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FarBeyondDriven
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   Posted 6/23/2010 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
I am so embarassed...I apologize for intruding on your forum, I don't intend to come back

Post Edited (FarBeyondDriven) : 6/25/2010 7:11:25 PM (GMT-6)


-Misunderstood-
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   Posted 6/23/2010 11:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Farbeyonddriven, welcome to the forums. From reading this i can obviously tell you are unhappy with many things in your life, that the way you look at things is not working, that the way you dealt with things in the past did not work, and that now you don't know what to do or where to go. Well, coincidentally enough you actually mentioned the solution unknowingly in your post. That "stupid" prayer idea. It seems as if your relations and your life situation, being in the shape they are in might be due clear looking at. I hope that you can move past the unBiblical teachings of Pentecostals and see that basically all "organized" religion these days is corrupted(because they are by legal definition 501C3 Corporations[a subsidiary of the federal gov] and no longer a Biblical church)...then you can begin to see that Christianity has nothing to do with erasing all want from yourself...that sounds more like the vadist yogis or buddhism to me. The Bible says not to want for that which is against God, not EVERYTHING. Also I can tell that you are interested in universal theory, so am I...and I am also a Christian. Don't fall into the trap that so many do in believing that science and The Bible are separate or different in any way. Science is the explanation of the systems that God put into motion... :) that is why the universe expands, that is why an atom's orbital function is the same as that of the solar system, and same for the galaxy, and then for our universe, and then the clusters of millions upon millions of universes. That is not proof of some poorly explained cop out called the "big bang", a random scattering that just congealed together to form these absolutely amazing, specific, specialized existences...that is CLEARLY evidence of pointed, purposeful, intelligent, cohesive, thought out crafting. I think that the answers you are seeking are waiting for you in the King James Bible, not a person you met, or in the pope, or in some random denomination, or some wild "christian" sect, or even in researching the far reaches of the universe(as interesting as it may be hehe). When you find yourself with nothing and no other answers, know that He is there waiting for you, and He always has been.


Christian

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   Posted 6/23/2010 12:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Farbeyonddriven,

It sure does sound like you are looking for some answers. The answers lie within you. Are you going to start living or are you going to continue to be this person's scapegoat? It sounds like she has you right where she wants you and that is down. You have a right to be happy too. You have a right to get new clothes, some shoes that don't hurt your feet and some color in your hair. But you have to want this and obtain it. Get a part time job. Get yourself some extra money.

You have to want it bad enough to do it, it isn't going to just fall into your lap. Unless you are that fortunate to have that happen. Which most of us aren't. Do for you.

Hugs, Karen
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getting by
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   Posted 6/23/2010 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
If you can't put away a little bit of money at a time for yourself, maybe you should ask your parents for some help. Or somebody that you can pay back later. It just seems unfortunate that you can't afford to do something nice for yourself. But I guess in times like these we have to work with what we got. I have shopped at second hand stores when I didn't have much money. Maybe you could at least find a pair of shoes there. I am sorry that you don't have what you would like to have. I guess these are tough times and we have to accept that. I don't know what else to say. Try not to let it get to you that your friend has more than you. This will only make you envious. You don't want that.

I hope that you can find wealth in happiness.

Hugs, Karen
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neverbetter
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   Posted 6/23/2010 5:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello,
 
I'm so sorry that you are so unhappy with your situation.  It becomes obvious that you are very much alone in this world- or your thought processes are just telling you that.  But whatever the case, no one deserves to feel like that. 
 
I understand your want to make your life better physically.  We all get that way- it's in our nature.  And your friend was very wrong to do what she did to you, and, from the looks of it, is still doing to you.  I don't want to tell you to take control, or just remain passive, because that's completely your decision.  But I do know that in the end, whether it be in this world or the next, you will be rewarded for your service to her, if you learn to accept what she's done to you, but still take your independence when you're ready. 
 
Right now it may look like you'll never be ready to break free of her, but I can promise you that one day you're going to be too fed up to care about her feelings, and end up moving on angrily, with a broken friendship.  Perhaps the best way to avoid severing your friendship would be to approach her directly, without judging, and simply tell her how you feel.  If you act soon, this won't need to spiral out of control. 
 
Your money problems can also be solved calmly.  First, don't take all of the bills on your shoulders.  Your friend will definitely understand.  As for college, their are tons of government loans that you can apply for and recieve if you are underfunded and independent from your parents.  Look into it, see what you can get (free, so you don't have to pay them back), and then see how much you would have to take out from the bank and eventually pay back.  It'll take time, but it's worth it! I promise!
 
Again, I'm so sorry that you feel so trapped.  I wish I could help you more! Prayers to you.

THE HAPPY TURTLE
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   Posted 6/24/2010 2:11 AM (GMT -7)   
there are wants, okay and good, but we all have needs. jamie.
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-Misunderstood-
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   Posted 6/25/2010 4:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey again, I read the recent posts and have a few ideas in mind. Firstly I'd have to say that even though you were brought up in that situation, YOU have the choice to stop its continuing influence on your life. Fully realize that it IS ok to want some things for yourself and stop beating yourself up over it, you said yourself that you know that you were initially taught wrongly. And also as you had said, it is somewhat noticeable that you have become somewhat detached from reality, but that also is a temporary predicament.

Psalm 23 says, "The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever." Now no part of that states anything to make one think that God will hand you everything and you basically have to do nothing to receive it. He is simply saying that He will be there to strengthen you in times of trouble, that even a real situation of danger we should not be truly fearful for He is with us (either as physical protection of spiritual salvation), and that you will receive that gift of salvation in the house of the Lord no matter what your enemies plot. There is actually a perfectly suited analogy concerning a man who's cart went off the road and crashed into a ditch, leaving him trapped beneath the cart. When a first man passed he called out to the driver, "Do you need some help down there". In response, being a Christian and also under the same misunderstanding, he replied that he needed no help and that God would come to help him out of the ditch soon. Well that exact situation repeated 3 times, 3 people asked him if he needed help. Well, the man ended up dieing in the ditch and when he reached heaven he asked why He didn't try to pull him from the ditch. God responds, "I did try, three times actually, you just didn't take the chances". This should, I hope, address both the misunderstanding with Psalm 23 and how to cope with hardships in your life. Putting your faith in God does help but it by no means excludes you from hardship or the necessity of action.

Also science and Christianity most certainly do need to be seen in more balance by most people because they are one in the same. Steven Hawking and many other very renown thinkers support a very interesting theory. These scientist state that this world, our environment, the earth itself, the amount of cosmic radiation that bombards the earth and the amount filtered by the outer atmosphere, even the composition of the air we breath to name only a very few...ALL of it has to be EXACTLY as it is now or all life would cease to exist. Now, of all the facts of physics and nature that clearly do point toward intelligent, purposeful creation....that has got to be one of the most obvious. That idea, the theory, is even coming from people who at some points would argue on the side of the fictional story of evolution (which I might add that many scientists are now coming closer to the realization that the universe is not random and evolved out of happenstance). So that is a little tiny bit of the science that you might not readily come across, and there is sooo much more.

What you have dealt with is not easy by a mile...and we as individuals cannot choose what happens or is forced upon us, but we CAN control how we respond and continue after the fact. There is only one way to get past this and it is not found in finding a reason why every advise is wrong. If you really really want to find the answers then really look, think, and then just focus on what needs done to move on...move forward...forget about what was and aim at what can and will be. I hope that I have helped a little and I hope you feel better FarbeyondDriven.


Christian

Post Edited (-Misunderstood-) : 6/25/2010 5:26:27 AM (GMT-6)

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