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nduser
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   Posted 7/17/2010 7:01 AM (GMT -7)   
our 18 year old son was recently admitted to the hospital for a suicide attempt. he didn't display any typical symptoms but we have a history of depression in the family. the psych doctor prescribed him lithium, seroquel, and remeron then took him off the remeron and put him on luvox because she thinks he displays some ocd symptoms too. yesterday she put him on lamictal which i understand is an anticonvulsant. she thinks he's bipolar even though he doesn't exhibit the mania.

from what i've read he may be bipolar 2 because of his very low mania but i also read lamictal is for bipolar 1. anyway, he's always been a very calm and relaxed person so was curious when i noticed there's also an order for thorazine prn.

the doctor has not been communicating with us about his changes in meds. i feel left out of the loop as to what course of treatment she is taking with him. even though he is 18 - if he is in crisis right now he can't completely communicate the information she told him about his medicines and treatment if she is even explaining it to him. i would like to think she is probably trying to get him stable but want to know what is going on. also there is psychotherapy going on. the nurses said she's off this weekend and wouldn't put in a call to her.

shouldn't the doctor be communicating with us? what are our rights as his parents?
his meds are

1200mg lithium (600mg AM / 600mg PM)
Seoquel 100 mg PM
Luvox 50mg (2x a day)
Lamictal 25mg (PM)
Thorazine 50mg (PRN)

does this sound right?

please help. i am very anxious.

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   Posted 7/17/2010 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi nduser1,
 
Being he is 18, that could mean that the doctor isn't going to correspond with you because he is an adult.  I would talk to the doctor about this and find out. 
 
I thank God that they are working with your son.  He is probably in good hands right now.  But I would contact the doctor, maybe there is a waiver he can sign that would give you access to what is going on.  I am not sure. 
 
Please keep posting and let us know what is going on.
 
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   Posted 7/17/2010 8:02 AM (GMT -7)   
hi nduser

i agree , talk to the doctor and ask if thats the reason (18) u r worried about yr son but please know he is in the best hands and will come through this , he will need yr support so please make sure you look after yourself as well, then u will be able to be strong , let us know how he is getting on but also how you are doing and feeling about the situation .

helen xx

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   Posted 7/17/2010 9:09 AM (GMT -7)   
There are waivers and forms your son should be able to sign so that the doctors can keep you informed as well about his treatment. They should be keeping you in the loop anyways seeing that you are his parents, but as a legal adult, they are only required to talk to him. I would just ask for the waivers/forms they make you sign releasing his medical information and treatment information to you. Surely someone there is considerate enough to find those for you.

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   Posted 7/17/2010 2:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, in order for you to be able to communicate with your son's dr. your son has to be willing to sign the release form. Without his permission the dr. will not communicate with you as he is an adult. I know what this is like as I had to beg and plead with my son that it was for his own good that I be able to speak with his dr. So I hope your son will cooperate and sign the paper. And to be safe make sure you make the dates you can communicate with the dr. long enough. There should be a place on the release where you can specify how long of a period you want to be in contact, say a year or even more if possible.
 
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   Posted 7/17/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Assuming you're in the US, you could file an emergency petition with the court to ask for temporary guardianship of your son. You can contact your local Bar Association to ask for a recommendation of a couple lawyers in your area who practice that area of law. If the court grants you guardianship, the doctors have to communicate with you & you would have the right to make medical decisions on behalf of your son.

Realize, though, that such a move might result in your son being angry with you for a very, very long time to come. These choices are very hard to make.

The others are right that he could sign a waiver allowing his psych to talk to you. Generally those conversations are still rather limited, but at least it would be something. Your son has the right to revoke that permission at any time by writing a short letter to the psych asking him not to talk with you any more. Or if the psych thinks it would be detrimental to your son's treatment, even if your son has given permission the psych doesn't have to share things with you.

All of those drugs are sometimes prescribed to people with depression or bipolar disorder. It's hard to say whether they're the best treatment for your son. At 18, he might benefit from seeing a pediatric psychiatrist who also works with young adults. Twenty-somethings and under tend to experience more side effects from medications & some doctors are more aware of what all those side effects are than others.

As far as thinking he doesn't fit the symptoms of depression/bipolar, it does seem like something is going on. You describe him as calm & relaxed, but he did try to kill himself. I've been in that situation myself. I've had friends in that situation. I've advocated for suicidal people & have worked in a crisis call center. Maybe your son is the exception, but I've yet to talk to someone who attempted suicide who wasn't thinking about it for months prior. And surviving, even though ultimately that is the ideal outcome, is very stressful. Some people really regret trying. Some really regret failing. But the emotions tend to be overwhelming.

Many people can feel a lot of energy after a suicide attempt. Sometimes it's a positive rush but other times it's just nervous energy. This has a lot to do with brain chemistry & what chemicals are released when the body thinks it's dying and almost nothing to do with the person's personality. So it's possible that the doctors are just trying to get his rushing thoughts to slow down to a normal pace & will take him off it later. But it's also possible that he is like I was and has these almost obsessive thoughts about killing himself that he wants to stop but can't make go away. I was on (and still am on) an anti-convulsant (Lyrica) and that really helped more than anything with getting the thoughts under control. I was so tired from it all the time, but now I'm on much less & the thoughts are better [until the last 2 days when I've been struggling, but probably partly that's b/c my hormones are totally out of whack].

I don't know if you were really asking this, but I can share what was helpful for me when I was having a rough time. Mostly it helped to have my parents visit me whenever my friends couldn't come so I always had a visitor at visiting hour. It helped when they stopped telling me how hard the whole thing was on them. It helped when they talked to me like normal, rather than treating me like some feverish five-year old who needed to hear about how everything in the entire world was just wonderful. It helped when they said what they thought to me, rather than to other people (people ALWAYS talk & hearing that your dad thinks you just need to pick yourself up by your bootstraps from your uncle in Georgia is much worse than hearing that same painful statement directly from your dad). It helped more than anything when they told me they thought I was smart enough to plan my recovery, but that if I could think of anything they could do to let them know & they'd try to help [the social worker told them not to offer any help, but I'm glad they did; I tried not to take advantage of that offer too much but sometimes I needed them].

I don't know. I hope something I wrote helps. If not, I'd say it might be helpful to find a counselor for yourself. My mom said it was good to be able to talk about how much me trying to end my life hurt her & made her feel like she did something wrong to a counselor. So maybe it could help you. In any case, I wish you well & wish your son complete healing.

peace,
frances

nduser
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   Posted 7/18/2010 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for all of your support. after his attempt my son told us he had been thinking about it for some time. btw, his personality from when he was a young boy has always remained very even tempered and still is today. also he has no issues about the doctor sharing his medical info with us. i asked the nurse today if there was a waiver or release form for him to sign and she said he could just write a note which he willingly did. we have a close, loving family and we do visit him at all visiting hours. he has had a few friends and cousins come by too and no one is telling him how hard it is on them and that the world is a wonderful place.

frances you are right. he had been thinking about it for a couple of months and still there were no signs of despair, despondency or typical depression. he came home from college got a summer job, worked hard to keep himself busy, hung out with a few friends, played video games and smoked some pot. we don't think the pot is a good idea especially with depression but he thinks it makes the day go better. it's way of self-medicating when it's used too often or for the wrong reasons - but not sure cares.

i would like to believe the medicine he is being given is designed to get his thoughts under control because at this point it appears his biology and physiology are not normal. he said he has strong convictions that people should be able to make decisions about their own life and that he's not likely to change that belief. i think this is the depression talking but don't know for sure and it scares me to no end. he said he's always felt a lack of motivation to do anything although he has many talents. his belief about the world is it's a pretty bad place in which to live and doesn't believe that he should just follow the status quo of working to get money to buy things to find happiness which he doesn't believe exists either. he is an atheist and very smart but an underachiever as well.

yesterday, he was a little anxious in the early afternoon (which is atypical for him) and i'm assuming it's the meds. later on he seemed a little more in his skin but still i am quite anxious myself so my own doctor prescribed celexa for me to take just last week. i would think his psych doctor would at least want to speak with us to get a family history. my son is 18 but he is still just a boy.

frances your paragraph about the obsessive thoughts sounds a lot like what my son might be going through. thank you for sharing and i hope you continue on the road to recovery.

thanks for being there.

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   Posted 7/18/2010 7:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi there,
 
I suffer with obsessive thinking and they put me on abilify and it really helps.  Somethnig like that may be good for him too.  I sure do hope that things get better for all of you.  I am glad that he is okay with you getting information from the doctor.  Things will get better for you all the way around.
 
Keep posting, this is a wonderful forum.
 
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nduser
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   Posted 7/20/2010 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
today we had a meeting with his psychiatrist, a social worker my son, myself and my wife. they agreed to take him off one to one supervision because he wont hurt himself in the hospital. because it's a medical hospital, he doesn't receive psychotherapy but our conversation today was sort of like a therapy session. he still doesn't want to recover and doesn't understand why everyone makes a big deal out of death. on one hand though it sounded as if he had hope as long as he can still smoke pot. naturally everyone thinks this is a bad idea except him. it's not helping him in anyway although he says it makes the day better. i think he's psychologically addicted to it because he doesn't just want to use it recreationally and is basically self-medicating. what he doesn't understand is that it doesn't help his depression but then again he says he doesn't want help. it's terribly sad and is tearing me up inside because he is so stubborn in his convictions. he doesn't really seem to hear or agree with what we are saying.

he wouldn't agree to go to a mica treatment when he is ready but has agreed to see a psychiatrist and therapist and i asked him to sign a contract that if he feels desperate that he might hurt himself that he would tell us. we didn't get to that stage yet because they're still regulating his meds. he still doesn't feel right in his skin and is a bit anxious. the psych doc and social worker said that it wouldn't be from the meds but maybe from the pot withdrawal. meanwhile when he was in last week before we brought him back he didn't exhibit the same symptoms and he has some tremors from the lithium which the doc said is normal.

eventually he said he wouldn't smoke for a while when he gets out but that it would be hard because so many people do and he's not about to just find a new group of friends when that's what the majority of college kids do in their free time. anyway, he knows he's loved and deeply cared about by his family and friends but not sure that makes a difference to him.

i know it probably wasn't the best thing to say but i had to tell him that i would be devastated if anything ever happened to him and it would change my life forever. then i told him that i know depression is real and we're all here to support him.

i didn't say this but it's not like i can control how i feel right now but my wife and kids are my life and the way i feel right now i don't see myself ever experiencing joy again as long as he is in his current state of mind.

thanks for you post and your words of support siobhan. i hope that it's just a matter of time, love, patience and understanding that will help him to heal. i hate to think of anything else.

peace to all

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   Posted 7/20/2010 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Nduser,
 
Have faith that your son's thinking will come around.  As they work with him, it will be gradual.  But you will see some things change. 
 
As for the smoking, as long as he is around his friends he is going to be tempted to, but I would look at it this way, at least he isn't drinking.  That is far worse.  I am not going to say anything further as we are not to discuss it on the forum.  It is against the rules. 
 
Your son is getting help now, that is such a good thing.  Have faith that he is going to get better and want to continue living.  Keep your chin up, he will come around.  He has asked for help in his way, and he is receiving it now.  You will see improvement.  Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
 
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nduser
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   Posted 7/21/2010 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the words of encouragement karen.

nduser
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   Posted 7/21/2010 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
today he said they were considering ect. it's only been two weeks since he's been on the meds. any thoughts about this? success stories, side effects etc.

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   Posted 7/21/2010 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
We have had members that have had success with ect.  Jamie is one.  Hopefully he will see this post.  You can start a new one about ect if you want to, you may get more responses that way.
 
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ctp-jimmyd
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   Posted 7/22/2010 2:37 AM (GMT -7)   
nduser,

this would be my first post advising someone, so I wouldn't expect it to be great.

Like Siobhan, I'm also a teen (16) that has put up with the suffering alone instead of opening up to people around me, and it has cause alot of havoc.
I, although not being admitted into hospital for it, had attempted         because of alot of time spent alone with a feeling that there is no-one out there that will listen to me and that I can freely talk to without being judged. It's a hard feeling to explain, and you can't completely understand how it feels until you have gone through it in a personal experience. Unlike her, however, the reasoning for depression, I caused mine (I Believe) internally.
 
I was spending way too much time holding myself down with thoughts that I'll just weigh people down, so I started to push most of my closest friends away, even if that involved hurting them, to make them realise I wasn't worth any of their time. After maybe two weeks, I only had about three people that still didn't hate me, and I became really lonely, so I made a person, a person out my thoughts and wishes; the person I wished I was, both in Image and in Personality; and called him Jesse. He was tall, slim, and had an awesome fashion sence (well, I thought so). I could tell him anything, and he'd help me through anything I needed help with.

Anyway, the point I'm getting at is that even if he keeps himself active with his friends, or with something he enjoys doing, there's always times that thoughts and memories will always catch up with him, and yes, they will take their toll, one way or another. One thing that alot of Parents can't see, no matter how close the families are, is when a child is going through something that could lead to a case similar to your son. Make sure he knows that no matter what time of day or night, that there's always someone there that can help him and listen to him. I also suggest maybe finding something creative he is good at to persue, this can help express feelings, I write songs and poems, for example.

Hope that this helps,
All the best,
J, x
 
I had to edit a word out of your post, we are not to discuss suicide.  Thanks for understanding my friend.
Karen

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nduser
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   Posted 7/22/2010 5:59 AM (GMT -7)   
j, thanks for sharing. my son has a lot of talents but says he doesn't enjoy them. singing, writing music and playing a lot of instruments to name a few and he has even won awards for some of them. he is also a pretty good writer but i don't think he enjoys that either. in the hospital he does have a journal and i think he may be using it a little. i used to write a lot and found it very cathartic. he is very intelligent but an underachiever and is stuck in his thinking. i'm glad you've found an outlet. it's something we all need for sure.

i'll post again later after i speak with him since today he is speaking with the head of the psych unit there to discuss the option of ect. last night when i was visiting he said he felt better even though they had to put him on congentin because of the involuntary muscle contractions caused by the luvox (i think). he said he was going to take his college money and go to california. at first it sounded like a plan and i was hopeful that he is thinking about the future but then my wife reminded me that pot is legal there for some health issues and maybe in the near future it will be completely. i hope that is not what he is thinking though. peace.

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   Posted 7/22/2010 6:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I am trying so hard to respond by not breaking any rules, but yes it is becoming legal there so maybe that is the basis for his decision.  To be honest, he could be doing worse things.  As I mentioned before, alcohol, harder drugs etc. 
 
Though I hate to see him waste his talents.  It sounds like he needs to grow up and get his priorities straight.  You may not be able to stop his actions.  Just pray for him to find the right direction to go in.  I am sorry that your son is doing what he is doing.  I hope that he realizes that he needs an education to further himself in life.
 
Best wishes to you.
 
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   Posted 7/22/2010 2:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Siobhan,
 
That was a wonderful post and a great suggestion.
 
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nduser
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   Posted 7/22/2010 4:16 PM (GMT -7)   
he goes to art therapy sometimes and music listening but other than that he isn't getting any "therapy." today he said he was feeling better and the cogentin has helped with the involuntary muscle movements caused by the luvox. don't know if the meds are working and he truly is feeling better as he has a good poker face. i'd like to believe the meds are kicking in since it's almost been two weeks. he state of mind seemed better and one of his visitors was the parent of a friend who said she was suicidal until she was treated with prozac. she was extremely candid and said that when she had those thoughts she would tell her self that she could always 'off' herself tomorrow thus prolonging her life.

i know he's had a good relationship with her over the years, so it must've come as a surprise to hear that. he also said the head of psych doesn't want to approve any ect at this time. i think that's a good idea too. he's having fun playing cards with his friends right now and he mentioned that he'd like to get into better shape. so that sounds promising but it's too soon to think he's not out of the woods because he had a couple of good days.

i would imagine that he still may get those suicidal thoughts at times but that he hopefully will be able to silence them through positive coping skills. can i ask those if it's normal to take a step forward and another two back or is slow and steady more the course or does it vary for each person?

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   Posted 7/22/2010 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I would say it varies from person to person.   But I can recall many times of taking one step forward and two steps back, as I imagine many people here have had this happen.  It is still going to be gradual.  And it takes four to six weeks for the meds to take full effect.   So if you are seeing any improvement at all, that is great.  Keep your chin up Dad, he will get through this.  I am glad that they are waiting on the ect because that means they have some hope for medications. 
 
Best wishes to you.
 
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   Posted 8/5/2010 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
my son was discharged last week. we went to the outpatient counseling center for an intake and he'll be assigned a therapist and psych doctor at the end of the month. he says he's okay but then again he's always said that. he appears to be okay but then again he always appeared that way. i hope that he is honest with us and will reach out instead of doing something drastic again.

just wanted to thank everyone on the board who responded with advice and support for this crisis we're going through. best wishes to all of you for your kind thoughts.

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   Posted 8/5/2010 10:56 AM (GMT -7)   
okay so now i think my post was premature. he was called back to work today and decided to go in. they asked him to do a double shift which he agreed to. when he told me that i thought it was too much for now. he went in for an hour and then came back and said he didn't feel right there. everyone was respectful of his absence he said but he didn't feel right. he came home and went to lay down. i know he's been feeling tired lately from the meds 100mgs or luvox and 600 mgs of lithium twice a day.

my wife said that he told her he was a little depressed after the intake. he didn't tell me that. he actually seemed pretty up after the intake but i was a little upset that he wouldn't open up about anything to me. so i've been trying to keep a comfortable distance so he doesn't feel like i'm prying or nagging.

he told my wife he'd talk to the psych or therapist about things but that's not until the end of the month. so i'm worried. i don't know if he feels he should be back in the hospital or not. i don't think going back to a medical hospital is going to be the answer anyway. as scary as it might be, i'm thinking that if he needs treatment again it should be in a 21 day facility where he can get daily therapy. i hate to think that that may come to pass but i just don't know what's gonna be. his friends are starting to head back to college this week and in the coming weeks and he's not going back to school this semester because he's taking a medical leave of absence. i'm sure that will arouse some feelings too.

my brother and sister-i-law came in for a few days and it was a good distraction for him. but now things are back to normal and he may be feeling disappointed in himself because he said in the hospital that he wanted to make changes like getting in shape and such. since he hasn't been doing that he may be feeling bad. i don't know because he doesn't open up. and he hasn't been smoking any weed either which i think is a good idea. he did have one day where he felt anxious and took a xanax. well, i'm just back here venting because i have no other place to go. thanks for the good thoughts.

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   Posted 8/5/2010 11:30 AM (GMT -7)   
This is going to take time and a lot of work.  Do you think he can get a leave of absence for work?  I do agree too that pulling a double shift would have been too much anyway.  I am sorry that he felt uncomfortable there.  But in time, I think he will be able to go back to work. 
 
There is going to be an adjustment process with the medicaions too.  Lithium, I believe, is a strong drug.  He may feel lathargic with it for awhile.  But I think it will level off as it starts to work.  I have never taken it though, but there are some members who have I do believe. 
 
Keep an eye on him, but not so much that it makes him feel uncomfortable.  But at first he may want to sleep more.  I think that this is normal, as long as he comes around within a week or so.  If longer, you could call the doctor and let him know.  It is hard adjusting to new medications, and he is young, and that makes it extra difficult I think. 
 
Keep posting and let us know what is going on.  Best wishes to you for a wonderful day.
 
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   Posted 8/7/2010 6:07 AM (GMT -7)   
so now it seems we are back to square one. apparently the meds aren't working as they should. he's discharged from the hospital but with the same self-defeating thoughts as before. thank goodness one of his friends was here at three in the morning who called me upstairs and said he was suicidal again. he's a calm as a clam which is his usual demeanor but feeling this world is full of so much pain and suffering and that all things are random. nothing matters and death shouldn't be such a big deal. she agreed to sleep by his side until be take him to the hospital this am. he agreed that he would just sleep. i guess we have to take him to the emergency room at the medical hospital and hope the can readmit him to psych.

his doctor wont be there since it's the weekend and he'll have to wait until she returns on monday and tell her what's going on assuming we make it that far. my thinking is that he'll need to go into a psych facility where he can get daily therapy and be closely watched for how his meds are working or not working. i think when he was in the hospital the second time the meds were working for a while and he really did seem optimistic but they took him off the serequel, lamactic and remeron because his liver levels were too high. not sure which of those may have caused it but now his levels are in normal range but his disorder is flaring up.

i don't know how much longer i can take this roller coaster. we had plans to visit disney in a week and now he wont be able to go and even if we still go the entire trip will be marred. my wife is going through her last chemotherapy so the trip was to be a celebration that's its over. she is so strong and i'm crumbling like a cookie. i don't know what i expect anyone on the boards to write. im sure i'll get the usual hang in there, you're doing a good job and two steps forward and one back, but i gotta tell you that it's eating me up. i know i can make it through but i don't know how to keep dealing with this. just as i start to feel good they fall apart again. and now this friend who he actually confided in is going back to college this weekend. i just wanna scream!

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   Posted 8/7/2010 6:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Relax and take this one step at a time.  It isn't the end of the world if you can't go to Disney.  I know that you wanted to celebrate with your wife, but this is more important right now.  So accept this and take it as it comes.  You and your wife can do something different I guess and still be happy.  Your son needs you both right now and that is so important at this point. 
 
Breathe, slowly.  In through the nose and out through the mouth.  Called smelling the roses and blowing out the candles. 
 
It might be time for you to think about some extra help for you.  Like counseling for example.  You could use the extra support right now.  Think about it.
 
I hope that things work out and that your son gets better soon.
 
Keep posting.
 
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   Posted 8/7/2010 7:01 AM (GMT -7)   
the disney trip was for the entire family and the extended family as well. he was looking forward to it and still is, but must realize he can't go now.
i had a good cry before and probably will again later.
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