain today.  We had about 11 forest fires going yesterday accrossed the state.  I am a mushroom hunter and it has been warm enough but too dry for them to come up, so hopefully now they will pop.  They are so tastey to eat.  Yum...

Take care, keep me posted on how you are doing.

Luv and hugs, Karen


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