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theswan
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   Posted 4/9/2009 10:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello again my friends
 
I am back due to insomnia. I tried Ambien after being off for quite a while and got sick from it. The "sick" is like a withdrawal effect "sick" I had ended up misusing it after several years of proper usage.
 
This is so sad as I took it three days and am still sick and unable to sleep. My depression had been helped a bit but now I have this darn insomnia along with a anxiety from the short use of Ambien.
 
I can not sleep so I sit here at the computer.
 
Help if possible!
 
 
This too shall pass


getting by
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   Posted 4/10/2009 8:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Swan,

I am so sorry that you can't sleep. Have you tried the time release ambien? I never have, but I do take ambien to sleep and it works well for me. I am sorry that it doesn't work for you.

Have you tried meditation? That also works well for me, as my mind wanders sometimes and that keeps me awake. I ran out of ambien this past month due to a change in the doctor's schedule. So I took an extra xanax at night and did meditation. That did help me fall asleep. Though I get a more restful sleep from the ambien.

I hope that you can find something that will help you. There is a medication called risperdol, that is often given to people who can't sleep at night, it shuts down that part of the brain that keeps thinking about things. You might want to talk to your doctor about that.

Best wishes to you.

Hugs, Karen
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Raniah
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   Posted 4/10/2009 4:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Swan,

It's tough when you can't sleep and you're feeling awful, especially when the boards aren't that active in the middle of the night and there aren't many people to talk to. I'm saddened to think of you here like that.

I agree with Karen on the meditation....I use it, too, and it does help. Even closing my eyes and taking deep breaths, and focusing only on the sound of those breaths, is helpful.

There are also some really good relaxation CDs out there, and guided meditations on CD, and I pull those out from time to time to help me relax, too.

During the day, if you are up to it, try to get some physical exercise. Sometimes it's easier to sleep if you've had physical activity during the day, preferably in the fresh air.

One thing I would not suggest.....and I'm guilty of this myself at times.....is using the computer when you are trying to get tired and go to sleep. The light of the monitor shining in your eyes is very stimulating to the brain, according to what I've read, and is a signal to our bodies to be alert and awake. I have tried it both ways, and I really believe there's some truth to that.

Good luck with your sleeplessness, and please let us know how it goes.

Tirzah
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   Posted 4/11/2009 12:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi!
I think you've gotten some great advice from Karen & Raniah. Couple other suggestions I might add is trying lavender -- it comes in several forms: pillow sprays, lotions, sachels -- & it really helps me, or maybe try a different prescription sleep aid. I also had a lot of problems with Ambien. I switched to Lunesta & that made a *huge* difference. I think it is also somewhat less habit-forming. Another option is Rozerem which is very unlikely to be habit forming.

Best wishes to you! I know how critical sleep is to our mental & physical health & do hope you find a way to get some rest soon.

peace,
frances

theswan
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   Posted 4/11/2009 3:35 AM (GMT -7)   
I am very sick still and very afraid to take another sleep drug

I misued them and now get very sick if I try them as I did

Thanks folks and please pray if you do for my mental health

Glen
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Raniah
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   Posted 4/11/2009 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck to you, Glen. I hope very much that you'll get some rest and things will improve.

Becky77
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   Posted 4/11/2009 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Glen

I think a lot of us here understand the insomnia that comes with depression. I have the same problem from time to time.

If you don't mind my asking, what happens when you're sick from the medicine? You said that this has happened before....did it pass with time? And also, how did you misuse the medicine....did you take more than prescribed?

I recently was put on seroquel, and it has made a world of difference in my sleep. It's actually a mood stabilizer, but helps you sleep as well. I would go and talk to your doctor about what's going on, and see if there's a solution out there for you.

I will keep you in my prayers, and hope that you start sleeping well soon.
Becky

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Currently on Humira, Prilosec, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D, sublingual B12; phenergan, ultram, clonazepam as needed


stkitt
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   Posted 4/11/2009 7:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Glen
I understand what it feels like to have insomnia......
Perhaps talk with your physician about using Trazodone which I use for sleep.
 
Using Trazodone as a sleep aid is a common "off-label" use of the medication. 
Seroquel "for sleep" is another med used off label that may help you.  My sister uses this med.
 
Of course each person is different and what works for one may not work for another.  It is worth discussing with your physician.
 
Good Luck
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theswan
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   Posted 4/11/2009 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I used the ambien for years without a problem then it became one.

I kicked it in November after using them even during the day to get over a rough patch of my life. It was hell and I could not believe I thougth I could use it safely again.

My insomnia got bad so I took a crazy chance and took a 5mg pill. I slept then next day took 5mg and another 5mg when I awoke too early. Two days later I got the Withdrawal effct sickness after only two days use and two days off! I tried one on Monday just to be sure it was the Ambien and yes indeed it was!

I am full of anxiety weakness worry fear and insomnia ten times worse.

I pray this ends soon I of course will not take another pill.

Glen
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getting by
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   Posted 4/11/2009 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I take ambien too. I just wondered why you would take it during the day? Did you want to sleep? Let me know.

Hugs, Karen
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Raniah
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   Posted 4/11/2009 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Glen,

I'm sure I'm not the norm here, as I have not been able to take sleep aids for years (even over the counter meds). The last time I was in the hospital, with what they thought were heart problems (turned out to be a very bad panic attack), I was given adivan (sp?) several times over the first 48 hours, even though my doc had specifically advised against it, and I had terrible withdrawal and continued anxiety after the fact. I did not feel better until I went on a one-week detox, which is what I have had to do over the years whenever I have had an allergic or other physically negative response to medications (I have an unfortunately long list of drug allergies and sensitivities.....makes it hard to get treated under hospital care!) I do understand what you mean about being sick afterwards and having withdrawal effects. This is part of the reason why I mentioned the alternative methods of relaxing and encouraging sleep in my earlier post.....because I cannot take sleep aids at all. I am very sorry you are suffering so much, and I hope you will try some of the other relaxation methods suggested by me and other members just to see if any of them help at all. I wish I could help more....I really don't know what else to suggest at this time. My prayers are with you, and I hope so much that you will be able to rest soon.

THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 4/12/2009 2:28 AM (GMT -7)   
know the insomnia stuff mate, take care, i hope you get some solid sleep mate. sorry haven't followed the thread, just wanted to give my support glen, jamie

theswan
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   Posted 4/12/2009 6:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Jamiee

I got some sleep thak God but am still in WD I am aghast that I actually got to apoitn where a sleeping pilll became an option.

I know of so many people that can take these and I guess I thought it would be like in the beginning and I would not get sick or hooked. I got so sick so fast that i am floored. Maybe this is just a real valuable lesson with a very high price.

Please pray for me all those that do and happy Easter
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