RHODIOLA ROSEA!!! Very interesting

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   Posted 5/23/2010 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Ohh everyone, I was just hit by this thought like a lightning bolt. I have done many many hours or research on the plant group called "adaptogens". Adaptogens contain such herbs and plants like gensing and ginkgo biloba to name the most known couple. A plant MUST have these next three properties to be considered an adaptogen : (1) An adaptogen is nontoxic to the recipient. (2) An adaptogen produces a nonspecific response in the body—an increase in the power of resistance against multiple stressors including physical, chemical, or biological agents. (3) An adaptogen has a normalizing influence on physiology, irrespective of the direction of change from physiological norms caused by the stressor.

Of all the different plants contained within the adaptogen group one sticks out head and shoulders above the rest. The plant is called Rhodiola Rosea, or "Golden Root". Rhodiola has been tested and experimented with for over 30 years in the former Soviet Union's science branch and among private sources. It was originally found for its uses in alleviating altitude sickness in the Russian soldiers and also for cold weather resistance. Since its modern discovery it has been snowballing as to what it can help. It is, basically, a supplement that will help you body return to homeostasis (or the normal) and give resistance to that being changed for the worse. That means if you are depressed from an imbalance of chemicals, this will bring all you body systems back towards where they SHOULD be. It also acts as a mild stimulant, but only because your body is suddenly running the way it should, not forced in any way. It has been shown to have anti-cancer properties, works as an antidepressant for over 75% of test subjects(double blind placebos were done), regulates metabolism and therefore your level of energy, it gives a general feeling of well being, and it can also help during periods of withdrawl because of its normalizing effects. Now, by no means take my word for it. The best thing you could do in order to show yourself is to look it up. I have read on forums hundreds and hundreds of posts, some from the taker of the Rhodiola and some from parents who got it for their children. The posts range from the fact that nothing else helped them feel as good (depression) or have more energy(fatigue reduction). Parents would post that their child has ADD or AD/HD and had tried every drug available, and were left with no answers. Finally someone had referred them to Rhodiola and it did wonders, helped with concentration, helped with energy, helped them to fell well and happy. It acts as an immense immune booster, it helps memory, it promotes neurological activity and the optimization of serotinin and dopamine levels....all with the "side effects" of feeling good.

All I could say beyond that (to keep this from being a huge post) is to look it up and make your own decision. I have done a great deal of research myself, and scientists have been doing solid scientific research in other countries for at least 40 years now. There is immense potential in the plant, but for the most part it is kept from the main stream because it would be able to replace so many of their revenue drawing pharmaceuticals. I base this not only from research, but from personal experience. I took Rhodiola for 2 months, and I can tell you, as well as all my friends that I shared it with, that you most definitely feel better, have more endurance, and feel more focused. Sadly though, I am very broke at the moment (hernia surgury, chiro and doc bills+no insurance) and not able to get another bottle of it (though I will soon), even though it is so cheap. You can get a bottle that lasts about a month or more for around 20 dollars. There are active ingredients in the Rhodiola Rosea, these ingredients must be of a certain standardized level, if you dont know the levels then you might not be getting effectivce Rhodiola (the standardized product is grown in Russia). After looking up different brands, calling their manufacturers, and delving as deeply into it as I can, I have found a decently priced and definitely standardized source. It is called "Rosavin" and "Rosavin Plus", somewhere in the region of 20ish bucks. I'm sure a google would find you a place to get them, but trust me, I am not part of the company hehe, and I am not spending all this time typing this post because its entertaining. I dearly hope that this can help any of you who would look it up and know yourselves(don't take my word for it). It can help with depression, fatigue, and for relief of many symptoms associated with chronic conditions (such as lymes, fibro, obviously depression, and more). To cut this short (because I could type pages on it) I'll just say that I hope the best for you all, that Jesus Christ may lead you to what it is that will help you, and that my prayers are with you all.


Christian

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   Posted 5/24/2010 2:45 AM (GMT -7)   
thx 4 that. jamie.
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   Posted 5/24/2010 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
; ) It is quite interesting, once I started looking it up, all the different studies done, I just wanted to find out what else it could do. Hehe it is pretty amazing stuff.


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   Posted 5/26/2010 3:11 AM (GMT -7)   
I was wondering if anyone had taken the few moments to look it up yet as to convince ones self of the truth. If anyone has done research themselves I'd definitely love to hear your story and take on the situation, also anyone who has ever taken the herb and how it worked out. It has huuuge potential to help so many people, I just hope that some give it a chance and at least look into it. Thanks again


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   Posted 5/26/2010 4:11 AM (GMT -7)   
i have talked with my doc about it. we are looking into it. purely on medical grounds. this is because i have some complex medical issues. will get back 2 you christian when i know more. cheers, jamie.
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   Posted 5/26/2010 5:58 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a friend that takes this and says it works well.

I have never tried it, but take so many meds right now. I use to be into herbs but they just aren't strong enough to help my depression. Though I do take a lot of supplements too.

Best wishes to you my friend. I hope that it works well for you.

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   Posted 5/26/2010 2:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Jamie, I really hope that turns out well for you and your doctor is open to holistic methods. I will pray for the outcome and definitely be waiting to hear :-) .

Hey there again Karen :). I have also found that some herbs are definitely not potent enough to have a noticeable effect, but the Rhodiola was so oddly...apparent in its positive effects, much different then most. Also another angle to view its possible applications for yourself is the relief of the many side effects FROM the medications being taken. I don't know of any pharmaceutical that does not have a long list of side effects of some kind or severity, so it would have a very good chance at curbing them. One of its basic functions is to return the body systems to homeostasis, healthy norm, and if a needed drug is causing some undesired side effects then the rosea may be able to calm them. It was just a random idea I had that may be able to help, hehe thanks for responding and please keep the replys coming about personal information/experiences with this wonderful plant.


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   Posted 5/26/2010 7:29 PM (GMT -7)   
cheers christian, alike karen, waiting for info pertaining to the efficacy of potency on my various conditions. since i am on some full on meds i need to know that is herb will be congruent with the meds i take. as is my doc. i have tried a wholistic approach before, albeit the efficacy of potency was not congruent with my situation. will advise, thx, jamie.
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   Posted 5/27/2010 4:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I hope your doctor is able to see the truth of it, and not just downplay its effectiveness to propagate the use of pharmaceuticals. I would suggest looking up some information yourself just to have something factual to compare to what your doctor comes up with. I have personally seen many doctors speak against such plants because they are effective, cheap, and not created by the companies that pay them for distributing the meds. I have taken Rhodiola myself, and the effects are amazing to say the least. There is no negative interaction with any known medication, there is no negative side effect, and it just benefits you and makes one a healthier person. I would definitely do a bit of research myself so that when you are speaking about it with your doc you have some real information to bring into the situation, to go along with what they have found or to question a possible advisement against it. Every drug company known to man is deathly afraid of any plant that can cure any of their so called "diseases", termed by the FDA (federal department of ******s), because it would reduce the revenue they bring in each fiscal period with their chemical concotions. I hope that you do indeed have a truly caring doctor that has your true well being in mind, not just pushing their money making drugs. I wish you luck and hope that it turns out well.


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   Posted 5/31/2010 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone, was just checking in again on the rosea thread. Has your doctor gotten back to you on the information about it yet Jaimiee? I'd say that if anyone wants to test if their doctor is trustworthy or not, just do some of your own research first so you know its true, and if when you ask them about it they give a negative report, you don't know for sure but id say that there is a pretty overwhelming chance that they are just pushing pharmaceuticals.

And for shuvvykins, I was also interested in what you had determined about this adaptogen (hehe and looking up one is like a pandora's box of finding other good adaptogens). The uses for it literally seem endless to me. The possible applications and areas that it could benefit span such a wide spectrum, and I even began my research in an attempt to disprove its purported value. I hope everyone has been doing well and I look forward to more posts about personal experiences with or personal research on Rhodiola. Happy information hunting :-)


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   Posted 6/1/2010 3:44 AM (GMT -7)   
hey christian, my qwack is straight up. he is very up with new concepts. his wife is a diabetes professor and consultant, thus i learn heaps from my qwack. also we are good mates. at this point he is on holidays, yes i am looking into it, sadly i am busier than a bee on a hunger strike!!! will advise. thx. appreciate your input. cheers, have a good one!! jamie.
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   Posted 6/3/2010 3:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I am glad to hear that your doctor is that trustworthy, sometimes that is a hard thing to come by. I was lucky enough to find a very understanding and well informed doctor in my first visit , lol so it surly does happen :). Good luck with all that you are busy with also, I have found sometimes being that busy is a wonderful form of medication in and of itself. Just keep me posted when you have time on what he thinks, hehe once he is back from holiday.


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   Posted 6/3/2010 5:14 AM (GMT -7)   
will do. next couple of weeks. will arrange an appt soon. yes busy is okay, prioritising is the hard bit!!!! as is time, energy, patience and co-ordinating the whole lot. keep well, cheers, jamie.
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   Posted 6/3/2010 6:14 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah I hear you there jaimee, those things you mentioned are what I was having the hardest time with I think, part of the ADD, but I hope it works out well for you.

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   Posted 6/3/2010 11:13 PM (GMT -7)   
and you too!! the support here is wonderful; from you and all the HW buddies, cheers, jamie.
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   Posted 6/23/2010 7:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey all, just mainly bumping the thread to let more people be able to read it. I was also wondering how things were going with your doc jamiee? Good luck and I hope you find out that it does help.


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   Posted 6/28/2010 6:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Just dropping another bump on the rosea thread, I want to spread the word as much as possible.

I think I might be headin out for a while though...maybe I should work on getting the planks out of my own eye before I work on the splinter in my brother's eye, especially being that I am not a counselor. Feel free though to contact me via email anyone, I definitely don't mind at all. I hope the best for everyone and God's Blessings.

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   Posted 6/28/2010 11:41 PM (GMT -7)   
christian, got an appt for the 12th of july. it is real hard to get him. everyone sees him, thus the wait is long, even with an appt!!! usually 2 plus hrs wait with an appt!! although he is worth it!! a great bloke and humble qwacl as well. thought i'd keep you updated. sorry have not done much research, i am very depressed and overwhelmed at the moment. thx, jamie.

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   Posted 6/29/2010 1:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah I hear you about the depression...I'm going down with the ship I think. I might not be around for a while, I've just been feeling more and more like maybe I should have stayed safely behind my walls...that maybe I can still get back on the protected side. I wonder how much I can really help others if I can't even help myself. I don't know...

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   Posted 6/29/2010 1:53 AM (GMT -7)   
you are still reaching out. and helping. you have much to offer. one day at a time christian. keep posting, keep reaching out. jamie.
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   Posted 7/21/2010 1:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey there jaimiee :) I found my way back finally, lol was a bit of a rough road but I managed it. How are things going for you? I wanted ask you that and find out what your doc got back to you about the Rosea, was also bumping this thread for Mania_Saae. Hope to hear from you soon


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   Posted 7/22/2010 1:59 AM (GMT -7)   
sotty thumbs down to using it. other conflicting medical conditions that are not conducive to using it. was thoroughly looked into. hoping you are doin' better. me, been real busy. take care, jamie ps, very worn out!!!
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