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theswan
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   Posted 3/2/2009 5:15 AM (GMT -7)   
my doctor switched me to lexapro and progivil
 
I became full of anxiety and he gave me seraquel an anti psychotic. I hate this it made me worse.
 
Any expirence?
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   Posted 3/2/2009 6:10 AM (GMT -7)   
serquel makes you sleepy, so make sure when you take it you goto bed


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   Posted 3/2/2009 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey there,

Progivil is not a med I am very familiar with.  Could you tell us why your physician put you on Lexapro and Progivil ?

Thanks

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   Posted 3/2/2009 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Provigil is for energy. It should be taken in the morning. If it is making you anxious, there are other stimulants that you can try. Give the serequel a chance to work. The side effects should go away in a couple of weeks.

I hope that all works out for you. Just give it time, but if the side effects don't go away and become too bothersome, talk to your doctor about it. You may need an adjustment.

Keep posting and let us know how you are getting on with the medications.

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   Posted 3/2/2009 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
if your having issues with loss of energy, i would sound strange why your doctor would perscribe serquel, which is a known sleeping stimulant.. strange


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   Posted 3/2/2009 10:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I have both sadly

I hated the effect of the seroqel. I believe I'm withdrawing from the nefazadone still but am not sure.

I am not sleeping, am anxious and on edge. Fear grips me and I expect doom. This all came on the 4th day of the provigil and 5th day of lexapro. I was doing ok before then except for low mood lack of ambition and some sleep problems.

Now I feel afraid to go out and feel flat-no emotions except fear and worry.

This is horrible

Glen
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   Posted 3/2/2009 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Glen,

I imagine that the seroquel is to combat the edginess of the other two. So give it a try. I think that the nervousness will go away as you get use to the provigil. But I could be wrong. I couldn't take it as it caused diahrea and coldsores, also I got a sore throat from it. So I take adderall, that might be better for you. Just make sure you let your doctor know what is going on. I hope that things get better soon. And know that you have us now too.

Take care,

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theswan
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   Posted 3/2/2009 2:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks

It may be the lexapro that is causing the severe anxiety. I wrote the doctor an e-mail asking him if I can go back to the nefazadone. My depression was not fully gone but I was not in this horror state that I'm in now.

I hate medications but need them so I am in a tough spot.

I do not know how peole are expected to bear these side effects for so long. I wonder if I'm weak?

Glen
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   Posted 3/2/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
You are not weak Glen. I use to have the problem that I wouldn't get the side effects until I was at that six week point into the medications. I would think that something was going to help me, then I would get side effects so bad that I had to switch the medicatoins. That is really disappointing. I don't like meds but will have to be on them for the rest of my life. So I just try to get use to it.

I hope that you can switch the medications like you want to. If not, I hope that the side effects go away soon. Take care, keep posting.

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   Posted 3/2/2009 11:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Been on seroquel for 7 years, main therapy in aus is for schizophrenia, albeit it is used for chronic sleep disturbance and insomnia. Lexapro is the big daddy of anti-depressants when all others have failed. me, too much intense tingling to the head. jamiee.

theswan
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   Posted 3/4/2009 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Still very sick and unable to sleep.

Thoughs of killing myself rushed through my head. This is such a horror. I would not hurt myself but fear this condition will not end.

Please does anyone know what is happening?

These meds are worse then the depression right now

Glen
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   Posted 3/4/2009 10:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Maybe you could talk to your Dr about backing off the Provigil.  It doesn't help treat depression - it's just supposed to give you more energy during the day.
 
I think it's rare, but Provigil caused depression for me after 3 or 4 days.  My pARNP has not seen any other instances of this.  What dosage are you on?  It may be too much or you might not tolerate the Provigil.
 
Provigil does give me a boost - but I only take 25 mg of it and don't do it more than once a week.  That's way less than the typical dose which is probably more like 100 or 200 mg per day.  If you continue to take it - make sure it is early in the day or you won't be able to sleep.
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   Posted 3/4/2009 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry you're having to deal with all the side effects. It's frustrating to go change medicines in hopes of better days ahead, just to have to deal with more once you take the meds.

Seroquel is a mood stabilizer. It's supposed to level out the "peaks and valleys" of your emotions, and it also helps sleep. I just started taking it myself as I've dealt with insomnia for too long.

I hope you find some help with your situation soon. You are strong, and can make it through this!
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   Posted 3/4/2009 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Glen,

I am very concerned about you at this time.  I think that you should talk to your doctor about how you are feeling.  That is very important and I think that your doctor could help you at this point.

Here are some resources just in case you need them.

National Suicide Hotline
1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)
This is a combined network of the Amerian Association of Suicidology, the National Hopeline Network, CONTACT USA, and many other organizations. Call are automatically routed to the nearest crisis center to the phone from which the call for help is placed.

Helpful Web Sites:
Suicide Hotlines (listed by state)
Suicidal.com (includes Suicide Crisis Center and Depression and Suicide)
SuicidalTeens.com

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I really hope that you feel better soon.  You are going through a lot right now, and I think that you could use some extra help.  So please call your doctor and let them know how you are feeling.
 
And know that we really do care about you.
 
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theswan
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   Posted 3/4/2009 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
There is nothing he can do. He said It will get better as the nefazadone comes back into my chemistry.

I am so tired of this awful withdrawal or side effect or whatever. I will not go to the hospital as they cannot do anything more then my doctor has done already.

I will not hurt myself the thought is just that if I died I'd be out of pain but I know I will improve. I just need to hear from others that this will pass.

Thanks for the concern. I am in misery. I pray God gives me some sleep tonight.

Glen
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   Posted 3/4/2009 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you ever tried meditation? It helps you go to sleep. You probably have a lot on your mind and that is most likely keeping you awake. Try deep breathing also as you probably have anxiety creeping in because you can't sleep. It all becomes a viscous cycle.

I can help you with the meditation if you want me to. It is basically about clearing your mind. And relaxing your muscles. Starting at the top of your head going to the tips of your toes. It is a good way to relax and can be used to help you to fall asleep.

I really help that you feel better soon, and I think once the medication gets into your system you will. Keep posting and let us know how you are doing.

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theswan
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   Posted 3/4/2009 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
My mind is racing so much it is hard to meditate.

I am still about the same and of course dread the night. I want to sleep so badly.

My doctor will not perscribe ambien because I abused it. I feel it may help. I can't go that route however. I took it for years with no problem then when I got anxious over many things this year, I used it to calm me. I so regret this today.

Glen
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   Posted 3/4/2009 4:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Glen,

In my opinion, if you were having to take the ambien to calm you down. The doctor should have given you something for anxiety. Have you tried melatonin or any other natural sleep aids?

Working on the meditation would calm your mind. It would take all the other stuff off of your mind. Start by taking a few relaxing breaths. Then relax every muscle in your body, by starting with your scalp, work to your forehead, your eyes, nose, ears, mouth, chin, and jaw. Then go to your neck, front and back. Shoulders and on down. Really imagine your muscles relaxing in your mind. And to make sure that they are, tighten them up and let them relax.

Even if you don't get the whole thing, it will help you concentrate on something other than the thoughts that bother you. We can control our minds, we just have to set our minds up for it. You have more power than you think you do and it is time to start manipulating that. I know that you can do this.

Do you like to read? A nice relaxing book often helps, but it can't be anything that will stir up thoughts, like a murder mystery or any other violent type of books. Sometimes something boring is better. Do not exercise before bed, that only builds up more energy and it is harder to go to sleep.

I really do recommend that you try to take control of your mind and meditate. This could be a challenge for you. Something that you could learn to master. And it not only helps you sleep, it helps you thoughout your life, to have relaxation and peacefulness. The thinking is your problem. I have obsessive thinking and I take the abilify to help that. There was a time that I was always thinking of something, my mind never rested. That can cause so much mental fatigue.

Another trick that I do is when I can't fall asleep. I force myself to hold my eyes open. Eventually they close and I fall asleep. It is more of a reverse type of psychology, but it works. It may sound funny though.

I hope that you get some sleep tonight.

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theswan
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   Posted 3/5/2009 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I got some sleep and feel better.

Not great but an improvement.

I feel it was the provigil/lexapro switch that threw my system. I do have to get out of my head as it has been a rough year.

I' have moved in, lost my beloved cat and have had a sick father put into a home. This plus being on suboxone for a year for pain. I hate to be on anything as I am a recovering alcoholic yet I managed to abuse ambien this year.

My self esteem etc is shot and I am now with a woman who is bi-polar who I have lost feeling for. I love her but cannot love anything or anyone right now.

I feel trapped and so very sad.

Glen
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   Posted 3/5/2009 6:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Good morning Glen,

You can get past this. With the help of counseling and by posting here. We can help you. but you have to listen to what we have to offer.

Living with somebody with bipolar disease isn't easy as I am sure that you have noticed. So therefore you need some guidance for yourself. People say and do things that they don't mean with depression and bipolar disease. So I am sure that she has said and done some things to cause you not to feel the same way about her. But if you care about her, you will go to counseling to learn how to deal with her problems. It isn't easy, but if you care, it is worth the effort. You just need a support system right now.

I still dont' feel you intentionally abused your ambien, I think that you were only trying to combat anxiety. And that is probably the only way that you knew how. You have been through a lot of changes in the past year. Putting your father some where safe isn't easy. I had to do that with my mother and it was the best thing for her, though I felt bad about it. So don't beat yourself up over these things.

Counseling is the way for you to get better. And coming here can help, though we are not professionals, just other people with depression. We can give you the best advice that we can think of, but it doesn't compare with professional advice. So please think about it.

Take care,

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theswan
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   Posted 3/5/2009 12:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks and I don't disagree

I need to get over this crisis and then thinkof other things. I love this woman but the darn depression makes it hard to love anything or any one.

I agree Idid not eman to abuse the meds. I was in a horror story of having to move into a roach infested place due to losing my apartment due to it being sold. I had the roachs crawling on me at night. Then my dad gets sick and so on. I just could not cope with the anxiety attacks.

Anyway I felt better now more anxiety cameupon me. I've lost about twenty pounds due to not eating.

Auugh!

Glen
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   Posted 3/5/2009 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh dear,

You don't want to lose too much weight. So be careful there, your immune system can get run down. I am so happy that you are coming here for some advice. And I hope that we are helping you. Keep trying, you will see some light at the end of the tunnel soon. I know that you are trying hard and that is what counts.

Life can be such a series of ups and downs. When we are down, it seems like there is no end in sight. But we do come up again. It does take time, so be patient with yourself and try not to beat yourself up. Just have patience. I know that it is hard at times, but you can do it. And we will be here to help you.

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   Posted 3/5/2009 3:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I went for a walk and ate a lot. I forced some food but thats ok.

I am overweight 270 pounds but was 310 about 8 months ago. Today I was 260 I have tried to eat right and recently went back to the gym. I onlywent 3 times before this issue began. The weigh of 10 pounds lost is due to the anxiety.

I ahve chronic pain and take 16mg of suboxone which is a good drug as there is no tolarence issue like with pure agonist opioids, Still I hate the fact that I take an opioid. The "high" is not there but I get severe constipation and my libido is shot. I ger injections of testosterone which help but I missed last weeks shot due to this issue. That would have been my third injection.The doctor swears by them for all manner of disease.

I thank you for the quick response's. I believe there is indeed light up ahead. I am still having anxiety but it is not as profound. Until a person has these attacks they know nothing of the horror.

Thanks so much

Glen
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   Posted 3/5/2009 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there Glen,

Just so that you know and if you are ever interested, we have a super anxiety and panic forum. If it ever gets really bad, that forum would have good advice for you. It is true that others don't understand panic or anxiety. It is a terrible feeling and has a lot of physical symptoms also.

I think that it is great that you got out for a walk. Hopefully I will be able to do that also. Where I live we still have a lot of snow and ice so it is hard to get out for a walk. I have two dogs that I walk daily in the good weather, so between them, I get some exercise. I am so looking forward to the milder weather. It is coming soon.

I feel that HealingWell is a good place to come for advice. All of the members are wonderful people and are so kind and caring. I am glad that you have found us and are able to utilize what we have to offer. You are part of our family so don't be afraid to post on other threads also. I am sure that you have some good advice to offer also. You have been through a lot and I am sure that you understand a lot of the other members situations.

I hope that you have a wonderful day,
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theswan
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   Posted 3/5/2009 7:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Karen

We had some snow but it is the big city and it clears fast.I miss upstate and am homesick. Gee I miss my cat so much as well. Right now I'm feeling better but ahve a way to go. The anxiety comes back albeit mild.

I pray I get over this whole depression one day as I miss giving back. I was very active in AA service as well as a volunteer on Mondays at a local nursing home for my Church's Mass they give there. I'd bring the Eucharist to patients who could not get to Mass. I felt good about this more then the help I gave them. Sounds cliche but not at all it is true.I felt low self esteem for being disabled and this gave me purpose.

Yes I hope I will "give back" to help others here. My mantra when I pray for healing is "God help me so I can better serve You" I want only to be able to be of help but cannot when I'm this sick.

I worked 20 years in mental health mostly state hospital service so I know a thing or two about illness. I know first hand the horror of mental illness as well as second hand seeing all manner of suffering.
People who have mental illness who manage to live life have courage beyound what one see's on a battlefield.

Thanks for the help

Glen
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