Depression and seasons change

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JeannieM
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   Posted 9/14/2009 11:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello everyone!!! I don't post often but I do read the board all the time. Guess there are times I feel I don't have much to contribute.
 
Anyhow I've noticed something the last few years. Seems when the seasons change from summer to fall, my depression worsens. Anyone else notice this? I'm not really sure if it's the though of the impending winter (I live in PA), heating bills, etc. Or if it actually has something to do with the barometric pressure changes or whatever.
 
The last few weeks have been really bad for me. I'm on 40 mg celexa (well the generic version). I gave up fighting the insurance company to cover the cymbalta. I try and put on a happy face for my family and at work but deep down I'm dying inside.
 
Thanks for listening.

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   Posted 9/14/2009 1:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello and please know you are not alone as many people have difficulty with the changing of the seasons.
 
How long have you been on your medication?  Also did the Cymbalta work for you when you were on it?
 
Just a few questions which may help me better understand where your at right now.
 
Don't give up and keep on talking to us.
 
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   Posted 9/14/2009 8:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you tried a lite box? I use to use one. Also taking some vitamin D3 will help you. I take it all year around but more in the winter. You can take a lot of it with out any adverse effects. I was taking 3000iu at first. Now I take about 1000 a day.

I would talk to a psychiatrist about the light box if you don't already have one. They really do help. You can turn it on for about 30 minutes in the morning when drinking coffee or reading.

I hope that you find out what works for you. Best wishes,

Hugs, Karen
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THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 9/15/2009 1:23 AM (GMT -7)   
could be s.a.d.s seasonal adjustment deficiet syndrome. yes, light box treatment is useful for this. thanks for posting, you are a good contributor, and this issue effects many people. hope you feel better real soon. keep posting. jamie

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   Posted 9/15/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jeanne,

I always suffer from S.A.D. Tune into your usual backups for depression: therapy, meds, etc, as well as a light box. Let your psych know what you're experiencing, and maybe you can get a boost to your usual regime.

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JeannieM
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   Posted 9/15/2009 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks!! I may ask my PCP about a light box as I am not currently in therapy. I live in a fairly rural area and the only psychiatrist around here and I do not see eye to eye. I've been on the 40 mg celexa for about a year or so now, maybe longer. Yes the cymbalta did seem to help the 2 months or so I was on it (free samples from the dr. and a month free from cymbalta) but it can help alot but if you can't afford it... well you know. On my insurance plan cymbalta is a tier 3 drug. Even if the insurance co. would have approved me taking it, my copay would have been 75.00 a month, and I can't afford it. Looked into the free prescription plans but make too much. One of those wonderful catch 22's.
 
I will try and post more often, like I said before there are times I just feel like what's the point, no one wants to hear what I've got to say anyhow.

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   Posted 9/15/2009 9:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie,
Lovely name you have there... I suffer from S.A.D. and chronic depression along with fibro. I've been able to manage very well on generic prozac (Sams Club Pharmacy, $10 for 3 months) along with a light box I bought for myself online on eBay. No insurance so I make the best of what I can. The light box (mine is called a Happy Lite) is a Godsend! Good luck with this.
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   Posted 9/18/2009 1:47 AM (GMT -7)   

I suffer from S.A.D, however im the polar opposite to most. Warm weather and sunshine agitates and distresses me. I love cold weather, rain, storm clouds etc. I absolutely thrive in winter and end up quite depressed and anxious in the summer/warmer months. I have blackout curtains in my room to help me sleep and to avoid sunlight- I am extremely sensitive to sunlight.

Just thought id offer a different perspective and I do hope you find relief,

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THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 9/18/2009 4:25 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for sharing maz. good to see you posting. take care. jamie.
 
smurf   smurf smurf

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   Posted 9/19/2009 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I have noticed a lot of depressed people this time of year. I love autumn myself and welcome earlier sunsets. But I know that the amount of sunshine really effects us. That is why I recommend the light box and the vite D3.

Keep on trying, that is what matters.

Hugs, Karen
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Mazfire
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   Posted 9/19/2009 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   

Purely out of interest/curiosity, does anyone else suffer in summer like me? Or am I just weird? lol rolleyes

Honestly, sunny, warm weather actually distresses me and I see a noticeable change in my emotions. Summer makes me unhappy- which is stupid, cos summer in Australia is actually really awesome!

Love-

Maz XX


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 'He heals the broken hearted and binds up their wounds.' (Psalm 147:3)
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OCD, GERD, IBS.
-Meds: Zoloft 150mg. Xanax 4mg. Prescription pain meds/anti inflammatories.
-Multiple surgeries- I bear the scars of my poor physical health.
-Age:29. AP first DX @ 10. Fibro etc DX @14.
 
 


THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 9/19/2009 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
maz, each summer i get the flu. nothing in winter, not good in the heat either. jamie

Aurora60
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   Posted 9/20/2009 7:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Jeanne M, I was interested reading your post. Many of us have S.A.D. I am just the opposite. I have the depression the worst in summer. I love the Autumn with the changing leaves but of course do not look forward to the cold Midwest winters but I do manage. I pretty much nest in the winter and read a lot and do projects. You said there was only 1 psychiatrist in your area but I am wondering if there may be a couselor or therapist such as at a family service or clinic in your area. If there is they usually have a sliding fee schedule.  Can your PCP give you samples of Cymbalta?  Sometimes they are nice enough to do that for you and if it helps you more its worth a try. Please don't feel you don't have enough to say to post on here.  You sound like a very kind and caring person and all the members on this forum would be glad to hear from you. You don't have to write a lot, just if you are having a bad day it helps to write about it. There is always someone here to answer you.You are an important member and all here will help you through the hard times . Try to do the best you can at work, I know it is hard to smile when you feel low inside. I noticed in another of your threads that you mentioned your husband knows about how you feel. Can you get him to read some of the responses people have given you?  Maybe if he knows he may better understand what you are going through. His support would help you and I think it would help him too if he can offer the support you need at home.  I know others who use a lite box and it does seem to help.  Please keep posting and let us help you with ideas and of course the support you need.
 
Aurora

Post Edited (Aurora60) : 9/20/2009 8:24:07 AM (GMT-6)


ashhealed
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   Posted 9/22/2009 6:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Actually i feel depressed when it rains!In India it rains like hell and I ve noticed dat apart from physiological stress da body also assosciates each season wid da gud/bad memories...for eg.I dnt like winters much until last year I had dis huge crush and hence I am ready for cold season while the rainy season coincides wid da academic year and responsibilities wid getting wet and flu season..Plus I ve tried dis warm water therapy of drinking warm water during cold seasons...boil water and keep it thermally intact and drink it da whole day..it brings dat warm and joyous feeling while hydrating da body! smurf

JeannieM
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   Posted 9/25/2009 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Aurora! One of the reasons I'm kind of afraid to post anything is because I got burned bit time on another depression board where I vented one time and was basically told I do not have depression, suck it up and that's life. And how dare I post trivial vents when so many people there were going through so much more horrible stuff then I was. Kinda ruins ya!
 
All the counselers that I called do not offer sliding scale and wanted to see me 2-3 times a week. At 40.00 a pop I can't afford that so I've been just using my PCP. Honestly I feel like talking won't even help me. I like to say that I've been depressed since the day I was born. Was considered shy, backwards, not many friends, kept to myself when growing up. Looking back, I'd like to say it was actually the depression.
 
My doctor wasn't willing to keep giving me free samples of the cymbalta for however long it would take until my insurance decided to cover it so I went back to the celexa and ativan for anxiety.

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   Posted 9/25/2009 4:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jeannie,
 
From what you wrote in your post, you will have insurance kicking in?  That is cool.  Hopefully the wait wont be too long.  In the meantime take what the doctor prescribes until you can get the cymbalta again.
 
Here are a couple of free sites that might help you since you can't get counseling...
 
 
I hope that you will find these to be helpful.  Since you can't get into counseling, maybe these will be useful to you.
 
It sounds like you had a difficult childhood.  You can get beyond that.  There are a lot of good books out there that can be of some help to you.  One is called Healing The Child Within by Charles L. Whitfield, M.D.
 
I hope this was somewhat helpful.
 
Best wishes
 
Hugs, Karen
 
 
 
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JeannieM
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   Posted 9/26/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
getting by I do have insurance, always have. My problem is that cymbalta is a tier 3 drug on my prescription plan so it's not usually covered. My pcp did send them a letter with copies of my records stating all the different ad's I've been on over the years and none of them really worked, as the insurance requested and they still denied covering the cymbalta for me. Actuallu kinda glad they did as my copay on a tier 3 drug would be 75.00  a month ajd there in no way we could afford that. I get the celexa for 4.00 a month from walmart. So unless or until cymbalta ever goes generic or they decide it's no longer a tier 3 drug I won't be taking it.

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   Posted 9/26/2009 6:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I understand. It is difficult when that happens. Doestn't your insurance cover your counseling? That is a bummer if it doesn't.

I hope that you get to feeling better. Try the vitamin D3 for the SAD.

Hugs, Karen
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Selket
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   Posted 9/28/2009 8:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jenny\y-
 
You are probably experiencing Seasonal Affective Disorder or SADS.  I can tell like clockwork when it is coming on when the days start becoming shorter.  It starts mid-September for me and ends around Mid April.  We don't get enough Sun which helps with depression.
 
My psychiatrist prescribed a special light lamp for me years ago to help me get through the seasons.
 
 

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   Posted 9/28/2009 8:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Selket,

I had a light box too and it really did help. I would sit in front of it every morning while I drank my coffee. Usually about 20-30 minutes. I also take D3 which helps a lot.

I would like to welcome you to healingwell. And to the depression forum. You will find a lot of wonderful members here. Very supportive and compassionate. Feel free to post anywhere and feel free to start your own thread if you feel like it.

Hugs, Karen
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