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Flaminguts
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   Posted 4/9/2005 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I have read some information about different meds but alot of them sound exactly the same to me. What exactly is the difference between a prozac or zoloft? I read that wellbutrin is different in its side effects (no sexual side effects), but does it work differently?
 
I am just wondering how a doctor figures out what is actually the right thing for you. I hope that the prozac works. But I think that I will need a sleep aid on top of this because it has made my insomnia issues worse than before.
 
I am just looking to see what the best option out there are? I remember someone mention that some are good for depression and pain? I have issues with both but tend to ignore the pain. Any thoughts on this?
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Cloudy30
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   Posted 4/9/2005 9:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi D-Rule,
 
What I have found with medication is that it takes time to find the right combination. For one reason or another some work better than others. 
 
For me it was frusturating at first but it was well worth it when I found a better combination.  I think it will always be a work in progress for me.  My body is stubborn when it comes to the meds
 
 
I hope that you will find your medicine working for you quickly without a lot of experimenting. 
 
 
Best of luck to you,
Cloudy30

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   Posted 4/10/2005 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello D-Rule,

I too have tried several SSRI's (the class of drugs that the med's you mentioned fit into). I have finally ended up with lexapro. But these drugs do have subtle differences which make them a trial and error process from person to person. I too have increased insomnia due to my anti-d. I have finally rounded it out with a 25 mg dose of another anti-d called amitriptyline and I am finally sleeping well. I too have pain issues, but am on anti-inflams and plaquenel for that. Couldy is right . . . it is a trial and error process, but well worth the effort.

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   Posted 4/11/2005 5:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know what is the difference but for me it was the side effects. I was, in order,put on Prozac, Paxil, Celexa, and then Zoloft. My doctor never really explained what the difference except change it every time I would complain about the side effects.
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Angeliavanh
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   Posted 4/11/2005 6:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I am not sure about that but I suffer from depression but these days its not that bad but back then they couldent find a med they tryed all kinds on me and it was the hardest thing cause i had to overcome depression by myself it wasent easy but i tryed to make it the best thing ever i wrote in a jurnol and wrote and wrote never stopped and i tell you what it helps alot you may think it dont but it dose i suffer from depression because i have been abused awhile back and no one belived me but after going to cousiling and stuff my aunt learned to discpline us in ways of not abusing us i lived 8 years without parents in my life do i feel srry do i blame myself no i dont i just go day by day relizing i wanna be better then my famliy do i hate them no everyone makes mistakes and sometime you just have to suck it up and live with it. I will never hate my parents for what they put me though i will always love and care for them i have learned alot living here with my aunt then i would have if i lived with my parents learned how to clean cook take care of kids all that and what got me this far is writeing in a book try it it works
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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 4/11/2005 8:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Angelia is correct. Writing and journalling is a tool which counselors suggest as well. It is beneficial because when you put your thoughts in writing it is easier to see things for what they really are. When things stir around in your head, they can seem a lot worse than they really are.

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Flaminguts
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   Posted 4/11/2005 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a lot of stirring. Of course I usually write it all down too. Sometimes here, sometimes in a journal of sorts. I wish that would help me think about things less often. I think a big part of why I can't sleep is just an inability to relax. Sounds like a lot of people take xanax, is that stuff mild or potent? is it a sedative? I would ask my doc for some of those if it would help me stop thinking about everything for a while, it is like a constant nervous worrying. You would never know if you looked at me though, it isnt like a panic attack- My mom said I am stoic. I don't show my emotions in my face very often. I also have a job that require me to be very unemotional. But inside my mind is running a hundred miles an hour.

My thoughts are usually about how I am going to end up losing my job or how I will have another major flare up. How will I take care of my wife and what will my family think of me if I end up on disability? I never really let my mind rest.
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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 4/11/2005 8:43 PM (GMT -7)   
D-Rule,

I am a thinker too. My mom always said from the time I was little "that mind never stops, does it". I now take amitriptyline for sleep. It is an anti-d, but I take at bedtime and it has allows me to sleep. I could take it 2 hours before bed and it doesn't make me tired, but it lets me sleep. I'm not sure how. I was getting no sleep because of pain and then developed insomnia. I am hoping this a short term med and that I'll be able to sleep better when I can get back to some moderate exercise.

I sometimes read to fall asleep too.

May you sleep well tonight friend!!

Blessings!
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CheerDad
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   Posted 4/12/2005 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
As a rule, anti-depression medications come in different classifications. Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa are classified as SSRI's and target the area of the brain that is the seratonine (SP) receptors. Wellbutrin, Effexor are in a different classification of medication that target other areas of the brain and it's hormonal secretions. This is why it may take several tries before finding the one that works best for you. Even within the same classification of meds, your body will react to it differently. Good luck in finding the answers you are looking for.
 
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   Posted 4/13/2005 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I have another question about the prozac and other anti-depression drugs. When they begin to work, do you 'feel' differently? How can you tell? I really not sure how long it is going to take to notice anything, I am at the end of week 2. The jittery feeling went away a few days ago, so that is good. I was just hoping someone could tell me what it is like when they kick in.
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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 4/13/2005 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I didn't feel like they were doing anything. What I noticed was that people weren't "argueing" as much and they weren't "yelling" at me as much. I thought my husband was an absolute peach and my kids seemed like they were the brady bunch (4 youngsters at the time). Suddenly, I realized that "I was ME again". Hurray. I hope that happens to you to. I couldn't believe how much better life was.!!!!

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Flaminguts
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   Posted 4/18/2005 6:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, I am on week three and I have started to notice a difference. I really thought they would have a huge effect. Everyone dubs these as 'happy pills' which always sort of gave me the impression that they would have a dramatic 'happier than normal' kind of effect.

Well, I must say that I have been feeling more like myself than I had in quite some time. I suppose that is a dramatic change since I had been feeling like garbage for over a year now. I started to get into one of my hobbies again this weekend and I went to the gym.

I will still go see the therapist, just for kicks. I don't think there is anything really wrong with my state of mind. I have always been pretty positive. I just think the long period of illness had just taken too much of a toll on my body and mind. But it will be interesting to see what someone elses take on my situation will be.

Thanks everyone for your advice and words of encouragement!
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   Posted 4/18/2005 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   
D-Rule,

Glad to hear that you are feeling some improvement.

I agree. Anti-d's just allow me to feel like the real me again.

Blessings!
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   Posted 4/18/2005 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Glad to hear that you are noticing some change. I too thought it would be more dramatic than it has been. My Dr. refers to them as coping pills, not happy pills. Happiness is something I need to work for, not some "magic pill". Too bad. I wish it were that easy, but the meds certainally help me feel calmer about life and able to search for that elusive happiness because I am not focusing so much energy on just getting through the day. Good luck and keep us posted.


 
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Flaminguts
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   Posted 4/19/2005 12:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Randy,

I hear you about the 'happy pill'. That would be awesome. Of course I am feeling alot more motivated to do stuff now that the prozac has kicked in. I have been to the gym 3 days in a row. That is a first for well over a year. I used to be a total gym rat.

So, it might not be a true happy pill, but I am doing much better because of it. Now if I can get the prednisone weight off!!!
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   Posted 4/19/2005 1:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Great to hear that you are feeling some relief D-Rule . . . sounds like your are on a good start toward the real you.

Blessings!
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Locket
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   Posted 4/20/2005 9:58 AM (GMT -7)   
How are you feeling now,D-Rule?
Are ya getting 'happy" yet? cool
Are ya jumping around yelling, "Hey Dudes, lets partY!!!!" devil
When you referred to prozac as a happy pill, it made me smile. :-)
Yep, thats what most people think!!!
D-Rule, glad you are getting into hobbies again. Thats a good sign!!!!!

Flaminguts
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   Posted 4/20/2005 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Locket!

Im not quite running around yelling "Hey Dudes, lets partY!!!!" But I am feeling much more normal. I honestly didnt know what to expect. The doctors dont tell you what it is supposed to be like, so you just assume!

After hearing the term brain candy, and happy pill, I just thought that I would be like SUPER SMILEYFACED guy. :-)

Well, it is good to just feel like me though. and going to the gym and woodworking make me happy, so I guess the happy pill thing is true. It gave me back my motivation!
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