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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/6/2010 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I often think that talking to people about depression is a bad thing because really i'm just being some emo working them selves up. How do you tell the difference from if you are working your self up or if you really are depressed?? Or if you are depressed cuz you are talking about It it drives me nutz.

Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/6/2010 8:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Cant any one answer this question? If people knew a bit about this topic I dont think it would be that hard. :C

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   Posted 8/7/2010 6:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I guess nobody responded to this post becasue that is a question best asked of your doctor. Depression is a beast. You feel down and out. Nothing appeals to you and all you want to do is sleep. If I were you, I would make a doctor's appointment and see what they say. We can't give that type of advice here because we don't really know what is going on in your head. Sorry about that. But the doctor is the best place to start.

I hope that this helped a little.

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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/7/2010 8:08 AM (GMT -7)   
All the doc says is medication. Its all any one says...NO one can really help me can they :c
Thanks for posting though its nice to know that some people will tell me why no one is postin lol

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   Posted 8/7/2010 8:14 AM (GMT -7)   
If we are suspected of having a chemical imbalance in our brains they always suggest medication.  I take it that you don't want to go on meds.  Have you talked to him about St Johnswort or 5hpt?  They are natural medications that one can take.  That is if you are interested.  Here is a site that might help you.  It is called moodgym.  It is free and is like counseling, I guess.  I have had many people say that it helped them, but I myself have never gone there.
 
 
This might help you and it might not, but it is something to try.  I think counseling would help you too.  Many of us are on meds and go to counseling, it has saved us.  But everybody is different and different things help different people.  I sure did say different a lot,  or type it. lol...  It is a cool word to type, almost all on one hand.  hahaha...
 
I hope that you feel better soon.  Keep posting as we all care about you.
 
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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/7/2010 8:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Many thanks i will try that website.
As i said before I hate counselors as well. They see so many people in a day i feel they dont even really give a crap and all they say as well is meds. I tryed pills once and they were not a good experience.

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   Posted 8/7/2010 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
There are also many good books out there.  One in particular is "Feeling Good", the new mood therapy.  By a doctor Burns.  You might want to get it.  It has been around for a long time but it is very helpful to people.  And there are many others too.
 
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   Posted 8/7/2010 10:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Totally agree with Karen on this one. If you're frustrated with "the system" as I like to call it--the meds, the doctors, the counselors and therapists...the online world with support websites and coping sites are probably your best bet. Your original question about knowing when your depressed and when your just hyped up...personally I can tell the difference by how long it lasts. Depression sticks with you if you don't do anything about it...getting worked up, for me anyways, goes away...it's a temporary kind of thing. And if it's not temporary, it's more like anxiety if it's a constant feeling of being worked up about something that's going on.

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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/9/2010 6:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm more lost then ever then because its not the fact that i get worked up im calm and collective. I just cant hold every thing that goes on and if I leave it in side me I blame my self for everything more and more. Till I decide I should just rather then having the world fall into my despair.

Post Edited By Moderator (getting by) : 8/9/2010 8:10:43 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 8/9/2010 7:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Please don't say that on the forum. It is against the rules. Don't even think that way. You are a prescious human being and there is a reason that you are in this world. You will find it one day.

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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/9/2010 11:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry about that never meant to break the rules ill try and be more careful.

I don't get how i'm precious. I just another Joe off the street breathing others air. Im more of an in convince then anything. I'm so young so i should have the whole world to admire. I should have so much to see and do. But there's nothing here. I work my ass off so i can pay rent and food so i can live and All i do is get criticized by my family and fired by my bosses. I failed grade one so i feel they pushed me through school and not im in high school not picking up on anything and getting ridiculed there. Even though i keep my self clean and I weigh 170.

Today leads on tomorrow so since everything i do is the wrong. things tomorrow starts off wrong. My family has done much harm to me but i forgive them ever time thinking it has to be on my end if I was only smarter I would never have gave bad directions. The taring part is when I fight my self saying it was not my fault but then...why my brother still able to live there. I dont expect you to understand because it would take years to write it all but my brother is more favored then me because he is the first child. My sister almost died so she is favored to. In my parents eyes i'm the drug user that gone to the wrong side. I used once and that was cuz im trapped between hell and the unknown. Could hell be better then the unknown? Is there a god? if there is a god why would he put me in such a place I despise him for that. Im sick of talking about it I want to i really do but some little bit good left in me is helling at me not to. im just so tired all i want is eternal sleep. I feel my hart bleeding so much i can almost taste it. i feel so week. I hate reality can any one please just tell me why to live? i know there must be some reason but i cant think of any. My mind is misted

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   Posted 8/9/2010 1:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Each and everyone of us is a special human being with feelings and opinions and many other things.  You are one of us.  Know that you are just as important in God's eyes as your brother and your sister and everybody. 
 
Life is full of struggles.  Just take it one day at a time, and you will start to get ahead and have things that you will want to do.  Did you graduate?  If not, how about getting your GED?  That would be something for you to think about.  Or even take some college courses until you decide what you would like to do with your life. 
 
You have a job, and a place to live.  You are accomplishing things.  It might not seem like a lot, but it is more than some do.  You should be proud of yourself for that.
 
These are hard times right now with the economy and all.  So it takes longer to get ahead, but if you can keep your head above water and pay your rent and buy food and pay bills, you are doing good.  Right now there are people with no homes.  Can't pay bills, no food and so on.  So you should be proud of what you have.  Like I say, it is more than some have at this time. 
 
Keep posting, it does good to write things down.  Think about some therapy to get yourself on track where you would like to be and also for support.  Therapy really helps us get out thoughts together.  Do you take any medications?  Have you seen a doctor lately?  Maybe medications would help you to feel better, though I would try the therapy first.  If you so desire. 
 
Here is a free site for counseling.  Just in case you can't get to therapy.
This might help you, or it might not.  But I have had a few members say that it really helped them.
 
Know that you are important to us.  We do understand, for we have all been there.  I hope that you feel better soon.
 
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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/9/2010 1:33 PM (GMT -7)   
wow ok great i idea get a job...lets see just got fired because my boss gave me unsafe work like three days ago. Ill just go and get a job just like that. As for school lets see I dont have a job so i cant enroll in school now can I. My parents told me when I was living in there house to drop school so i could pay them rent. My dad has over 100 gun and as i was moving out he got more. Ya life is so ****ing easy. As for med I said I tried them and guess what they made matters worse. Sorry to sound rude I know your trying help but I dont really see the help that you are trying give. Its like you are reading from a text book and not seeing the world for how it is. Good subsetions to people who dont try though :O

O side note to the school thing why in the hell would I go write a GED when All i have left is like two corses and I enrolled in high school for three going on to four years. You sound sound like my consulars

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   Posted 8/9/2010 2:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry I know you must not realize what your words mean. I look at things weirdly because you do not know my back story. You see my brother is the brains he got A+s and beat me up. Every little kid says the other one threw ice balls when it was hard pack snow but my brother he would throw litterly ice balls at me. He would gave me face washes steel my money. I would take the blame for anything he did. Now during grade one is when most of this happend so it feels like yesterday. Telling my story really dont get easyer for me so in all fairness Ill try not to lash out on any comments. The year I failed grade one I was really young and every day I would walk with my friends. My mom told me all that year how hard I worked how she was so prode of me. So when I was dimissed from the last day of school all i could think of is how mom and dad will be so prode of me. The sky was so nice and sunny with a gougs wind its werid how I remebr it so vividly. I ran home so fast that day and when I got in the door my mom wanted to see my report card at that momet. she said MrLost no matter how good or bad you did I want you to know that me and dad both love you. My mom opened it and then idmitly handed it to my father. I cannt put the horrable langage down here for I would get banned but I ensure you that now I think bad at gared one was my first panic attack. I froze and ran to my room and like any useless kid I cryed for hours. I heard my father a few hour later say that he did not want to talk to me so my mom came in and tryed to applize for him. Now a little kid not know much I still new that that meant nothing. I meant my mom was sorry that she showed my father. Now after she left I locked my door which was a huge no no in that house hold due to that being the fire exit or rather my parents best entence to attacking me when Im down. My father came in 30 min or so latter saying open this bleep door or ill bleep it down. I yelled back NO! and then he said if I beak it down your paying for it and at that point I opened it becuase if he broke it I would be hearing more yelling. Payment was the last thing on my mind after what he said. So I unlocked It and coverd myself under the blankets becuase thats where I felt most safe. he sat down and talked in a fake calm voice. sarting to appoligige. I half lissoned untill he tryed to take the last thing protecting me from him. That being the blanet. I griped the thing as hard as I could as he tryed pulling it off me. He swared a few thosand times and then left. he came in a few more always end in a simmuler way. The last time he came in he left quitely. Ok maybe he learned maybe this will never happen again maybe he really is sorry. I steped out and I spoke to him. I gave in and to this day i wish i never did. Becuase latter they thought I had ADD and was tested and he blamed that on every thing i did. Every thing that went wrong weather he backed into a tree or i directed him into a tree. I will naver keep a job, I will never learn to drive, I will never live on my own, I will never...
My brother he fixed every thing. I had no confince in school, I have no coficence in my self, and I was told this every day for since I was in grade one. I just started back on my feet. I'm a bad person I tell my self every time I tell that story. I know I'm not but The things I did to handle it all at such a yong age. The things Im doing to handle that and the other stories. I'm sorry but maybe I just cant do it ya know. Maybe they are right. I prayed to god ever since a little kid and I was blind and you know I still am I cant see him maybe becuase I dont know.

One last word of worrning that I was going say at the srat in which im wrong moslikely any ways. Take theses words only if they make since to you. but if you cant be stong enouogh to help people tthen I use to think whats the point helping them. At the same time if one wants help there is no need to make another person feel bad just cuz you cant keep your self together. I done that in a church once when a person my age was try to help and they broke down. That almost done it for me. Im stronger now...maybe not I feel like crap. For give my spelling I cant re read this for it brings back all the flash backs at once

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   Posted 8/9/2010 3:16 PM (GMT -7)   

I wrote you a post but deleted it because I was angry with what you said and I said things I shouldn't have. 

You seem rude at times, but I think it is anger.  And I don't think you can help yourself. 

But I am not your counselor, I just moderate the forum.  I try to answer questions just like any other member would, but I don't seem to have any answers that you seem to appreciate.  So I just know that I did the best that I could.  I hope that you feel better soon.  And I hope that things work out for you.


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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/9/2010 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I understand :D
Theses forums are meant to get raw emotion out some times but like I said There is no call for getting upset at someone who is trying to help you. I'm deeply sorry. Things stop moving or things begin you rust and whether you know you it or not you got something out of me that was in my mind anyways. So in fact invertly helped me without knowing it lol :D im sort of recovering from that. Like I said before I have a weird mind set and things like that I get out but they come back now and again. There is something I like to call triggers. I dont always know what those triggers are. But they reveal the unknown. For me anyways. If you can see whats bugging you and get it out it will sting like a....and then you will feel better. The length of time depends on the next trigger. That being said it get hard in finding what the direct trigger is. I know because for me every thing rotates around that event. The thing for me is sometimes stories lead into other ones going into a maze. Everyone is different and no one can tell you how your mind works you just have to lookin to your self. Then again I could no nothing and that could all be in my head to but what ever works right? lol

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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Just for the record Mr.lost01, people on here won't respond to you well if you respond to their suggestions as defensively and as rudely as you do. I get that it's probably out of anger about what's going on in your life, but really, no one on here deserves to receive the kind of responses you've been dishing out. You don't have to take our advice, but if you don't want to accept it, why ask in the first place? Rhetorical question..I know you want the answers, but truthfully we don't have all the answers either. If you want real answers from professionals, see a doctor. Since you don't want to do that, don't get upset and defensive towards us when you don't like what we say.

--Che
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Mr.lost01
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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I really don't know what to say. Other then i meant no harm and that I'm sorry for that like I said before :.C


sorry but the Rhetorical question that's im not suppose to reflect on don't make much since. Why would you even say that if you ''know'' I want answers. Lol consulars keep telling me they dont know all the answers as well :D lifes a...

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   Posted 8/9/2010 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Lost,
I do wish you well on your journey, but saying that you're really just posting here to get your anger out makes me wonder whether maybe you could benefit from keeping an electronic journal, rather than posting to a Forum designed for advice & support. If that's the case, one free online journaling site is: penzu.com/content

Since none of us here are professionals, you are likely to continue to hear recommendations to see a doctor, psychiatrist or counselor. This is just because we don't know how to diagnose or treat depression. All we can do is share our own experiences & in the vast majority of cases, we ourselves have gone to doctors and counselors. So that's why so many of us recommend that. Of course you are welcome to try other options, but we don't really have the expertise to recommend anything else -- just to tell what worked for us.

Hope the journal site helps!

take care,
frances

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   Posted 8/9/2010 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Im not looking for that. A friend subjected teen touch would be a better place so i maybe ill do that. All i know is that i need something and the more. the more I stay here the more i feel this is the wrong place. none of you depression is anything like mine anyways. This is the closest thing but not to sound rude however like most places i feel rather unliked. I wish you all the best of luck but I think this is going to be my last post here.

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   Posted 8/10/2010 5:36 AM (GMT -7)   
that is far from true. my depression is my life. over 20 plus yrs. and i live with severe borderline personality disorder as well. along with so much crap that hw's compuer would explode if i posted it all!! jamie.

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   Posted 8/10/2010 7:45 AM (GMT -7)   
One last thing. You quoted from David D. Burns. He has a great book out called Feeling Good, get the book. You will find it very useful.
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   Posted 8/10/2010 8:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Depression ! I always asked myself if I was depressed or just looking for attention. I than realized that it was just me heading towards a depression,when I hit it,I knew I was sick. Counsellors,psychiatrists take into consideration everything from your birth order to every small detail in your life,and help you in ways we can't help ourself. Firstly,because we would be too biased towards ourself and secondly we aren't taught in school how to deal with lows in life.
Medication comes when it is really needed ! I'm dealing with depression on my own,because none lets me take help. People here don't know me but they care. And it helps alot.
Everyone here has been through or is going through something which is alot for them. I think even you are. I respect you for dealing with life,because I have never lived your life.
Take Care of yourself.
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