Warning: Rant Ahead, Anti Depressants and the Medical Community

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lunardance
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   Posted 7/20/2008 5:11 AM (GMT -7)   
This is something that drives me pretty crazy....WHY,WHY,,,,,OHHHHHHHHHH WHY, without fail, does every therapist, MD, pharmacist, nurse, counselor: in short EVERY member of the "medical" community quote the official "party line" when it comes to clients or patients who have had very adverse effects when trying to get off of SSRIS/anti-depressents? Why, when patients report horrible headaches, mind numbing fatigue. unending nausea,anxiety attacks, brain zaps, insomnia, extreme body pain and quite simply hell on earth, do they stick their head in the sand and say "anti-depressants are not addictive" and "there is no clinical evidence to support that" or just say "it's all in your head". Talk about abandonment. And you KNOW that in their daily practice they have to be encountering these "side effects" in other patients. It's just like when they thought benzodiazapines were the new "wonder drugs" and they were writing scripts for Valium for you if you had a hang nail and then the reports of horrible withdrawal upon cessation of the medication starting coming in and they STILL said "can't be the medication, must be the patient". And now benzos are a class two substance and you have to go in and SEE your doc before you get a new script. It's like I was sitting in my therapist's office and was telling her that the Celexa I'd just started taking was waking me up at 4 AM without fail with a bad case of the Daily Dreads and she just looked at me and said "oh no, Celexa doesn't do that". I took a peek at the side effect profile for Celexa and it said "insomnia" in English right there. What a joke. Sometimes personal experiences outweighs "clinical evidence."
Parkinson's disease, depression, anxiety disorder

"If you pursue evil with pleasure the pleasure passes away but the evil remains, if you pursue good with labor the good remains and the labor is not wasted."


stkitt
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   Posted 7/20/2008 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey there,

Hello and I am Kitt.  I understand what you are saying,  and I don't think addiction is the right word for the AD's. It is your bodies reaction to the withdrawal from the meds that causes the nasty side effects.  It is more like your brain has become dependent on this med and now without it you go into withdrawal physically.

I have been battling with my Pdoc re Cymbalta and I want off it but I know to go slow so she will work with me as she already accuses me of wanting to drive the bus. Hey...........my problem is I am a nurse and I know my rights and she is my physician and if she wants to fire me, fine.  I will advocate for me.

I think the sad part is no one mentions the awful withdrawal you will go through if taken off the med to quickly.  Even slowly you will still have side effects so I understand what you are saying.................

Glad you felt comfortable venting...................stick with us.

Gentle Hugs
Kitt


 

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Ne Ne
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   Posted 7/21/2008 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
eyes I understand right where your coming from.I've had more run ins with my doctors. Mine was not over anti-depressants but I don't think it really matters some times to any doctors when they know it all. I ended up in ICU for 3 day, and in a heart hospital, and had a catheter ran through my heart because, I had a reaction to a high blood pleasure pill. I was told by the doctors nurse that gave me the pill, I had to learn to live with some side effect from drugs. And then the doctor told me I needed help ( because I complained to much)and he pushed me over the top and now I do have to see someone. Needless to say he's not my doctor anymore. Trying to deal with so many things at the same time drives me crazy. You look to the doctors for answer to whats going on with you and most of the time your telling them what to do. I've learned more on the computer about crohn's and depression than the doctors have told me. Now my therapist wants me to some what forget I have crohn's and come up with something to do and talk about it when I go back to see her. I have a hard time putting the crohn's out of my mind. I do a lot of things, I do crafts, but my life has changed so much, I lost my job, and for quite awhile my life. I hate going to the doctor but I can't not so I have to play the games.


Dawn yeah
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getting by
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   Posted 7/21/2008 8:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I have fibromyalgia along with depression and I know what you mean about always having to go to the doctor. Everytime I turn around, I am going again. Maybe not to the same one, but to one of them. Our lives feel like they are in their hands. But I try to keep control of my pain instead of it controlling me. I try to keep busy too so that I don't dwell on it. That isn't always easy.

Just keep doing the things that you enjoy. Do you get disability? I am going to apply for it for the second time. Try to focus on things and hopefully the pain will eventually fade into the background. That is what they tell me anyway.

I hope that you feel better soon
best wishes,
hugs, Karen
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stkitt
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   Posted 7/22/2008 9:22 AM (GMT -7)   

I will try to put a smile on your faces...........my Pdoc is ready to fire me..........can you believe that??? Little ole easy going me?

She asked me if I needed surgery would I operate on myself?  Of course you know me and it was out of my mouth before I could stop myself................I said "Maybe"

I am the one living with the depression and anxiety and I won't be talked down to and have all my suggestions blown out of the water.

She may have some valid reasons for firing me.............ah well, nurses do not make good patients.

Hugs to all
Kitt


 

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getting by
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   Posted 7/22/2008 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
No they don't, one of my best friends was a nurse and she was the most stubborn and self relient person that I know. So when you say nurses make the worst patients. You are right! But Kitt, Iknow that you know yourself and know what might work for you. So maybe you fired her instead.

Stay happy,
hugs, Karen
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