Hey Ralph ! Don't Worry, be Happy

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snohare
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   Posted 3/19/2005 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
nono  As the duck said to his friend with the ingrowing quills, "don't get down-hearted !"
If you don't spend time with shooting folks, you're not likely to pick up on the way shooters tend to be either "Responsible" or "responsible for mayhem", and the first group really hates to be confused with the second.  yeah  Even knowing that, I wasn't sure if that "step right back" was humorous or not.
  eyes IMHO, speaking as a foreigner from a country where if anyone even sees a gun in public it usually results in a SWAT team arrest and newspaper headlines, I think there's maybe a touch of hypersensitivity in the US about the dichotomy between "everyone has the right to bear arms" and "people + guns can kill innocent people". Not to mention the NRA do have a really bad reputation amongst some Responsible shooters, because they're the people who lobbied against introducing technology that would "personalise" some types of newer handguns so that they could only be fired by the legal owner. (Helping to eliminate the "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" problem.)
In Scotland, I practically count as a gun nut because I have actually fired about three different types of weapon and used to do target shooting on a range.  yeah  Most people here will never ever see a firearm except on TV.
So, like the fox that went amongst the chickens, you may get a bit down in the mouth, but sometimes you just find out about gun use the hard way...!
Anyway, while I'm here (this question is open to anyone on the forum)...what do you do to escape from things ?  (Ironically enough, for me it used to be target shooting, but that's not open to me any more.) I'm looking for a new hobby - preferably cheap  eyes   - that will occupy not only my hands but my mind as well, without being too energetic.
Reading is my standard escapist pastime, but I get very stiff shoulders and headaches sitting reading nowadays, so I think I need something more active.
I'm lost. My concentration is lousy at the moment, so open-ended questions like this are really not my forte.
Any suggestions ? Anyone ? 

RainDance
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   Posted 3/19/2005 7:07 PM (GMT -7)   

Snohare...

I can only assume from one of your comments, that you are in Scotland.  If so, have you thought of Golf... ??????

Gentle exercise and, you can get out a few aggresive thoughts.  All kinds of ways to play, from putting practice in your living room to 400 yard drives. 

One can swim, knit, paint, restore furniture, antique clocks, cars.. a million things..

Hope you figure out something that will feel productive to you.


RainDance
 
We get through this one day at a time.. :)


Ralph
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   Posted 3/19/2005 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Golf is a great pastime. It sure helps me and my depression. It seems to one of the only things I enjoy doing. You don't have to be good at it to have "fun". You just have to find others who are worse than you to make it interesting.

Weather here makes it only possible to play from April until October.

I would certainly like to be as well read as you are Snohrare. Your intellectual capacity leaves me in the dust. Golf might bore you.

It can be expensive if you join a club. But we just pay "green fees" which costs about $35 for a round of 18 holes. Don't know if this compares to Scotland, but I know in the U.S. the price is much the same and there are many public courses.

The game itself is one where great friendships are made. Then there is always the"19th hole". Do you play, RainDance?

I also find projects I can do around the house a great pastime and good therapy. The only thing here is my do-it-yourself creations look like I did them myself.

It reminds me of the story about the guy who applied for a job as a Handyman. "Do you know carpentry' he was asked. "Nope" he replied.
"How about electrician" ? "No I never did any". " Plumbing then"? "No can't say I can do that" "Welding"? "I don't have a clue"

"Well , what makes you so handy then?"

"Oh, I just around the corner" tongue

RainDance
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   Posted 3/20/2005 1:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Ha ha.. Ralph, the operative word here is, "play."  That's what I do is play at the game.  I Can't get Under that silly ball.. !
 
Started playing last year, when a friend put a 5 iron in my hand and a practice ball on the grass in front of me in his front yard.  I was hooked..  Then, I drug my husband to visit him and our friend did the same thing to him.  We're a foursome now.  His wife and I just have a really good time laughing at the balls we lose... more fun than anyone should have.
 
We use the carts and don't go on the weekends.  (Cheaper during the week) My friend has COPD and I don't do very well and his wife has a bum knee... What a bunch but, we have a good time.
 
As for golf being boring, before he retired, my friend was Quality Assurance then LAN Administrator for a major Aerospace company here in the SF Bay Area.  In high school, he was talking to us about levels of Math that I can't even pronounce, graduated with a B average and never opened a book.  
 
But, I mention him and his background because, he knows how far each club should take the ball, then stands there on the course and calculates within a foot or so of where he needs to be, checks wind, lay of the green, etc., etc., and puts that ball right where he wants it.  Sickening.. !  haha.  But the rest of us just grip it and rip it.. and hope for the best.. !  hahaha  But to do well, you have to be pretty smart.
 
His favorite thing to say to her and I is, "Still your turn."  If you know golf, you know that means she and I are still further away from the hole than he is... haha..
 
Yep, it's a great game, and I Highly recommend it to all of us here.  Fresh air, nature, walking, friends and, the 19th hole.. Ahhhhhhh.. !
 
We go about once a month for 18 holes (9 if we don't all feel well) and on the other weeks, will go for the driving/practice range.  You can spend and afternoon, not much $$ and use the putting green for no charge.  I hear the game is won or lost on the putting green.
 
The other good thing about the game is, you can play at your own pace.  You develope a swing that doesn't stress your body and still produces decent results. 
 
I think Scotland is where the game originated.. (?)
 
So, Snohare, get to your local public course, take the minimum lessons and give it a go.  I think you will like it.  :)  Right Ralph?

RainDance
 
We get through this one day at a time.. :)


snohare
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   Posted 3/20/2005 7:21 AM (GMT -7)   

  :-) I think that could indeed be a "hole in one" guys ! yeah You must be "on the ball".

Golf (originated in St Andrews, just down the coast from here) is something I did have a short lesson at once, and really enjoyed the focus needed. Which is what shooting requires, and I really miss. I had completely forgotten I had ever even tried it. Most of the golfers I know are well off, and frankly I can't afford to spend much money if any - £5 a time at most. (My income's only £72 a week.) I'd also kind of thought, golfing = long bus journey/long walks, both of which are impossible for me at present. But I had forgotten the local council course, which is bound to be cheap if not actually free to the unemployed, and only a short bus ride away.

tongue  Ralph, I'm going to steal that joke ! yeah As anyone who knows me here will testify, that is exactly how I ended up becoming a "handyman" - I was who they had to help them...("Always practice on other people's property" is my motto eyes )

I'm not really into the winning thing RainDance, what I'm after is the "Zen Zone" mind/body focus like you get with rock climbing... so I think golfing practice will do just hunky-dory. 


RainDance
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   Posted 3/20/2005 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Snohare,

Ya, I agree, you can spend a fortune on golf but also, there is no requirement that you do that, in order to have fun and, a bit physical and mental exercise. 

Then there is the added benefit.. "This Swing's for You, Dr. So and So.. !  haha. Yep, good for what ails ya.. !

Here in California, we get a tv channel which carries golf programs all day long.  Be surprised what you can learn just from watching some of the instruction and competition.

And as for the Zen thing.. You can really focus on your body.  I Need to, as I have a tendency to use the clubs like baseball bats...!  haha.. It Ain't Baseball and the body movements are different.. !
 
Winning isn't the game for me either.  My friend usually comes in on every hole with a birdie.  You don't bother keeping score when you give up, put the ball in your pocket and look for the next flag... ha ha.
 
But, I do recommed it to everyone.  Life is just to short not to laugh at yourself.. !
RainDance
 
We get through this one day at a time.. :)


Akram
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   Posted 3/21/2005 3:37 AM (GMT -7)   
apart from golf, you may want to try taking Yoga clases or dancing leasons! even you can try learning some music instruments or singing. lots of things you can get involved with :) it is always good to have more than 1 hobby ^^
                                                     To be or not to Be


Ralph
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   Posted 3/21/2005 6:32 AM (GMT -7)   
One of the more inexpensive hobbies I have is hiking. I used to go down to the state of New Hampshire and hike along various sections of "The Long Trail" which runs from the state of Georgia to Maine. This is a most wonderful series of well blazed and well maintained trails which can be accessed from many areas.

You can hike short walks of an hour or two to staying overnight in a mountain cabin to continue a longer journey. For depression I find this to be a wonderful way to get exercise, commune with nature and meet people trying to do the same.

I'm sure that in Scotland there must be beautiful walks to take in such a scenic country. How about it snohare ?

snohare
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   Posted 3/21/2005 5:57 PM (GMT -7)   
eyes  Oh, if only Ralph !
I'd love to go out for an overnighter to one of my beloved bothies. yeah   yeah  
I used to spend all my spare time in the hills. My stamping ground was the Cairngorms, a range of hills bordering the Dee valley, near Balmoral where the Queen stays. (Hence known as "Royal Deeside".) Even now my parents have moved out there to retire (our family roots are in the area), and most of my relatives are in the village of Braemar, where the Royal Highland Games are held. So given the chance, I'd spend half my life out there.
Nowadays however I find that even the two hour bus journey can be a gruelling ordeal - no toilets on our buses ! - and given that a trip to our local Safeway is often the limit of my daily perambulations, the idea of a mile or two is laughable. eyes Sadly. 
For a man who used to fell trees, build mountain footpaths and do cross-country ski-ing and solo winter backpacking, I'm afraid my options now are extremely limited. Three or four hours on my feet, never mind walking with a pack, is enough to leave me cream crackered.
Still, as my muscles shrink my mind expands... tongue  
I think I may be a harbinger of the next stage in evolution as discussed by science fiction writers; I am gradually losing the power of mobility, and becoming all brain..... yeah devil Next stop, the daleks !

RainDance
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   Posted 3/21/2005 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey Snohare,

Don't feel alone in the reversal of muscle mass.  I was the one who broke up all the concrete of our old 25 foot, 4 inch thick driveway, with a 16 pound sledge hammer, put the chuncks in the back of the pick up and hauled it off to the dumps where I unloaded it myself... Then, me and one other guy poured a new 60 foot long 12' wide driveway.  Yep, I can skreet concrete with the best of them.

Then, I put the new composition roof on the 22x40 garage and also, the "covered patio," of the house, laid a concret walkway 4 feet wide and 25 feet long then, went in the house at night and rustled up some grub.. !  Why the grub?  I Am a Woman and that was my job.. !  My husband was at work and I didn't work.. tongue   hahaha..

Oh ya, and that was all while being a Licenced Day Care giver, with ten kidos coming back every afternoon from school who needed homework help, food and entertainment.

Ah yes, them were the days.. !  haha

You're lucky Snohare, my mind is going too.. !  hahaha


RainDance
 
We get through this one day at a time.. :)


Ralph
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   Posted 3/21/2005 9:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I must admit my ignorance of your desease leads me to make suggestions that are unreasonable. I must also state that being "longer in tooth" has rendered me much less mobile than I once was.

The fact that I am also a "couch potato" has not helped. I sometimes think that 20 years ago was yesterday. My mind is willing but the body is in bad shape. sad

Sno, is there a chance for remission in your case? You are a young man and you seem to have made reference to being able to accomplish many physical tasks.

Raindance . You must be quite a specimen to have broken cement like a convict. Hey, maybe you were a convict. Your driveway story made me tired. I'm sure I'm not up to that heavy labour. My hat is off to you. (if I wore a hat) yeah tongue

RainDance
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   Posted 3/21/2005 10:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Hahaha.. Ralph, sometimes I felt like I was working on the chain gang but, nope, just a wife who knew her husband was doing all that he could, working two jobs to keep home and hearth together and so, I took up the slack.
 
I'm lucky to get supper on the table every night now.. My rump don't get out of bed till at least ten.  The body is paying for all them years but, it's ok.. He brings me my hot chocolate in the morning.. :)  Payback.. !  haha.
 
Sno, you know we hope you will be able to get out to the local course and drive one or two down the fairway, or anything that will help you mentally.  These diseases that we have are as hard on the mental state as they are on our bodies.
 
Good health to you both.
 
RainDance
 
We get through this one day at a time.. :)

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