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soccerocks
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   Posted 7/28/2009 10:34 PM (GMT -7)   
hi, my councilor is calling my psychiatrist b/c hes worried about me possbly overdosing ibproven. i take 6 instead of 4 for headache/to escape the emotional pain. i almost took a total of 13 last sat but i got caught by my mom.
 
is that possible overdose or no?
 
could i possibly be admitted for 72 hours? my councilor says that may happen....
 
what kind of hospital is it if i were to be admitted? a normal general one or a psy hos?
 
can someone give me more info about being admitted and stuff?
 
thanks

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   Posted 7/29/2009 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I am not sure about being admitted to the hospital. But with what seems to be going on, I would bet that they would send you to a psych hospital. They probably want to get you on some medication that will help you and need to monitor you for a while.

Have they ever tried to figure out what is happening to cause the headaches? I think that would help you a lot. Let us know what happens.

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soccerocks
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   Posted 7/29/2009 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
ok thanks. well my councilor is worred for me. im taking so many ibprofen pills to escape the emotional pain i have been dealing with for 8-9 years.
 
Last night i took about 10 ibprofen pills and my med. one pill of Remeron
 
Should i be admitted to a psy hospital...how long will they keep me there? my councilor says 72 hours......
is psych hospital same as psych ward?

whats the difference between a psych hospital and a general hospital in my case?

is a psych hospital kinda like the one House went to last season? Cant wait till House starts this fall.....

Post Edited (soccerocks) : 7/29/2009 5:28:04 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/29/2009 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello, this is Kitt.  I would like you not to take so many Ibuprofen as this is not a good idea.  I would like to see you work with your PCP to discover what is causing the headaches and your Psychiatrist to work on finding out why you feel the need to take so many pills.
 
I think your Doctors knows you best so I would have to advise you to follow their sound advice.
 
Symptoms of a ibuprofen overdose include nausea, vomiting or stomach pain, dizziness, drowsiness, headache, ringing in the ears, blurred vision, seizures, sweating, numbness or tingling, little or no urine production, and slow breathing. As you can see too much of this medicine is not good so talk with your Doctor and do stop with the self medicating.  We care about you.

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Steelcody36
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   Posted 7/29/2009 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
If you all could read, it sounds like this poster takes the pills without any pain at all. If this is the case than quit being stupid! You could very well destroy your insides taking this many pills, you are abusing them. I'm sorry but you just cannot put yourself through that. You need to think before you act and realize how harmful what you are doing could be for your body.

Tirzah
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   Posted 7/29/2009 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Soccer,
I really do think you should consider getting help voluntarily. Taking OTC ibuprofen on a daily basis, even if there is a legit reason is really not advisable (unless you are under a doctor's care & your doctor has told you it's okay for a short while). My g-ma ended up in the regular hospital for doing that b/c she caused a bleeding ulcer in her stomach. She had pain, but right on the Advil bottle it says that if your symptoms do not improve within 7 days, that you are supposed to consult a physician.

You may well be sent to a regular hospital for evaluation & any needed emergency treatments first, followed by a stay at the psych hospital or the psych ward of a large medical hospital. They can involuntarily commit you for 72 hours, but then the psychiatrist would evaluate you to determine whether you still were a danger to yourself. If it is determined that you are, they can go before a judge and ask to keep you for longer than the 72 hours. Trust me, in the U.S. at least, it is WAY better to commit yourself than to be involuntarily committed. Involuntary commitment carries lasting consequences -- you need to report it on most job applications, for background checks, etc. -- whereas voluntary commitment usually is not reported.

I understand that you are feeling terribly depressed, but there are medications to treat depression. Ibuprofen is not one of those. If you do go into the hospital, you can get help, set-up a plan to stop using the ibuprofen for purposes it's not intended for & to start on a new medication. You have a lot more control over when you leave if you've checked yourself in (you can't just leave whenever you want to, but you do have more of a say b/c the mental health workers belief that at least you are able to realize when things are reaching crisis levels).

I only saw part of the House episode where he is committed. Pretty much, I would say it is a work of fiction. That's not to say that there aren't parts of that show that would happen in certain psych wards, but I can't imagine that all the things that happened on the show would happen at once in one place.

In any case, I am really very worried about you. Please do get help for yourself. Go to the ER or call 911 if you cannot reach your psychiatrist/counselor. Keep us posted of any positive developments.

blessings,
Frances
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soccerocks
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   Posted 7/29/2009 10:28 PM (GMT -7)   
ok so its best that admit myself to a psych hospital? should i wait until i see what my psychiatrist says? i told my councilor all of this and he said he'll let my psychiatrist know.

should i admit myself to a psych hospital....how do i not let my parents know? i have a permit, i dont want them to worry,etc.

what do i need to know about admitting myself to a psych hospital and about what to bring and stuff for the stay?

THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 7/30/2009 12:43 AM (GMT -7)   
just go to the psychiatric triage dept. this way you can be assessed for the right treatment/admission process. you can advise the psych nurse, providing you are being admitted of someone who can pick up needed stuff. just go with your info, meds, name of psychiatrist, dr. and what meds you are taking and what has been happing with them. you need to be very honest. agree strongly with frances, going in voluntarily is better than being sectioned. here in australia it is very much a better process to be admitted voluntarily-and no matter where you are it is the same. this way you are involved in all treatment and theraputic options, otherwise sectioned well.........i think you get the picture. i wish you well. no shame in seeking an admission, for me i have had many, and if you co-operate with help you will find the experience extremely helpful. jamie 

soccerocks
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   Posted 7/30/2009 11:32 AM (GMT -7)   
ok thanks. i have a question about admitting to a psych hospital.

will not be able to own a firearm in the future in i admit myself or be involuntarily admitted?

cus i would like to be able to own a firearm in the future for protection.....

whats the experience like being admitted to a psych hospital/psych ward?

Tirzah
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   Posted 7/30/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Soccer,
It depends on your state's laws, but generally people who are voluntarily committed are still permitted to obtain firearms -- some states require a 2 year record of good mental health. Some may be stricter, I'm not sure. Certain states do not perform any sort of background checks at all, so it really just depends.

But what you are doing right now is really dangerous & I think you need to choose living & getting healthy over firearms, if it comes down to it. Not getting help b/c you are worried you won't be able to purchase a gun in the future is really not a bright idea.

I'm not sure what you mean by "I have a permit". Are you talking about a driver's permit? If so, the hospital will almost certainly report to your parents since you will need to list a legal guardian to make decisions for you while you are on the ward. They also almost never release a person who was self-injuring on their own; usually a family member would need to come to pick you up & sign the release instructions saying that they will keep an eye on you & call the hospital if you start to hurt yourself again. Beyond that, it is incredibly expensive to stay in a psychiatric hospital/ward, so if you can submit it through your parents' insurance that's a good idea.

You can typically bring anything that cannot be used as a weapon. That is, no shoelaces, no chains, no drawstrings in pants, nothing sharp, nothing with cords (blowdryers or such), no over-the-counter meds & nothing in which something dangerous could be hidden (pillows, stuffed animals or such). Prescription meds may or may not be taken from you. Certain meds can be prescribed by the staff doctors. Pain meds are generally not permitted.
You can bring journals as long as they are not those wire spiral notebooks, paper, books, or crafts. Some places will allow you to bring cards as long as you're willing to play for fun & not to gamble. Some hospitals will allow cigarette smoking at certain times of the day, others do not allow smoking at all.
Know that ALL of your possessions, including the clothes you come in with, will be searched thoroughly & any items deemed to be dangerous or not conducive to healing (games, cell phones, etc.) will be taken from you & put in storage. You should not take more than $20 cash. Do not take more than one credit card. Bring your insurance card & a photo ID. Bring a paper list with local numbers of family & friends (usually you will be permitted to make at least one phone call per day to a local phone number -- sometimes they limit it to family, but usually calling friends is permitted as long as they are not deemed a negative influence).
Bring all your toiletry items -- soap, shampoo, toothbrush, toothpaste, comb/brush, etc. Do not bring dental floss or mouthwash as those items will be taken away. Keep things simple, as styling products & other "luxuries" are not permitted. Sometimes the nurses will keep your toiletries & supervise your use of them, other times they will let you keep some or all of those items in your room (it depends on the doctor's orders for what is to be considered a danger to you & what is a danger to your roommate). Usually they can get you the necessities if you forget something, but generally it is best if you can remember most items.
Do not pack your items in a really nice bag, or take anything that you would terribly miss if it were lost as that does happen far more often than it should. The nurses are focused on patient care & caring for belongings often falls to the wayside. Your bag will be taken away from you due to the straps & put in storage as soon as it is unpacked, so that is why I am suggesting it not be too nice.

Jamiee gave you good advice about going to the psychiatric triage unit. However, not all hospitals are large enough to have a psych triage (at least here in the U.S.) so if you are not going to a dedicated psychiatric hospital, you can just go to the ER at any medical hospital, tell them what is going on & the triage nurse will direct you what to do (not all hospitals have psych wards, so sometimes it means waiting until a mental health worker can be called in to evaluate you). If you can get a hold of your psychiatrist & get pre-admitted, that would be much better b/c you wouldn't have to wait or go through lengthy evaluations. BUT, the waiting is well worth it if you need immediate help b/c you can't get in touch with your psychiatrist & you are planning to take an overdose of ibuprofen. If you go to the ER, you can give them the name of your psychiatrist & that should help some with the waiting time.

Things really can get better. Making good decisions one at a time will get you there. I was so miserable every minute of every day 2 years ago. After a lot of help, I have gotten much, much better. I still have my bad days, but they are far fewer & not nearly as horrible & overwhelming as they used to be. But it took me laying everything else aside (what will people think of me, what if I can't serve in the military, how will this affect my ability to get a job, will colleges ask about this & refuse to let me in b/c I went to the hospital, etc.), to finally realize what the right decisions were. As it turned out, going in voluntarily meant that, in my state at least, I don't have to report it anywhere to anybody. That has been a huge relief, but honestly, looking back, even if it cost me those things, it would have been worth it b/c I would still be alive.

I hope you make the best choice for your health & your life. Let us know how we can support you & keep taking care of yourself.

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Frances
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THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 7/30/2009 9:40 PM (GMT -7)   
the experience is very dependant on circumstance, in being co-operative, etc. i just feel it is important. jamie. i wish you well.

Post Edited By Moderator (Frances_2008) : 7/31/2009 9:16:37 PM (GMT-6)


soccerocks
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   Posted 7/30/2009 9:41 PM (GMT -7)   
ah, that makes sense. thank you guys so much for helping me! although i did take 7 ibprofen today even though i had little to no headache at the time. i'll just wait till i see my psychiatrist and talk to her about vol. admit to a psych ward.

thanks again

THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 7/31/2009 12:03 AM (GMT -7)   
good, am pleased. be careful with your medication and or other medications. you are on the right track with seeking professional assessment. all the best. jamie

soccerocks
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   Posted 7/31/2009 12:41 AM (GMT -7)   
i started my new med(Remeron) wedsday. i missed two days so far. should i keep taking them or no? how will i know if i'll only abuse the ibprofen and not my meds?

THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 7/31/2009 4:20 AM (GMT -7)   
flush the ibrophen. not a doc but i would reinstate the remeron. put a note or mark on the bottle. keep safe and well. jamie. if need assistance call an assistance number in your area. this way you can confidentally communicate without any fear of reprisal or breach in cobfidence. good luck. jamie.

AngMichelle
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   Posted 7/31/2009 9:29 AM (GMT -7)   
i Think we need to remember we're talking to an under aged person here. Sweetheart, I know its one of the hardest things to do but you need to talk to your parents. IF you do go to a hospital, they are going to involve your family so you may as well start the process.
I was surprised at how well my parents handled it when I had to go to a Psych Hospital. They only wanted to know how to help and wanted the best for me. I'm sure your parents would feel the same way.
I know how it is to take pills to cover the emotional pain of things. I didn't even know I was doing it b/c I had physical pain too. But when the pain went away physically, it didn't emotionally and I still "needed" the meds. Its been a few months now that I've been off the pain meds and I really do feel better, but its still hard.
Its good your seeing a doctor about this, and you have to be TOTALLY honest with him/her.
The habit you have is not good for your emotions, and I can't imagine what it can be doing to your stomach.
Know that life can get better but sometime when it takes a long time to see the positives, you need a little help.
But you have to realize there is no reason to do it alone. Involve your family! They are going through this too, believe it or not.
I am 24 and have gone through depression/pain/illness since I was in middle school so I hope I can say I understand.
I'm still a major work in process, but I will make it and SO WILL YOU.
Best to you dear,
Ang
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On Jan 17th 2008 I had a very traumatic situation ending in a colostomy. had the reversal which put me through months of hell, but better now. I have had over 12 pretty major surgeries, 100's of "procedures", my immune system is a NO GO. I've been in and out of the hospital for the last 10 years. I have no real Dx's really. I have a lot of "Psuedo" (sp?) symptoms, so they say. This in just 24 years and its just half the story. (Violin's playing yet?)

Meds: Celexa, Klonopin, getting off pain meds.
(to date doing IV home infusions of antibiotics for pneumonia and staph)

May God give you a reason to smile today, an extra reason to laugh, and bring joy to your soul.


Steelcody36
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   Posted 7/31/2009 9:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Once again though, stop taking the pain meds for no reason! I guess I don't understand the lack of will power in these cases. I am suffering from depression and have been for over a year but I can't imagine ODing on pain meds thinking it would help me mentally.


Please tell your parents you need help, I wish you the best.

Post Edited By Moderator (Frances_2008) : 7/31/2009 9:18:50 PM (GMT-6)


soccerocks
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   Posted 7/31/2009 1:34 PM (GMT -7)   
m not underage. im 18

soccerocks
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   Posted 7/31/2009 1:36 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks everyone whos helping me so far!!

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   Posted 7/31/2009 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Soccerocks,

I agree that you shouldn't hjide anything from your parents or from your doctor. Ibuprophin can cause internal bleeding. It is really hard on the stomache. It sounds like you need to take your remeron. Especially if the psychiatrist prescribed it for you. But remember it can take four to six weeks before it reaches it's full effect. So be patient.

I don't know that you need to admit yourself to the hospital, but I do think you need to consider talking about it to your psychiatrist. And you do need medications and counseling. You really need the extra help right now.

It sounds like you are doing a little bit better so keep up the good work.

Best wishes,

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Tirzah
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   Posted 7/31/2009 8:30 PM (GMT -7)   
All,
I took out the political debates. It is not permitted under the Forum Rules b/c it distracts from the true purpose of this website -- to support one another. :)

Soccer,
You are awfully close to violating Rule #1. You are welcome to keep coming here for support, but if you are going to keep posting that you are doing things to endanger your life, your posts will be edited. Maybe you can find a counselor or psychiatrist who can listen to all of the details about how you want to/have/are harming yourself. I'm not saying there couldn't be any value in talking about those things, but many of our members are struggling against self-harming thoughts & behaviors themselves and it is really not healthy to have to be reading about the specific things you are doing to harm yourself.
I and many others here genuinely do want to support you, but it sounds like you may need intensive professional help. I know I & others here have gone through Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) and found it to be very helpful in changing compulsive thoughts & behaviors. I'm not sure whether or not that would be helpful to you in your case, but it is often helpful to those who continually, routinely choose self-harming behaviors. Perhaps it might be something you would like to look into.

Please do take care of yourself. Know that you are welcome to keep asking questions & asking for support, please just direct any specific self-harming information to the pro's. ;)

peace,
Frances
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THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 8/1/2009 4:29 AM (GMT -7)   
apologies frances. was just worried about the issues of this persons protection method.
 
kind regards. jamie

AngMichelle
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   Posted 8/1/2009 1:00 PM (GMT -7)   
sorry I didn't know you were 18, I just remember you saying you had a permit so I thought you were like 15 or something.
Just want you to know there are other options and I think your realizing that now. I wish you the BEST. Keeping us updated.
I still suggest talking to your family, especially if you live with them. I had to.
Ang
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Migraines, Ovarian Cyst, repeat and multiple jaw dislocations, depression/anxiety, PTSD, and the list goes on
On Jan 17th 2008 I had a very traumatic situation ending in a colostomy. had the reversal which put me through months of hell, but better now. I have had over 12 pretty major surgeries, 100's of "procedures", my immune system is a NO GO. I've been in and out of the hospital for the last 10 years. I have no real Dx's really. I have a lot of "Psuedo" (sp?) symptoms, so they say. This in just 24 years and its just half the story. (Violin's playing yet?)

Meds: Celexa, Klonopin, getting off pain meds.
(to date doing IV home infusions of antibiotics for pneumonia and staph)

May God give you a reason to smile today, an extra reason to laugh, and bring joy to your soul.


soccerocks
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   Posted 8/16/2009 2:23 AM (GMT -7)   
hi everyone long time no see. well just broke up with my gf....hard to do:( feel guilty for hurting her:/ drama between me and her made my depression and axiety increase last couple weeks!!!

i scared my councilor by sending him a email of what i was feeling...looked like i commited suicide. which i didnt.....but i truely felt that low at the time.

so parents through out ALL of the advil/including my medications....

so i just feel lonely, depressed right now:(

want to feel loved...

THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 8/16/2009 2:40 AM (GMT -7)   
hey, time for a deep and meaningful. time to talk with parents, real talking, am sorry for your situation, albeit i srongly urge you to seek professional assistance. jamie. keep safe, we care about you, ok.
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