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Wotan
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   Posted 8/2/2005 5:48 AM (GMT -7)   
   Hopefully, I can get some helpful feedback from a few people on this.  My depression had been w me now for over 4 yrs.     I have gone on & off of meds & know i am in therapy & taking a new med (Paxil).   I used to be a HS teacher (last taught in 1980) but left, as the stress was too much for me.I'm in my late 50s.    I work from home on the phone & have been doing so since 1992.      
 
  But, now, w my depression, i feel i can no longer work productively.   I'm tired all the time.  I feel i need to sleep in mid afternoon. I can't concentrate & my memory fails me.   Last yr. my total income was a little over &8,000.   I have come to the conclusion i should apply for Social Security disabilty-as i feel i am truly disabled.   My therapist agrees w my assesment.   I don't want to put any futher financial burden on my wife.    I won't get that much on SSD- but, it's more than i'm making now, plus , the stress of talking w people on the phone is getting to me.
 
  Again--i am diagnosed w "Major depression" & honestly--i know 2 other people who are on disability for depression--that "seem" (i stress "seem")---less deprssed than i--when i see them.     (it's been awhile now that i see them).  Anyway----does anyone here have any experience at all w going thru the process of getting SS disability???  I know they use a "grid" a kind of chart----where there are such headings as "AGE"    "EDUCATION"   "SKILLS"---    Then they make a determination.
 
  i hear timr & time again---that they turn you down on the first try---& that you must get an atty----who usually isuccesful in the 2nd or 3rd appeal--(they get like 1/3 of the lump sum retroactive check)----but, again----any feedback will be appreciated----I know my therapist will write a good solid reprt verifying my disability----& my family Dr.is really only need for reports from other specialists (Cardiologist--i have mitral valve prolapse & all the fatigue that brings)----& meds.
 
  Thanks again---I just applied late July---they told me it would be 4-5 months before i hear (Im expecting to get forms for my wife to fill out re: my condition)----is it a "must" that  get initially turned down??    A friend of mine who is an attorney (not disability atty)---says that biggest factor & to my advantage is age---I'm 59---i guess they don't feel it's worth the energy to even suggest i do something else.    Heck, if i can't work on the phone from home---what can i do???       Hoping to hear---Please--it is soo dificult getting feedback on this.    Kindest regards--Robert  

damwinston
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   Posted 8/2/2005 5:58 AM (GMT -7)   
honestly I don't know. i am 29 and think that with both depression and seizures i should probably be getting disability but they will never approve me. anyway, i can't answer any of your questions but wanted to post because i hate it when i post and no one answers which, of course, makes me feel like no one cares.
people do care.
love,
dammy
Thanks for listening.
If I can do anything to help you please let me know.
 
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Wotan
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   Posted 8/2/2005 6:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, dammy---i appreciate your thoughfullness. Some advice-if you feel you are really disabled-you should apply! the advice i get from people & from doing "searches" is.....":they want to make it difficult for the applican.." "They want the applicant to get discouraged...but with persistence & an attorney (who will take the case on a 'contingency'---you will win!"-----Anyway--hope that helps AND i hope i get feedback from people who have had first hand expeerience & been thru "the process". Robert

Having2LeftFeet
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   Posted 8/2/2005 6:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to our group. I have thought about how I would respond to your post and I will do it subject by subject.
 
On the subject of working at home as opposed to working outside the home, it brings one thing to mind. My sleep therapist told me NEVER to watch TV in bed because the bed is for sleeping and if you watch TV or whatever in bed, it will feel like no change when you try to go to sleep. It's kinda like a cow producing OJ. That could be one issue, and I understand your reasoning as for the depression and High School kids would drive me nuts too. I owned and operated a day care center for 11 years with 115 kids and I thought I was losing my mind. I sold it and went into a different line of work, also self employed.
 
Second, on the subject of SSD. I am going to shoot straight from the hip and I will not "tap dance". I have Lupus, a debilitating disease with no cure. I also have Fibromyalgia, AKA chronic fatigue syndrome. I also have epilepsy, however, I didn't get that until after SSD. I fought tooth and nail to get SSD. The first time I was turned down, I struck back. The second time, I struck back again. The third time was when they sent me to their Doctor. Well, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he is fighting for the gov., not the patient. After that, I sat and wrote letters to my Mayor, Governor, Councilmen and women, Senators, both Rep. and Dem, and I got responses from all. Some favorable, some not. I explained how many hours my husband had to work to support us. We owned a business, worked for ourselves and I wasn't working because I was in bad shape. I went to every doctor for reports, forms to fill out on my behalf and all my past medical history. When it came down to it, I asked for a hearing, BUT, did not hire an Attorney. Why should I pay an Attorney 30% of my benefits if I won the case and as I pray to the good Lord, I knew He would decide what was best for me. All the papers were filled out and sent to the Judge that would hear my case. I appeared before the Judge without a lawyer and he questioned if I wanted to postpone to get one and I told him no. I told him he had all my medical history and diagnosis and I had the Lord on my shoulder keeping me together. He heard my case, asked a lot of questions and at the end he asked me if I wanted to make a statement. I stood up and said I would. I told him that I felt so bad for my husband falling asleep in his dinner every night from working 18 hrs a day and night on commercial accounts and because he was self-employed, there was no retirement benefits I had. I broke down and he understood. I left that court room confident and 10 days later I got a letter in the mail stating I was going to get my benefits, retro-active as I had been unemployed for over 2 years. I had to wait 4 months but it paid off as my check was $7,000 +. No Attorney, no 33% of my check. All they are is a "mouthpiece". 
 
What I am trying to say is that I don't think any Judge would grant you SSD on the premise of depression alone.  Another reason I got my benefits was due to a very caring and supportive Congress Woman who wrote letters for me on my behalf. She passed away last year. She was a gem. I have been on SSD for over 4 years now. I get $822 a month which almost pays out rent of $950 a month. My husband has a new job, a good job and great benefits and he loves it. He travels as a sales rep for a large company in the Northeast/New England area. Southern Vermont and New Hampshire. Like clockwork my check is in the bank every 4th Wed of the month. If you are making $88,000 a year, I don't think that is anything is "sneeze" about. That is a lot of money in comparison to what you would get from SSD. You would probably make around $20,000 a year, give or take. I don't know how old you are and when you started working but if you are self-employed and have been for a while, I take it you haven't claimed Medicare wages? Income? Donno. 
 
Here's what to do. Call SS and tell them you want a statement of your present benefits. They will send you one and each year to follow. It will tel you exactly how much you wold get a month for being disabled, retirement or spousal benefits. Go to www.ssi.gov. You can make a request there. I hope this has helped. Let me know how you make out!
 
"Lefty"     
There is no such word as can't. Can't simply means wouln't. Grab as much as life as you can. Future is a long way away for those who don't believe. Don't build a foundation of life on sand. It will take it away with the tide. Love a little more, be unkind a lot less.


Wotan
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   Posted 8/2/2005 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lefty---Thanks so much for your kinf, thoughtful & detailed post. OK--here's where i stand. I have major depression. My therapist is "on my side" -feels i am disabled. Again, lawyer friend says i have one big thing in my favor--age!!! I'm 59 (maybe you were much younger--in fact i'm sure you were)---from all indications--age is #1 factor. #2) The SS want to be sure you can do NO kind of work. So say, you are working in a factory, standing---& you get a herniated disc---you can still do, sitting work--like book keeping etc. They call that "Transferable skill". My siutation is----i am very depressed, tired, cry a lot, can't really function. I also have mitral valve prolapse---which causes me fatigue & irreglar heart beats--have this all documented! Lawyer told me---what most people do WRONG is---they don't go "Across the board"....should say---"I'm depressed, can't sleep, hard time getting out of bed--talking w people---even showering is difficult. No energy, forgetful, etc---NOT---"I'm depressed!"---They want a wide range of things.

Glad you got what you deserved---The SS people WANT you to give up!!! IF you persevere--usually you win. I would get an atty--& pay the 1/3----you have courage!!! HOPEFULLY, i'll get it first time----hey, you gonna turn down a 59 yr old guy---for a measley $900/month----while his wife takes the burden of the bills--food, rent etc?? I think not!! Thanks again--any other stories??? Robert

JOVIGIRL71
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   Posted 8/2/2005 11:59 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Everyone,

I am visiting from the Ulcerative Colitis forum. I am 33 and have UC and depression and Anxiety. I am non lexapro for my mood disorder and other for my UC. I applied for SS in April of this year. They just had me see one of there therapists for an evaluations. She really felt I need to be on SS at this time in my life even though I am young. I can't handle the work force any longer. I have worked since I was 16yrs with no breaks in between. I developed UC at 16 yrs of age also. So its taken a toll on me physically and mentally. So I applied for SS first time this yr. I just wanted to share my story and to let Robert know you are not alone. SS is a tough road to go down and they do want you to give up but don't. You know when its time to give your body a rest mentally and physically.

Good Luck


~~~ Donna
UC Since 1987
 
Live life as it comes....


Wotan
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   Posted 8/2/2005 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, than you so much , Donna. Your post was such a help to me. One quick question---am i right here??? You applied this April & just got approved now?? That is not too bad---just 4 months. Were you initially turned down?? get back---or e-mail me---thanks--Robert

Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/4/2005 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
.....Robert.....I am Canadian and I fought for yrs for disability and SC and Donna are so right they want you to give up but DON'T.......I have A/P disorder,crohns (but did not have that dx then) as well as PG .......as I said I fought and the lawyers here work directly out of a clinic there are 4 of them just for disability tribunals (they dont get money from the applicant:the government pays it (legal aid )......I ended up with a cheque for just shy of $9000.00 and my monthly amount is 1,300.00 plus all meds are paid for (except a $2.00 fee) and eye care as well as dental work on myself and daughter is also covered ..............now I realise this is not the same as the States but wanted to let you know not to give up and YES your age should be an asset as well as they wont have you go back for retraining at school right .........Just wanted to share a Canadian point of view lol.......My thoughts and prayers are with you ...........God Bless ........Lyn
 
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Having2LeftFeet
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   Posted 8/4/2005 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
yeah  Robert,
You got some very favorable posts here and I think their advice is good. You have to keep going and not quit trying which is what I did. It took over 2 years. I was 51 when I started getting benefits. If you and your Physicians think you have a case, go for it. You have nothing to lose. My attitude was, "That is my money, I worked for 35 years to earn it. See they let SS sit in a bank and draw interest and that's why they don't want to part with it, especially now with all the SS changes. I will hold good thoughts that you are successful. Please know that was my feedback on my first post and that's what you asked for. Now with the support you have here, God bless!
 
"Lefty" 
There is no such word as can't. Can't simply means wouln't. Grab as much as life as you can. Future is a long way away for those who don't believe. Don't build a foundation of life on sand. It will take it away with the tide. Love a little more, be unkind a lot less.


Wotan
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   Posted 8/4/2005 9:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you both so much, Lyn & Left-- NO- i do not plan on giving up as i know--i am truly disabled! I am 59 & have paid into the system.

Thank God, i found an excellent therapist---she is so supportive & just yesterday told me the same thing as you guys did. Don't give up. She sais she would personally speak to my family Dr. when he gets back from his vacation in Sept.

Lyn & Lefty---yesterday---tears came to my eyes when she said--"Robert, you are truly suffering & yes, i know you are disabled!" Then, she told me she had worked as an evaluation Psychologist for SS for 3 yrs & is familiar w the way they work & their shenanigans! It is such a great, secure feeling when you have a Dr. &/or therapist who is on your side & who truly understands!! God answered my prayer when i prayed for the "right & perfect" therapist (actually --i had turned down 3 other people, just by their uncaring demeanors----& one person i did want---told me he was retiring & cutting back---God had this one in mind!0

Here is a great site which shows the "GRID" Social Security uses---- & yes, my age (59) is definitely to my advantage---they give younger people a much tougher time! The site is wwwsevere.net When you get to site--go to upper left & click on "auto grid"---then again-----the next page---you go to lower left of page & hit "auto grid". It seems a BIG determination is their evaluation ----of "skills transferable" (ie: say you work in a stock room moving boxes & get a slipped disc in your back---THEIR point is---"OK--you cannot do THAT job--but how bout a desk job?" Which makes sense----so, they would classify you as 'skills transferable'---& reject your claim. THEIR point is--to be "diabled" you are not able to do ANY work---& if young enough---can you go back to school & be retrained)-----Hence us "older folks" (i'm in the 55+ category)---are given a little leeway.

Anyway---my therapist said---you are disabled & you should get the SS disabilty--tho they MAY want you to see THEIR psychiatrist--but, i should win!! She is so understanding, empathetic, & helpful.

I hope you find that "Disabilty Grid" helpful & i thank ALL of you from the bottom of my hearts---you are such caring, empathetic people & we people who are suffering----& where others do NOT understand--must stick together & be supportive. I hope i can help others as much as you all have helped me!!! Whenever i see a new post from "healing Well"---my heart jumps for joy--it's like i'm being visited by a good friend---I feel God directed me to my therapist---.....AND, to this site---Prayers & Blessings to all of you----Robert

JOVIGIRL71
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   Posted 8/4/2005 10:04 AM (GMT -7)   
hi robert,
 
i haven't gotten excepted yet for Social Security. It
is my first time trying for it. My chances do look real
good since they already had me see one of there
doctors. I will keep you updated and let you know
my turn out.
Stay strong and don't give up.
Donna (big hug) for luck :-)
~~~ Donna
UC Since 1987
 
Live life as it comes....


Wotan
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   Posted 8/4/2005 11:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Donna---How long was it (in months)---from when you first applied---until you heard from them (ie--asking you to see one of their Drs.??)----I'm very curious. Woman at SS here said--to wait between 4 to 6 months! Please--get back asap. Robert

JOVIGIRL71
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   Posted 8/4/2005 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Robert.
I got the application in the mail In April then they called me once
they got the info. I will say end of May she called to ask me a
bunch of questions. Then she said at least 4 more months till
they make a decision. I was surprised they were sending me
to one of there doctor's on my first try of appling for ss.
Donna
~~~ Donna
UC Since 1987
 
Live life as it comes....


Having2LeftFeet
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   Posted 8/5/2005 3:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Robert,
I forgot to mention that it would be good to go to www.ssi.gov or go to "Ask Jeeves.com and enter "collecting disability and outlines. Or, you could just go to www,socialsecuritybenefits.gov. Let me know.
 
"Lefty"
There is no such word as can't. Can't simply means wouln't. Grab as much as life as you can. Future is a long way away for those who don't believe. Don't build a foundation of life on sand. It will take it away with the tide. Love a little more, be unkind a lot less.


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   Posted 8/5/2005 4:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Robert,

I am 52 yrs old with depression and crohns disease. I have other problems associates with cd/ At my gi's recom I quit working 10-03 and then in Feb 04 I applied for SSD. I knew you had to be out 6 months to file this is why the gap in time.

On my forms I was very honest abou both of my onditions and things I was no longer able to do. I was specific. I provided most of m medical records plus I had a contact person that I updated my medical statis w/who obtained current medical from drs.

I ws sent for psych eval by one of their drs, what a crock, it was so funny. The guy may have spent 5 minutes with me, asked me a few questions. Then he asked things like did I no get out of bed some days & get dressed due to depression, in fact his leading questions I think nailed the depression I was having.

I was awarded my benefits on my 1st try, I did not have to hire an atty. Also, when a hearing is scheduled, you are allowed to go to the SS office and review your medical records in their file to make sure the file is complete.

Keep fighting and hang in there. Susie


Wotan
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   Posted 9/10/2005 6:41 AM (GMT -7)   
  Hi Susie---Thanks for response.  I'm 59 yrs old----so, i have that in my favor.   Quick question----how long from time their Dr. interviewed you--till you got approved??  Or....did he tell you right there?     Please---if you can---you can e-mail me privately.     I just talked w my adjudicator on Thurs.---She said as soon as my pdoc & therapist send in their reports----i'll have to see one of their Drs.   But, thanks again----Robert

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   Posted 8/2/2006 5:44 AM (GMT -7)   

I tried to claim disability but got turned down sad

Wishing you all the very best :-)


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   Posted 8/2/2006 8:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Elisha I have left you a post in mod forum ....Wotan posted this last fall as it starts out I was talking to him and he never posted today not this anywyas lol.........Computer glich ..........Take care hun ........be well .......
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   Posted 8/3/2006 2:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Lyn thank you...you are heaven sent for sure tongue
 
Forum Members:  This thead is an old one from last year and I believe that the issues have been resolved to date.  For some reason there must of been a computer problem as Lyn mentioned and it reset the dates on the previous posts.  Thank you ~ Elisha

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Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/3/2006 3:03 AM (GMT -7)   
NO prob sis ...Luvs ya
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Wotan
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   Posted 8/3/2006 5:42 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Lyn ,

   To all--my original post was last August-computer glich had it go up as tho i just posted.   Anyway--I had applied past Sept (2005)- & was APPROVED for SSD this past March.     Just to let you all know---Thank you, Lyn--Regards, Robert

 

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